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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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#31801
Chief Commander

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Well, they want people to get excited about the Extended Cut. If they were to just debunk the IT now no one would be bothered to play it to find out.

#31802
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Tiax Rules All wrote...

Tsuarn wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

so...basically, play the DLC to find out what's going on.....


bioware debunked the theory guys. you heard it first


no they didnt. They didnt comment on it.

Dont know what you are watching -_-

dude.. its time to let it go. i know it hurts. I feel it too but its over.


Isn't over until we say it's over.

#31803
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IronSabbath88 wrote...

No comment basically amounts to "Can't talk about that."

Notice how fast they got off the topic?

xD


Yup. Suspicious. Cannot talk about subject matter of fan theory. Reason? Don't want to debunk? Wording suggests either positive or negative answer. Cannot be taken one way or another. Must aquire further analysis.

Modifié par Domanese, 06 avril 2012 - 09:26 .


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IronSabbath88

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Oh look, we just lost a bunch more IT people for vague responses.

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yagaelvin

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njfluffy19 wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

so...basically, play the DLC to find out what's going on.....


bioware debunked the theory guys. you heard it first


they didn't debunk anything

like I just said, they basically stated to play the DLC to find out


Dude, the "um" says it all. Read it again.

"The indoctrination theory illustrates again how,
um, committed the fanbase is
..." don't want to comment either way.
Don't want to be prescriprive -- fans interpret their own way, plus DLC
coming. "We want the content to speak for itself, and we'll let it do
so"

... They're basically saying we're all crazy for clinging to that hope.


once again, all they said was they weren't going to comment about the IT more and to play the DLC to find out what's going on....

I never said they confirmed it either.....

#31806
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Cross429 wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

"The indoctrination theory illustrates again how, um, committed the fanbase is..." don't want to comment either way. Don't want to be prescriprive -- fans interpret their own way, plus DLC coming. "We want the content to speak for itself, and we'll let it do so"

that doesnt sound good


Folks: let's be honest here. That's not good.

IT, "um," demonstrating "the commitment of the fanbase" is a comment in it of itself, and we know it. He basically just said that it is an invention of passionate fans, free to interpret the game any way they'd like.

If the "extended cut" were going to incorporate IT, then the only answer to that question would be "wait and see." Instead he tells us that he doesn't want to prescribe an interpretation.

Bottom line: he doesn't want to tell us IT is "wrong," but it pretty clearly wasn't intended.

Damn.


100% agree. It's over guys.

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Domanese wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

"The indoctrination theory illustrates again how, um, committed the fanbase is..." don't want to comment either way. Don't want to be prescriprive -- fans interpret their own way, plus DLC coming. "We want the content to speak for itself, and we'll let it do so"

that doesnt sound good


That or they are "oh crap they're onto us." It's still a vague wording and it looks like they are trying to hide something. Might just be me seeing things when theres none to be found but Im told Im chronically optimisitic


it was more the "Um" part makes it sound like he was trying to word in so as not to cause offence....... well the voice i red it in sounded like that alteast Posted Image

#31808
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Was hoping for bioware to finally put it to rest, but alas, they're keeping it opening. This line however, damns it some bit:

"The indoctrination theory illustrates again how,
um, committed the fanbase is."

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Cross429 wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

plus DLC coming. "We want the content to speak for itself, and we'll let it do so"


If the "extended cut" were going to incorporate IT, then the only answer to that question would be "wait and see."


Thats almost literally what he said.

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IronSabbath88

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Bah, good riddance then.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

Oh look, we just lost a bunch more IT people for vague responses.


Exactly!  I won't quit.  I.  WILL.  HOLD.  THE.  LINE!  WHO'S WITH ME?!

Edit: Literally, who's with me?  I want to know who I will be talking to for the next two months.

Modifié par Dwailing, 06 avril 2012 - 09:28 .


#31812
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Well there you go... The IT is dead...  I didn't expect that...

After so many weeks, just felt like the only logical way to explain the bad ending.  Now I feel stupid...

#31813
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Why wouldn't they just close the door on Indoctrination Theory? They must be planning something with it, they would string us out like this unless they want a ****storm.

#31814
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IT is like religion, even with evidence that says otherwise, people still cling blindly to it..

#31815
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so what that IT answer said to me was

we made the ending as open and ambigious as possible so everyone can make of it what they want, which backfired horribly and now have to try and salvage what we can

so every theory is right and wrong at the same time as there doesn't seem to be a definitive ending because all they wanted was for everyone to have their own ending (or headcanon)

so guess what, we are right and wrong at the same time, atleast that what i make of all their comments up until now

#31816
Falloutwarfare

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"Designed Eve to represent the other face of the Krogan, that they could be worth saving"

anyone else read this with mordin's voice?

#31817
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no need to get all dramatic lol

#31818
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Okay, I hate that it has come to this, and I hate even more to actually do this, but...

How much actual information have we gotten since this thread started?

Now it's important that none of you get me wrong, I'm not saying the thread is pointless or anything, as a matter of fact, on the contrary - it has many people's hopes up, including mine.

What I'm saying is, even after this PAX thing, I'm as much in the dark as I was when I finished the game a couple of days after it was released.

So, to reiterate:
How much actual information have we gotten since this thread started?

EDIT: I may be a bit drunk, I just remembered that there was that announcement of the Truth/Closure DLC. But... pretty much all of us expected at least that, right?

Modifié par Mr. Mistake, 06 avril 2012 - 09:30 .


#31819
MassEffectFan11

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No, no, I refuse to accept it. Until they officially deny it, I will not accept it! HOLD THE LINE, DAMN IT! Have some motivational space music!



#31820
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OK here is Bioware statement explaination on IT

IT was Made up by fans - we let them belie in whatever they want as long as they pay for our game.

#31821
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I've had it with Bioware's snide insinuations!!!!!!!!!

#31822
Sovereign Skyguardian

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We need hope.
Without hope, we might as well be machines.

Hold the f'ing line!

#31823
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Dwailing wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Oh look, we just lost a bunch more IT people for vague responses.


Exactly!  I won't quit.  I.  WILL.  HOLD.  THE.  LINE!  WHO'S WITH ME?!

Edit: Literally, who's with me?  I want to know who I will be talking to for the next two months.

i've been here since page 17, im not goin anywhere fast:lol:

#31824
Blind Rapture

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It's sad because this Genophage discussion shows how good their writers really are. Everything they are discussing is exactly how I felt going through it and I thought it was incredibly well orchestrated.

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MassEffectFan11 wrote...

No, no, I refuse to accept it. Until they officially deny it, I will not accept it! HOLD THE LINE, DAMN IT! Have some motivational space music!


WOOT!  There's one!  Now who else will Hold the Line with me?!