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[Simon_Says]

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

[Sovereign Skyguardian]

byne wrote...
Also editing it would have ruined the artistic integrity of my comment.

Made my day XD

[Tiax Rules All]

crimsontotem wrote...

ok... so OP byne, what is our stance after PAX

IT.. to big to fail?

[masster blaster]

You now what's funny during the Bioware Pax for Mass Effect one of the five people said something about the Citidle having places that can let people hid/survive an explosion on the Citdle. Well how come Shepard survived the Citidle explosion at the end of Destroy, Did Shepard get into one of them? NO SHEPARD DID NOT. He, or she supposedly died at the end of the three endings and you mean to tell me that Shepard got into one of them. NO just NO. Shepard could not have just got into one of the pods and magically survived the explosion. Just like how your crew at the end just appeared on the Normandy when all of them where on Earth F***** fighting every last god damm Reapers to the Death.

[MassEffectFan11]

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

It's awesome how there's more proof that IT is true than there is that taking it as face value could actually happen.

[crimsontotem]

so today at PAX.... they didn't even confirmed or denied the IT theory. speculation and speculation...

[Skillz1986]

" Yep, take the renegade choice "We were still on board" 
I think and then it's an interrupt" Sorry, don't get it. As i said, right now IT is the inly way for me to make sense to all this. so i'm going with it, until the dlc proves otherwise. if any of the it haters has a better idea to make sense..let me stress this again SENSE...to the endings we have now. i'll gladly roll with you idea too.

[byne]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...

ok... so OP byne, what is our stance after PAX

IT.. to big to fail?

You are not OP Byne! Silly hypnotoad.

Anyhow, my stance hasnt changed. Vague non-answers giving no information we didnt already have hasnt swayed me in either direction.

You make your own decision.

[yagaelvin]

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

Do you know what the biggest thing against IT truthfully?  It hasn't been confirmed.  Just remember that basically ALL we have for it is just speciulation

[mufasa121]

byne wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...

ok... so OP byne, what is our stance after PAX

IT.. to big to fail?

Anyhow, my stance hasnt changed. Vague non-answers giving no information we didnt already have hasnt swayed me in either direction.

You make your own decision.

^^ this.

[schneeland]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

From now on, anyone who tries to display negativity in here will be offered a straw to grasp.

Think of it as a gift from me to you. xD

Yay, straws for everybody! Can I have one without being negative or do I have to make up something ridiculous before?

[Dwailing]

yagaelvin wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

Do you know what the biggest thing against IT truthfully?  It hasn't been confirmed.  Just remember that basically ALL we have for it is just speciulation

Yeah, that is the biggest piece of "evidence" against IT.  It really isn't that good, to be honest.

[Simon_Says]

You know. This raging about artistic integrity reminds me about Star Wars. About George Lucas' neverending campaign to edit the series left and right. People agree that what George Lucas keeps doing is wrong. So why should Bioware edit Mass Effect?

Greedo shooting was stupid. Darth Vader's cry of "No!" when Palpatine tortures Luke is stupid. Similarly, Starbrat's explanation of the reaper cycle's purpose is stupid and nonsensical. So is Normandy's unnecessary escape.

Artistic integrity or creator control is not the point. Stupid storytelling is the point. People hate stupid stories. And the reader/viewer/player whatever has a right to be angry and demand that the stories they are told be not stupid. To tell someone a stupid story is an insult.

[emagover]

i just can't believe it. and they tell us to wait until summer for some "clarifying" DLC! what a BS!

they say people could survive on the citadel, wtf? there were goddamn explosions everywhere on its arms, it fell apart and f**kin' exploded! >_<

[Skillz1986]

" Yep, take the renegade choice "We were still on board"  I think and then it's an interrupt"

Sorry, don't get it. As i said, right now IT is the inly way for me to make sense to all this. so i'm going with it, until the dlc proves otherwise. if any of the it haters has a better idea to make sense..let me stress this again SENSE...to the endings we have now. i'll gladly roll with your idea too.

Sorry for accidental repetition posts, still phone issues.

[Jenonax]

Did anyone else find it interesting that in a set of questions so fluffy and obviously pre-screened that one of the only specific ending related topics the was aired was the IT? Neither debunked or confirmed. Don't know which way it will swing, but just found it intriguing that it came up at all.

[EpyonX3]

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

Bioware for one. plus a few other videos point out major flaws like this one



I'm amazed at how you guys can find "hidden meanings" in a game which aren't there but can't tell when a developer is telling you no without hurting your feelings.

You think that when he metioned how "commited" the base is was a complement?

[masster blaster]

And if Bioware want's to now why a lot of people are still ****** tell them to F****** start reading the forms at Social Bioware, and get of the whole IT and what fans want bull crap and start showing some results.

I really like Bioware, but there is a time when you F**** up and when you really F****** up.

[Shooter__Andy]

schneeland wrote...

Yes and no. I don't think they realised how bad an ambiguous ending fits to their series. And no, I think the DLC might still have something good in it. I'd be fine with it if it allows to be interpreted within the IT.

In general, my internal rating of Bioware games has already dropped from AA+ (pre-order or buy within the first two weeks) to BB (wait a serious amount of time to judge quality, potentially wait for GotY-edition). The DLC will determine whether it drops further to D ("jump, you ****ers!")

Yeah. I kinda hope they will make sense of this convoluted mess, but on the other hand the only way I can see them doing that is with a lot of unsatisfying and ultimately pointless handwaving.
"Why doesn't Reapers' motivation make any sense?" - "Well, they're wrong/incomprehensible/insane"
"How did Shepard survive in Destroy ending?" -- "Catalyst teleported him/her to Earth because he was nice like that"
"Where is Normandy?" -- "The wave of space magic caught in the process of FTL drive to the Charon relay and threw them on some planet you can't reach now. Use QEC to talk with them for 30 seconds before quitting the game."

Etc.

[yagaelvin]

Dwailing wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

Do you know what the biggest thing against IT truthfully?  It hasn't been confirmed.  Just remember that basically ALL we have for it is just speciulation

Yeah, that is the biggest piece of "evidence" against IT.  It really isn't that good, to be honest.

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

[CLB17]

yagaelvin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

Do you know what the biggest thing against IT truthfully?  It hasn't been confirmed.  Just remember that basically ALL we have for it is just speciulation

Yeah, that is the biggest piece of "evidence" against IT.  It really isn't that good, to be honest.

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

[Simon_Says]

CLB17 wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

Do you know what the biggest thing against IT truthfully?  It hasn't been confirmed.  Just remember that basically ALL we have for it is just speciulation

Yeah, that is the biggest piece of "evidence" against IT.  It really isn't that good, to be honest.

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Nonconfirmation is not the same as confirmation or denial. Jsyk.

[Eshaye]

yagaelvin wrote...

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Feel free to think whatever you like but trying to be condescending to others isn't really helping your case. ".... then you think" my arse. 

:innocent:

So basically what I take from the last two days is we are free to think whatever we like. Yay!! Seems like a victory to me. Bioware just adores those fan tears and our inner forums wars. Thanks for all the fuel BW. 

Modifié par Eshaye, 06 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[Dwailing]

yagaelvin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

CLB17 wrote...

@EpyonX3

Please present all your overwhelming evidence that disproves the IT.

I'm actually trying myself, just to put IT to the test.

Best I can come up so far are:

"Bioware can still bungle things up." (Demonstrated with DA2, which I honestly didn't think was nearly as bad as many people say it was.)
"The ending cinematics about the mass relay network's destruction and the Normandy's escape are in third person." (and the latter is still completely nonsensical)

Do you know what the biggest thing against IT truthfully?  It hasn't been confirmed.  Just remember that basically ALL we have for it is just speciulation

Yeah, that is the biggest piece of "evidence" against IT.  It really isn't that good, to be honest.

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Thing is, by that argument, you could say that the fact that it hasn't been DENIED also counts as evidence in FAVOR of IT.  They cancel each other out.  The only evidence that I think could honestly be considered would be evidence found ingame.  And all the ingame evidence is pointing to IT.