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[lex0r11]

[CLB17]

Sorry for the double post.

[steve3194]

I wonder what point of the summer we'll get this DLC

One month's time?
Three month's time?!?

[yagaelvin]

Eshaye wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Feel free to think whatever you like but trying to be condescending to others isn't really helping your case. ".... then you think" my arse. 

:innocent:

Um, that wasn't directed to you.  Notice who I quoted.....

[CLB17]

Knowing the way the world works its coming out in late August lol.

[Arashi08]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

byne wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

well, no IT then no reason to hang in the forums till summer. This DLC is gonna blow. at least its free so Bioware can cover their asses and make fun of people who still complain

damn im pissed.

If you lose all hope because of a vague answer and yesterday's DLC announcement which didnt say anything we hadnt already known for weeks, I'd venture a guess and say your faith in IT wasnt very strong to begin with.

THERE IS NO HOPE!.

dont you think I want IT to be true. they just told you no, and you cant see it. I was like you till yesterday. Its over. Hope will only ****** you off more when summer comes around and you realise its not IT its not a dream, its just **** writing with more **** writing on top to cover it... no good

Everyone else's ability to hold onto their hope disproves your assertions.  not to mention they didn't flat out say no to IT otherwise there wouldn't be ppl here still stating their case for it.

personally, I'd rather hold onto hope until the summer and be disappointed than wallow in disappointment and depression now only to be possibly renewed in the summer.  Hope is the defining characteristic that allows humans to overcome difficult periods.  I don't care if I'm disappointed, the IT thread was alot of fun and it got me thinking about alot of the things in the game that didn't make sense.  it was a fun ride, regardless of the outcome

As a certain evil wolf thing once said "people without hopes and dreams, are easy to control."   you can do and believe whatever you want, but I'd rather keep my hope and be fooled than break at ambiguous statements.  don't try to drag us down to how you feel just because you feel that way.

[Simon_Says]

steve3194 wrote...

I wonder what point of the summer we'll get this DLC

One month's time?
Three month's time?!?

If it happens to fall on my birthday and it actually solves all the problems I have with it, I may just be the one sending Bioware a cake...

[Eshaye]

yagaelvin wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Feel free to think whatever you like but trying to be condescending to others isn't really helping your case. ".... then you think" my arse. 

:innocent:

Um, that wasn't directed to you.  Notice who I quoted.....

Does it matter? Since I think the same as the person you quoted I feel targeted as well. What's really been confirmed is that speculation and fan theories are WELCOMED. 

The end. 

[Dwailing]

lex0r11 wrote...

Agreed.

[yagaelvin]

Dwailing wrote...

Thing is, by that argument, you could say that the fact that it hasn't been DENIED also counts as evidence in FAVOR of IT.  They cancel each other out.  The only evidence that I think could honestly be considered would be evidence found ingame.  And all the ingame evidence is pointing to IT.

That's true as well,  As much as I like IT and all, we still have just speculation on our side

[balance5050]

They wanted speculation, if you take the endings at face value then you're not speculating. If you decide to go down the rabbit hole and speculate on "everything" however, lots of people end up at I.T..

I'm gonna need to play some multi-player soon...

[Simon_Says]

yagaelvin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Thing is, by that argument, you could say that the fact that it hasn't been DENIED also counts as evidence in FAVOR of IT.  They cancel each other out.  The only evidence that I think could honestly be considered would be evidence found ingame.  And all the ingame evidence is pointing to IT.

That's true as well,  As much as I like IT and all, we still have just speculation on our side

Speculation and reams and reams of evidence from not only with Mass Effect 3 itself, but the series as a whole and from tie-in novels that as far as I understand are still considered canon.

The specific interpretations of evidence could be under question but the fact remains: We have an idea of what happened, and we can actually explain why.

[Dwailing]

yagaelvin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Thing is, by that argument, you could say that the fact that it hasn't been DENIED also counts as evidence in FAVOR of IT.  They cancel each other out.  The only evidence that I think could honestly be considered would be evidence found ingame.  And all the ingame evidence is pointing to IT.

That's true as well,  As much as I like IT and all, we still have just speculation on our side

Fair point.  Until we actually SEE the DLC or Bioware says one way or the other that is all we have.  However, if you ask me, I view IT as true until stated otherwise simply because of the evidence on our side.

[yagaelvin]

Eshaye wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Feel free to think whatever you like but trying to be condescending to others isn't really helping your case. ".... then you think" my arse. 

:innocent:

Um, that wasn't directed to you.  Notice who I quoted.....

Does it matter? Since I think the same as the person you quoted I feel targeted as well. What's really been confirmed is that speculation and fan theories are WELCOMED. 

The end. 

Oh, for the love of....

I was stating that one of the main issues with IT is that nothing has been confirmed toward it and that was a very valid point.  Someone then said that the lack of confirmation wasn't a very strong point.  I said it actually WAS.  I was actually agreeing with you there.

[CLB17]

balance5050 wrote...

They wanted speculation, if you take the endings at face value then you're not speculating. If you decide to go down the rabbit hole and speculate on "everything" however, lots of people end up at I.T..I'm
gonna need to play some multi-player soon...

Agree

[steve3194]

CLB17 wrote...

Knowing the way the world works its coming out in late August lol.

Don't say that:(

It's been long enough already.
We better at least get more details between this and release

[schneeland]

Shooter__Andy wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Yes and no. I don't think they realised how bad an ambiguous ending fits to their series. And no, I think the DLC might still have something good in it. I'd be fine with it if it allows to be interpreted within the IT.

In general, my internal rating of Bioware games has already dropped from AA+ (pre-order or buy within the first two weeks) to BB (wait a serious amount of time to judge quality, potentially wait for GotY-edition). The DLC will determine whether it drops further to D ("jump, you ****ers!")

Yeah. I kinda hope they will make sense of this convoluted mess, but on the other hand the only way I can see them doing that is with a lot of unsatisfying and ultimately pointless handwaving.
"Why doesn't Reapers' motivation make any sense?" - "Well, they're wrong/incomprehensible/insane"
"How did Shepard survive in Destroy ending?" -- "Catalyst teleported him/her to Earth because he was nice like that"
"Where is Normandy?" -- "The wave of space magic caught in the process of FTL drive to the Charon relay and threw them on some planet you can't reach now. Use QEC to talk with them for 30 seconds before quitting the game."

Etc.

Could happen that way. My current, purely speculative thought on this is:

• our decision during the indoc sequence will have real consequences, but it will never be definitive whether it really was indoc or not
• we end up somewhere near the beam - while this will require more explenation, I think they will somehow manage to do it with only minor amounts of space magic involved
• depending on our decisions we will or will not see our crew again - it's still unclear to me whether this will only happen via QEC or in person

Biggest issue: I have absolutely now idea how they address the nonsense-escape of the Normandy.

[Dwailing]

yagaelvin wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

Actually, it's stronger than you think.  Nevertheless, it's still only ONE thing

Feel free to think whatever you like but trying to be condescending to others isn't really helping your case. ".... then you think" my arse. 

:innocent:

Um, that wasn't directed to you.  Notice who I quoted.....

Does it matter? Since I think the same as the person you quoted I feel targeted as well. What's really been confirmed is that speculation and fan theories are WELCOMED. 

The end. 

Oh, for the love of....

I was stating that one of the main issues with IT is that nothing has been confirmed toward it and that was a very valid point.  Someone then said that the lack of confirmation wasn't a very strong point.  I said it actually WAS.  I was actually agreeing with you there.

OK, break it up.  This is my discussion with yagaelvin. 

[crimsontotem]

byne wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...

ok... so OP byne, what is our stance after PAX

IT.. to big to fail?

You are not OP Byne! Silly hypnotoad.

Anyhow, my stance hasnt changed. Vague non-answers giving no information we didnt already have hasnt swayed me in either direction.

You make your own decision.

my thought exactly. it was as if they wanted to avoid the question and commented very vaguely. Theysimply brused aside... I think there is still hope for IT theory. "Content to speak for itself". Interesting quote... 

[magica87]

Can someone explain to me the latest news? (in simple terms if possible English is not my language)
I apologize! But I thank you!

[crimsontotem]

magica87 wrote...

Can someone explain to me the latest news? (in simple terms if possible English is not my language)
I apologize! But I thank you!

basically about IT theory, developers commented very vaguely and neither confirmed nor denied it. 

[Skillz1986]

As i said, i am holding on to IT, since right now is is the only thing that makes sense to me. if any of yku guys can come up with another idea that makes SENSE (once again stressing it as much as i can). feel free. disproving a theory is not hard. coming up with something as good..is a whole different thing EPYON. "this is a mystery..one that bioware has to explain"...really? How about you do...as the creator of the "indoctrination theory-a closer look" video (i assume). Sure it's bioware's kob. but as i said...disproving a theory is in fact not a problem.

[yagaelvin]

Lol, I'm done with it anyway. Like I said, I like IT and all but I've been rather cautious on just how far I'll go with my optimism. I said this many, many pages ago but the only thing that was keeping me from losing faith was the fact that people were tweeting about something coming up. Now that we know something is, we'll just have to wait and see what it is before we make a final decision.

Modifié par yagaelvin, 06 avril 2012 - 10:44 .

[schneeland]

magica87 wrote...

Can someone explain to me the latest news? (in simple terms if possible English is not my language)
I apologize! But I thank you!

That's easy - basically they said nothing .
A question about IT was addressed with a vague statement that neither proved nor disproved it.
A question about gameplay in the ending DLC was answered with a statement that they don't have gameplay yet, but may consider it in the future.

Modifié par schneeland, 06 avril 2012 - 10:44 .

[Mack0438]

Asked and answered on PAX:


"IF you could throw one character other than Shep into the synthesis ending, who would it be?"

Marauder shields! Also Conrad [verner]. "He deserves it."

Didnt i get it right or sounds that like a bad ending ?

I mean, that Synthesis is a bad ending ?

That would maybe mean, that there is a new hope that IT is right.

Furthermore i found this:
(Someone on PAX asked it)

Q:What about the indoctrination theory?

A:"The indoctrination theory illustrates again how, um, committed the fanbase is..." don't want to comment either way. Don't want to be prescriprive -- fans interpret their own way, plus DLC coming. "We want he content to speak for itself, and we'll let it do so"

(Video of the answer: http://yfrog.com/0jm0vdz)

Modifié par Mack0438, 06 avril 2012 - 10:47 .