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[Simon_Says]

I wonder what the actual business/legal/cultural ramifications would be if Bioware actually decided to implement IT in some manner to the EC dlc.

[wheelierdan]

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

[yagaelvin]

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

Someone asked the question so they just answered it

[greggm2000]

schneeland wrote...

magica87 wrote...

Can someone explain to me the latest news? (in simple terms if possible English is not my language)
I apologize! But I thank you!

That's easy - basically they said nothing .
A question about IT was addressed with a vague statement that neither proved nor disproved it.
A question about gameplay in the ending DLC was answered with a statement that they don't have gameplay yet, but may consider it in the future.

I think it's a little more nuanced than that. They refused to state one way or the other, which means that IT *may* be true, just like it might not be true.

My take is that they themselves probably haven't decided how to handle the ending, and this buys them some time to figure it out. It could even be that they're waiting to see how the fans react now that this event has happened, before deciding.

Either way, we'll have to wait until sometime this summer to know for sure... and maybe we won't find out even then.

Modifié par greggm2000, 06 avril 2012 - 10:48 .

[Mack0438]

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

That was only about the moving of the citadel to earth.

[AdmiralsJack]

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

they just say that people (f. e. Aria or Bailey) could survive when the reapers moved the citadel towards the earth. that nether confirms nor disproved IT

[Simon_Says]

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

And here is where the IT theorists say that becuase nothing actually happened on the Citadel, that those folks still live.

That's probably the biggest flaw of IT. It's like String Theory, it's so flexible and based on so many unknowns that it's easy to predict anything and everything with it.

[waldstr18]

what? they really didnt say anything like "ending is real" or "ending is indoctrination?

[davishepard]

The Prothean VI at Illos, Javik and Vendetta disproves IT, but people rather believe in this ridiculous theory anyway instead of face the reality.

[savagejuicebox]

Here is a theory of my own; What if they did intend on making an expansion to the ending all along, but all of this negative feedback about the game not being finished and it was a horrible ending and what not, caused them to re-access their original plan. So what they are now doing is saying that they are taking fan feedback to save face and saying it was never intended so the people who thought they got an incomplete game will be happy, those who didn't like the end can also be happy, and Bioware/EA comes out smelling like roses giving away DLC and implementing player feedback. THEY WILL NEVER CONFIRM OR DENY IT WAS INTENDED but if IT comes out and is the expanded ending then everyone will get what they want(well almost anybody).

Thoughts? I honestly think what they are doing is genius if im right.

Shameless bump: again

[byne]

Simon_Says wrote...

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

And here is where the IT theorists say that becuase nothing actually happened on the Citadel, that those folks still live.

That's probably the biggest flaw of IT. It's like String Theory, it's so flexible and based on so many unknowns that it's easy to predict anything and everything with it.

Either way the Citadel still got taken over by the Reapers and moved to Earth. Even if IT is true lots of them are dead anyways.

[Blubox]

(2nd time) Ok, here is something i didnt understand.

"Q: "IF you could throw one character other than Shep into the synthesis ending, who would it be?" A: Marauder shields! Also Conrad [verner]. "He deserves it." "

Why would they throw Marauder Shields or Conrad into the beam? I thought only shepard was able to do that.

Could someone please answer this? I have about 324 questions and this is one of them. Yesterday I "only" had 315. Please make it one question less.

[magica87]

crimsontotem wrote...

magica87 wrote...

Can someone explain to me the latest news? (in simple terms if possible English is not my language)
I apologize! But I thank you!

basically about IT theory, developers commented very vaguely and neither confirmed nor denied it. 

wow...thank you!
I imagine that the feelings are not so good ... and still clamor for the PAX and then does not actually say anything ... I think that they make fun of all of us....I'm disappointed...

[Simon_Says]

waldstr18 wrote...

what? they really didnt say anything like "ending is real" or "ending is indoctrination?

They wouldn't. Makes no business sense to reveal it all now when the DLC is still months away.

[Crazyjeffy]

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

I could be wrong, but that might've been about the citadel being moved by the reapers (which happened during the Cerb HQ mission) meaning before priority: earth starts

[Eshaye]

Dwailing wrote...

OK, break it up.  This is my discussion with yagaelvin. 

Fiiiine.


I take exception to the 'just' speculation comment though, if you make a vague ending with disconcerting outcomes in a dream like state and say that you welcome speculation, then I'm sorry but any speculation an theory is a valid one. Apparently Bioware's intention or Casey's was to have us think about it and discuss it; mission accomplished. 

Is there really a point in proving or debunking anything at this point?  I bet you all a truck load of cornflakes that this DLC isn't going to change anything about the IT theory at all. 

Modifié par Eshaye, 06 avril 2012 - 10:56 .

[byne]

davishepard wrote...

The Prothean VI at Illos, Javik and Vendetta disproves IT, but people rather believe in this ridiculous theory anyway instead of face the reality.

Oh look, its this argument again.

Does someone want to take over explaining this one for me? I tire of doing so.

[yagaelvin]

byne wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

And here is where the IT theorists say that becuase nothing actually happened on the Citadel, that those folks still live.

That's probably the biggest flaw of IT. It's like String Theory, it's so flexible and based on so many unknowns that it's easy to predict anything and everything with it.

Either way the Citadel still got taken over by the Reapers and moved to Earth. Even if IT is true lots of them are dead anyways.

Oh yeah, that's right.  Even with the IT, the Citadel is still taken over by the Reapers and taken to Earth so it's still a legitimate question

Modifié par yagaelvin, 06 avril 2012 - 10:53 .

[Dwailing]

waldstr18 wrote...

what? they really didnt say anything like "ending is real" or "ending is indoctrination?

Hello again, waldstr18.  No, they didn't say anything.  Each of us still has to wait to rub whatever ends up being true in the other's face. 

[Skillz1986]

As i said, i am holding on to IT, since right now is is the only thing that makes sense to me. if any of yku guys can come up with another idea that makes SENSE (once again stressing it as much as i can). feel free. disproving a theory is not hard. coming up with something as good..is a whole different thing EPYON. "this is a mystery..one that bioware has to explain"...really? How about you do...as the creator of the "indoctrination theory-a closer look" video (i assume). Sure it's bioware's kob. but as i said...disproving a theory is in fact not a problem.

[schneeland]

savagejuicebox wrote...

Here is a theory of my own; What if they did intend on making an expansion to the ending all along, but all of this negative feedback about the game not being finished and it was a horrible ending and what not, caused them to re-access their original plan. So what they are now doing is saying that they are taking fan feedback to save face and saying it was never intended so the people who thought they got an incomplete game will be happy, those who didn't like the end can also be happy, and Bioware/EA comes out smelling like roses giving away DLC and implementing player feedback. THEY WILL NEVER CONFIRM OR DENY IT WAS INTENDED but if IT comes out and is the expanded ending then everyone will get what they want(well almost anybody).

Thoughts? I honestly think what they are doing is genius if im right.

Shameless bump: again

I find the first part reasonable, but I don't agree on the conclusion, i.e. I don't think they are acting like genius, but rather they run about like headless chicken.

[Simon_Says]

byne wrote...

davishepard wrote...

The Prothean VI at Illos, Javik and Vendetta disproves IT, but people rather believe in this ridiculous theory anyway instead of face the reality.

Oh look, its this argument again.

Does someone want to take over explaining this one for me? I tire of doing so.

Probably by how they don't detect indoctrination in Shepard's psyche. It's a weak argument. We don't know what the threshold level of detection is, and VIs have proven to be fallible.

[zergi]

HOLD THE LINE

[masster blaster]

Look I don't know what's Bioware up to but I think that the ending at the end was the real end. I mean Bioware was surprised about the backlash they received (why the kind of deserved) and now they said there will be a expansion of the ending in the summer time. I think that they did not want to do this, but on the other hand the once's on twitter like Jessica and more are kind of supporting IT. So I have know clue on what's going to happen, but this will be the end for Bioware if they fail to deliver, or it could make them the Gods of Video games every born.

[Lyria]

AdmiralsJack wrote...

wheelierdan wrote...

legitimate question, doesnt the answer to hoe the people on the citaldel survived with the sealed compartments answer disprove IT?

Why would they talk about how those people lived if it didnt matter because it wasnt real?

they just say that people (f. e. Aria or Bailey) could survive when the reapers moved the citadel towards the earth. that nether confirms nor disproved IT

They survive until Shepard blows the Citadel the F*** up.