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noobcannon wrote...
Harorrd wrote...
i for once will imagine that Sheppard destroyed the reapers, and adopted a child and built a house with Tali and they lived happily ever after
^this
Mr. Mistake wrote...
Tell me if you think everything really culminates so much that _there's simply no room for some kind of post-game DLC_. // our belief is that it doesn't culminate leaving room for post-end DLC
I'm trying to see it, but I honestly can't. How do you guys think the DLC will be integrated into what we have now? // After the breathing plate scene back on Earth
rogueagent6 wrote...
Holy wow! This thread is still going. Anyways I had a couple things to add. Decided to play some MP today to get my readiness to 80%, and my EMS to 5100. Restarted just after horizon so I could get the Shepard lives ending, but also changed out one of the members of my squad to see what would happen when Normandy crashes.
1. The Squad members you take with you in the final push to the beam don't seem to have any bearing on the sequence when Normandy crashes. On my initial play through I had James and Liara with me. On my replay I swapped Liara for Jalik. On both runs, Joker, Liara, and James step off the Normandy.
2. Why would there be convenient handles waiting for you to grab them, giving you control of the reapers? And why would shooting the conduit be the path to destroying the reapers? That would be akin to using a sledge hammer to drive a square peg into a round hole. The only way it fits is if it was meant to be symbolic only, which goes back to it being a hallucination.
3. I think the Stargazer at the end is more of a nod to Carl Sagan, who likely would have been a huge fan of the series.
Anyways, if it's already been said then ohh well. If not, here's more food for thought.
Diggsworth wrote...
I spent the bulk of the day grinding out 100% Galactic Readiness only to have all of Aria's mercenaries/the Rachni bail on me, at which point I get lasered in the face by Harbinger.
I took a single hit from a significantly weaker Reaper on Rannoch and was incinerated.
So...what the hell just happened?
LenabotSE wrote...
If they're smart, they'll just make the Crucible house a supervirus that's been constructed by the Protheans and their predecessors. With a modified virus made by Cerberus that allows you to actually control them, for a renegade option.
But it's probably all wishful thinking. Head-canon, wee!
rogueagent6 wrote...
Holy wow! This thread is still going. Anyways I had a couple things to add. Decided to play some MP today to get my readiness to 80%, and my EMS to 5100. Restarted just after horizon so I could get the Shepard lives ending, but also changed out one of the members of my squad to see what would happen when Normandy crashes.
1. The Squad members you take with you in the final push to the beam don't seem to have any bearing on the sequence when Normandy crashes. On my initial play through I had James and Liara with me. On my replay I swapped Liara for Jalik. On both runs, Joker, Liara, and James step off the Normandy.
HunterKYA wrote...
The more I think about it, Shepard hallucinating seems increasingly plausible. Why else, if you have enough war assets, save Anderson, and choose the Destroy ending, would we see a body taking a breath in a pile of rubble? If Shepard had really been on the Citadel, there would've been no question about his/her death, and it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to accept that he/she died with that ending.
Harbinger had infiltrated Shepard's mind while the group was running towards the Conduit. Believing Shepard was on the verge of death, the AI took his/her consciousness to the Citadel, and used figures that Shepard could identify with, in Anderson and the Illusive Man. By striking down the Illusive Man, Shepard proved him/herself worthy to choose the fate of the galaxy. Once the choices of Control, Synthesis, and Destroy were presented to Shepard, he/she was faced with an insurmountably difficult decision. The AI warned him/her of the Destroy option, because of the synthetic devices implanted into Shepard by Cerberus, that he/she would die and likely kill all synthetic life (including EDI and the Geth), but there are subtle indicators with the AI's voice that strongly emphasizes not making this choice. However, after making the choice to Destroy, the influence of the AI, and in turn, the Reapers, has been severed permanently from Shepard's mind, allowing him/her to wake up in a pile of rubble back on Earth.
In my opinion, that's the only explanation as to why the Destroy option where the player sees the body (presumably Shepard) taking a breath at the end. Might not be well thought out, but it's what I've begun to believe inside of the last day.
Modifié par Bigdoser, 12 mars 2012 - 03:51 .
Modifié par John Never Dies, 12 mars 2012 - 03:50 .
lookingglassmind wrote...
rogueagent6 wrote...
Holy wow! This thread is still going. Anyways I had a couple things to add. Decided to play some MP today to get my readiness to 80%, and my EMS to 5100. Restarted just after horizon so I could get the Shepard lives ending, but also changed out one of the members of my squad to see what would happen when Normandy crashes.
1. The Squad members you take with you in the final push to the beam don't seem to have any bearing on the sequence when Normandy crashes. On my initial play through I had James and Liara with me. On my replay I swapped Liara for Jalik. On both runs, Joker, Liara, and James step off the Normandy.
I think we figured this out this morning. Who is on the Normandy after the Destroy ending is determined by:
1. Who your LI is (always steps out second)
2. Then who you have interacted with the most (always steps out third).
Modifié par oh_saki, 12 mars 2012 - 03:53 .
beatrix.kiddo.bride wrote...
I was just thinking this and figured I would share if with you all.
Some of you think that this is Harbinger trying to indoctrinate Shepard. But what if in the two endings where Shepard dies, s/he's just loosing the will to fight? In these endings, Shepard let's the reapers live, essentially giving up the fight, loosing the will to continue on. Shepard dies.
But if you choose the destroy option, Shepard wants to continue fighting, finish the mission. Shepard lives.
Just a thought I had while reading a lot of the posts.
This thread has really gotten my hopes up, I've even been able to start a second playthrough.
Johnnatan wrote...
Maybe he never left the cerberus station at all. Why does the game return you to the latest saved game instead of a moment later before FTL jumping to Earth?. I mean... it does not return you or load a saved games while on Earth at all. Think about it!
Kinda of making you feel that the attack on Earth never happened. at least not yet. How cerberus recovered the human reaper, when i destroyed the whole facility... reaper included??? It needs to be explained beacuse it doesnt make sense either.
That would explain why I didnt see all my ground forces attacking. just Allaince soldiers and myself.
Did you see any geth attacking? any rachni or any merc at all attacking? Just 2 sequences with a few alliens when rallying to the beam. And the bea, sequence felt empty... Funny thing how you didnt need to do anything at all to get to the beam... just run, without fight or without cover or nothing... just running like a robot.
Rather interesting...
Modifié par noobcannon, 12 mars 2012 - 03:56 .
noobcannon wrote...
rogueagent6 wrote...
Holy wow! This thread is still going. Anyways I had a couple things to add. Decided to play some MP today to get my readiness to 80%, and my EMS to 5100. Restarted just after horizon so I could get the Shepard lives ending, but also changed out one of the members of my squad to see what would happen when Normandy crashes.
1. The Squad members you take with you in the final push to the beam don't seem to have any bearing on the sequence when Normandy crashes. On my initial play through I had James and Liara with me. On my replay I swapped Liara for Jalik. On both runs, Joker, Liara, and James step off the Normandy.
2. Why would there be convenient handles waiting for you to grab them, giving you control of the reapers? And why would shooting the conduit be the path to destroying the reapers? That would be akin to using a sledge hammer to drive a square peg into a round hole. The only way it fits is if it was meant to be symbolic only, which goes back to it being a hallucination.
3. I think the Stargazer at the end is more of a nod to Carl Sagan, who likely would have been a huge fan of the series.
Anyways, if it's already been said then ohh well. If not, here's more food for thought.
one theory i saw floating around was that the people who step off the normandy are your LI, joker, and or whoever you talked to the most in the game. is that consistent with who stepped off in your game?
blooregard wrote...
beatrix.kiddo.bride wrote...
I was just thinking this and figured I would share if with you all.
Some of you think that this is Harbinger trying to indoctrinate Shepard. But what if in the two endings where Shepard dies, s/he's just loosing the will to fight? In these endings, Shepard let's the reapers live, essentially giving up the fight, loosing the will to continue on. Shepard dies.
But if you choose the destroy option, Shepard wants to continue fighting, finish the mission. Shepard lives.
Just a thought I had while reading a lot of the posts.
This thread has really gotten my hopes up, I've even been able to start a second playthrough.
do you also find it odd a super weapon meant do destroy the reapers would require you to shoot the control panel for it to work?
Modifié par noobcannon, 12 mars 2012 - 03:52 .
Adopt Jonas, that kid lost his mother and father in the span of six months to the gethHarorrd wrote...
i for once will imagine that Sheppard destroyed the reapers, and adopted a child and built a house with Tali and they lived happily ever after
HunterKYA wrote...
The more I think about it, Shepard hallucinating seems increasingly plausible. Why else, if you have enough war assets, save Anderson, and choose the Destroy ending, would we see a body taking a breath in a pile of rubble? If Shepard had really been on the Citadel, there would've been no question about his/her death, and it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to accept that he/she died with that ending.
Harbinger had infiltrated Shepard's mind while the group was running towards the Conduit. Believing Shepard was on the verge of death, the AI took his/her consciousness to the Citadel, and used figures that Shepard could identify with, in the forms of Anderson and the Illusive Man. By striking down the Illusive Man, Shepard proved him/herself worthy to decide the fate of the galaxy, since no organic in millions of years had gotten anywhere near as close as Shepard had.
Once the choices of Control, Synthesis, and Destroy were presented to Shepard, he/she was faced with an insurmountably difficult decision. The AI warned him/her of the Destroy option, because of the synthetic devices implanted into Shepard by Cerberus, that he/she would die and likely kill all synthetic life (including EDI and the Geth), but there are subtle indicators with the AI's voice that strongly emphasizes not making this choice. However, after making the choice to Destroy, the influence of the AI, and in turn, the Reapers, has been severed permanently from Shepard's mind, allowing him/her to wake up in a pile of rubble back on Earth.
In my opinion, that's the only explanation as to why the Destroy option where the player sees the body (presumably Shepard) taking a breath at the end. Might not be well thought out, but it's what I've begun to believe inside of the last day.
Bigdoser wrote...
Now that I think about it do you think the gun is also shepard's will power? I mean he uses it the most in the destroy ending I take shepard shooting at the power conduit as shepard rejecting harbinger
prizm123 wrote...
i dont think the green ending has anything to do with indoctrination
i actually think the green ending might be the canon ending the more i think about it....EDI's visor changes color and she smiles, so the synthesis did what it said it would do, made her, and the Geth part organic....it would appear that it is actually the "happy" ending that was intended...
there is a reason that green was chosen as the color for that ending, it is also associated with life
oh_saki wrote...
lookingglassmind wrote...
rogueagent6 wrote...
Holy wow! This thread is still going. Anyways I had a couple things to add. Decided to play some MP today to get my readiness to 80%, and my EMS to 5100. Restarted just after horizon so I could get the Shepard lives ending, but also changed out one of the members of my squad to see what would happen when Normandy crashes.
1. The Squad members you take with you in the final push to the beam don't seem to have any bearing on the sequence when Normandy crashes. On my initial play through I had James and Liara with me. On my replay I swapped Liara for Jalik. On both runs, Joker, Liara, and James step off the Normandy.
I think we figured this out this morning. Who is on the Normandy after the Destroy ending is determined by:
1. Who your LI is (always steps out second)
2. Then who you have interacted with the most (always steps out third).
Can't be true. My LI was Ashley, but on my first playthrough (Synthesis) EDI stepped out 2nd after Joker, and James was 3rd and I definitely didn't interact with him all that much.
EDIT Ah, Didn't see the 'after the Destroy' ending part, my bad. After I chose destroy, Ashley was in fact the 2nd to come out, but I don't remember who was 3rd.
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