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[AnuzaGray]

I think if they clarify that it didn't happen it will drive even more people away.

[AnuzaGray]

Simon_Says wrote...

avatar2396 wrote...
I was one who thought it was never in the plans for the record

I think at this point the IT crowd is not arguing whether it was the original intent or not, but rather that it be made canon now.

It should be canon unless they can come up with something better.

[Zolt51]

AnuzaGray wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

avatar2396 wrote...
I was one who thought it was never in the plans for the record

I think at this point the IT crowd is not arguing whether it was the original intent or not, but rather that it be made canon now.

It should be canon unless they can come up with something better.

The whole point of IT is it doesnt *need* to be canon.

[RorickHuon]

As I watch the footage from the ME3 PAX presentation on youtube. I retake my previous statement, It is easy to discredit these guys when we don't see them talking about the game. But the more and more they go on about the level of detail and emotion that went in to it's construction, I have devolved a new respect. They really do care and you can tell it in their tone. I guess I just have to keep myself busy until the new DLC drops.

[RorickHuon]

If you want to watch it (though not all parts are up yet) http://www.youtube.com/user/BigPSkyrim

[pinoy_sav]

Until the day that Bioware gives us a straight answer that the indoctrination theory is false, then I will continue to think that the IT is a valid theory

[Simon_Says]

RorickHuon wrote...
I guess I just have to keep myself busy until the new DLC drops.

And this is probably one of the reasons why they haven't confirmed or denied anything yet. And rolled out multiplayer dealies the past few weeks.

[Barhador]

Zolt51 wrote...

The whole point of IT is it doesnt *need* to be canon.

This. In addition it doesn't even need solid proof (as a response to the common "if it turns out to be true, it's awesome" crowd). 

[Rob Psyence]

IsaacShep wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Citadel also blows up in green ending where you don't get a Shepard breathes scene.

And? What does it have to do with anything? The fact is, they clearly meant the Citadel blow up scene as real, in each ending. If they didn't, they would've said so.

First of all they didn't say if it was real or not. Second, they were answering the question "how could anyone survive the citadel exploding?" Paraphrazing. It's easy for you to take things out of context huh? They explained its possible for people to survive based on emergency seals.

Third, even if it is "real" that still doesn't prove that there wasnt an Indoctorination attack from Harbinger.

[Cucobr]

- Hey hey hey! pick me! Please!! Pick me sir! I have a question!! Yes! yes!! Oh thanks you so much for the opportunity!

(The other hands goes down)

- I'm so nervous =S




















































- What else character, excluding the shepard, would you throw in the green ray?

Modifié par Cucobr, 07 avril 2012 - 01:40 .

[shepskisaac]

Golferguy758 wrote...

That you get a completely different ending despite the citadel blowing up the same way. Seriously, I'm saying wait to see how the ending dlc plays out. if IT is real for red, great. If not, oh well we get clarification and that's what most important

You seem rather hostile to the thought that all endings can be different, but play out in different ways.

No, I simply don't believe in IT that everything post-Harby's-beam is hallucination.

[balance5050]

pinoy_sav wrote...

Until the day that Bioware gives us a straight answer that the indoctrination theory is false, then I will continue to think that the IT is a valid theory

[RorickHuon]

Simon_Says wrote...

RorickHuon wrote...
I guess I just have to keep myself busy until the new DLC drops.

And this is probably one of the reasons why they haven't confirmed or denied anything yet. And rolled out multiplayer dealies the past few weeks.

makes Sense. From what they said A LOT of work is going into this DLC so the new ME3 multiplayer stuff is a good way to keep us in game.

[sunnie7699]

Barhador wrote...

Zolt51 wrote...

The whole point of IT is it doesnt *need* to be canon.

This. In addition it doesn't even need solid proof (as a response to the common "if it turns out to be true, it's awesome" crowd). 

I think it's more 'if it turns out to be what BioWare intended, then BioWare is awesome for doing it'.

[AxholeRose]

balance5050 wrote...

pinoy_sav wrote...

Until the day that Bioware gives us a straight answer that the indoctrination theory is false, then I will continue to think that the IT is the ending that ME3 deserves

fixed.  thats how i feel about it anyway.  

[Zork90]

Some say IT is now surely false.... but its not! There can still be a resolution in the ending DLC that is similar to what we thought was true in the IT.

At PAX they did not confirm IT, but neither did they deny it. They dodged the question, and why would they do that when they simply could put us out of our misery with a simple NO?

Its either:
1) They dodged that question because they dont want to talk too much about the ending, simply because they might spoil the ending DLC(which potentially would explain something similar to IT). Small chance, but none the less, a chance.

2) Why not give a PR answer and not a definite one. It'll keep us fans running, we'll keep on discussin if it is in fact IT or not? Maybe come up with other theories. Add on the hype etc.

This is what they said:
"We don't want to comment either way...We want the content to speak for itself, and we'll let it do so."

To me personally, the content speaks for itself, its clear. Im not 100% sure, how could I be? But IT is not denied or disproven.

Modifié par Zork90, 07 avril 2012 - 01:47 .

[Turbotanden]

I will keep a small portion of hope that IT is true tucked away, but if I have to wait until summer to get the answer on wether it is right or not then for the most part I give up. Ruins the experience. They should have let us know at PAX, would have been good timing.

Bye bye Bioware. If IT turns out to be true I might come back sometime, but that seems more and more unlikely with every day that passes without a real comment.

[Rob Psyence]

Turbotanden wrote...

I will keep a small portion of hope that IT is true tucked away, but if I have to wait until summer to get the answer on wether it is right or not then for the most part I give up. Ruins the experience. They should have let us know at PAX, would have been good timing.

Bye bye Bioware. If IT turns out to be true I might come back sometime, but that seems more and more unlikely with every day that passes without a real comment.

Summer is only a couple months away, its not like its the middle of fall.... 

[ThomasakaDes_]

In case no one has posted it yet, here`s AngryJoe`s opinion about the Extended Cut dlc:


If Bioware doesn`t explain this ending with Indoctrination, then they better have a very good explenation, or else I won`t accept it.

[Turbotanden]

Rob Psyence wrote...

Turbotanden wrote...

I will keep a small portion of hope that IT is true tucked away, but if I have to wait until summer to get the answer on wether it is right or not then for the most part I give up. Ruins the experience. They should have let us know at PAX, would have been good timing.

Bye bye Bioware. If IT turns out to be true I might come back sometime, but that seems more and more unlikely with every day that passes without a real comment.

Summer is only a couple months away, its not like its the middle of fall.... 

It is just that I believe PR-wise now would be the perfect time to announce it. Media would be all over it. The longer they wait the smaller coverage they will get for pulling such a stunt. That is why my hope is fading and I will have to try to let go and possibly be pleasantly surprised, rather than going around hoping like hell for 3 more months for naught.

[Simon_Says]

Except that this is still early stages for them. Would be rather stupid to say stuff before you're absolutely sure what you're actually going to do.

[GBGriffin]

Simon_Says wrote...

Except that this is still early stages for them. Would be rather stupid to say stuff before you're absolutely sure what you're actually going to do.

They could have at least said "Yes, Shepard is indoctrinated"...after all, doesn't the IT assume that they had this as a plan at some point? That the mechanic was done away with but the idea remained? Why not confirm the idea and then work on figuring out a new mechanic?

[Simon_Says]

Simon_Says wrote...

I think at this point the IT crowd is not arguing whether it was the original intent or not, but rather that it be made canon now.

[savagejuicebox]

Golferguy758 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Considering that Shep wasn't even on a wing of the citadel, no it doesn't. he was outside, on top of the presidium tower. The explanation they gave is good for explaining how others, like Aria or Bailey could survive since they are in the wings of the citadel

And how does it change the fact that they didn't plan the explosion of the Citadel to be hallucination?

Okay, and how does it change the fact that Shepard survived an uncontrolled reentry into the Earth's atmosphere when he's not anywhere near a sealed room?

Have to wait and see how the ending DLC explains it.

Citadel also blows up in green ending where you don't get a Shepard breathes scene.

Goes both ways here. 

Is IT true? Maybe, maybe not. Speculate all you want. I don't think any reasonable person claims the theory to be fact and is the end all be all. Hell, Bioware can be clever and have every ending be true to your playthrough. If you chose green it really happened, you had synthesis occur and boom everyone and their hat (Seriously, Joker's hat becomes synthetic too) is one big happy hybrid thing. if you chose red you could be fighting indoctrination. If you chose blue you could control the reapers to rebuild the relays and such. All of them are true and all of them can have viable explanations that come about due to the new ending dlc

If that's not clear I could expound upon it if you'd like.

Yeah i like that idea, would make almost everyone happy except for those that just love being miserable... haha

[Apollo-XL5]

Here is what i think the dlc ending will show

Shep wakes up from beating indoctrination to find that his team mates digging him out of the rubble. THey tell him they need to get him medical attention, but shep just tells them to give him a medi gel. He then leads them into the beam and up to the citadel. They fight their way to the control panel (it is a cinematic no need for gameplay), shep opens the citadel arms and the crucible docks. But nothing happens. The harbinger communicates with shep and tells him that the crucible was never designed to help defeat them but only to help the reapers (reaper trojan horse) and he goes on to gloat that he is the only one that controld the reapers (bad guys always gloat and give up secrets when they think that they have won.)

Shep and team figure that harbys destruction is the key to beating the reapers and get picked up by cortez who fixed the shuttle and go back to normandy. THere shep calls the fleet and through a rousing speech tells them that harbingers destruction will win them the war and so orders the fleet to stop attacking reapers randomly and instead attack harby.

The whole fleet starts firing on harby (you get to see you EMS at work) and when he blows up all the other reapers explode too (they are connected by a powerful dark energy/subspace network) including all the reapers in other parts of the galaxy.

With the war over, shep is in the infirmary where hackett and anderson show up to tell him that he will be givern the highest honor the alliance has as well as promotion. BUt shep says that he is ready for the quiet life with his LI and so (if with liara, has alot of blue children or with tali goes to rannoch and builds her a house) lives happily and peacefully while the Mass effect universe continues.

Oh and if you picked the control or synthisis endings, then sdhep never wakes up and the reapers win..becuase the indoc dream is a test to see if you can see past the lie that harbinger was showing you.

what do you guys think of that?