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[noobcannon]

Golferguy758 wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Difference between GBgriffin and killnoob is that while GB disagrees entirely he does it respectfully to those who are respectful back, two-way street guys. And it's okay to disagree it is just a theory after all. Speculation is fun. It is still my headcannon at least until i see what BW does with the ending DLC, hell they may make a better one, or they may make a worse one. We don't know yet.

But seeing as how popular this topic became I would be surprised if Indoctrination isn't referenced in the DLC


As to Freakazoid's question! Some people interpreted the gun to be Shepard's willpower. Destroy is the only one he doesn't drop it as he moves toward his choice. Much like in the geth VR a gun is given to Shepard as it is something that is most comfortable to him. I personally thought it was just a gameplay element, but I can kind of see how they can interpret it that way. It was one of the weaker pieces of evidence, same with the keepers you can walk through there, but not anywhere else

Just going to quote you and thank you for your post since I know you hate seeing your posts ignored!

you even if we disagree on the theory! 

can we all agree on agreeing that killnoob's mom made him go to bed and so he's gone now?

[n00bsauce2010]

killnoob wrote...


What does interetation means?

^proof of a troll. Denies a clearly logical statement due to a mispelling.

[noobcannon]

Dwailing wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Difference between GBgriffin and killnoob is that while GB disagrees entirely he does it respectfully to those who are respectful back, two-way street guys. And it's okay to disagree it is just a theory after all. Speculation is fun. It is still my headcannon at least until i see what BW does with the ending DLC, hell they may make a better one, or they may make a worse one. We don't know yet.

But seeing as how popular this topic became I would be surprised if Indoctrination isn't referenced in the DLC


As to Freakazoid's question! Some people interpreted the gun to be Shepard's willpower. Destroy is the only one he doesn't drop it as he moves toward his choice. Much like in the geth VR a gun is given to Shepard as it is something that is most comfortable to him. I personally thought it was just a gameplay element, but I can kind of see how they can interpret it that way. It was one of the weaker pieces of evidence, same with the keepers you can walk through there, but not anywhere else

You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

i think that could just pass as an oversight. who knows.

[Freakaz0idx]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...


It's a stupid question because you look to debunk the theory after it's been discussed in detail for a month. As I just stated. If you wish to neglect that.. it's your decision. But don't try to blame me for making yourself look like a fool.

I came here to have a question answered. I post in these forums when I have questions, and I've received constructive replies from everyone for 2 years. No need to get butthurt and whine over me asking a question that you've seen before. I don't spend my life here so I haven't witnessed the debates behind a thousand page thread. You could have opted to ignore my question since you obviously had nothing relevant to say. Don't waste my time if you can't act like a grown up.

Modifié par Freakaz0idx, 07 avril 2012 - 04:01 .

[Dwailing]

noobcannon wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Difference between GBgriffin and killnoob is that while GB disagrees entirely he does it respectfully to those who are respectful back, two-way street guys. And it's okay to disagree it is just a theory after all. Speculation is fun. It is still my headcannon at least until i see what BW does with the ending DLC, hell they may make a better one, or they may make a worse one. We don't know yet.

But seeing as how popular this topic became I would be surprised if Indoctrination isn't referenced in the DLC


As to Freakazoid's question! Some people interpreted the gun to be Shepard's willpower. Destroy is the only one he doesn't drop it as he moves toward his choice. Much like in the geth VR a gun is given to Shepard as it is something that is most comfortable to him. I personally thought it was just a gameplay element, but I can kind of see how they can interpret it that way. It was one of the weaker pieces of evidence, same with the keepers you can walk through there, but not anywhere else

You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

i think that could just pass as an oversight. who knows.

It could be.  Still, why change the code?

[n00bsauce2010]

Holy sh*t did the trolls leave?

[Dwailing]

Freakaz0idx wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...


It's a stupid question because you look to debunk the theory after it's been discussed in detail for a month. As I just stated. If you wish to neglect that.. it's your decision. But don't try to blame me for making yourself look like a fool.

I came here to have a question answered. I post in these forums when I have questions, and I've received constructive replies from everyone for 2 years. No need to get butthurt and whine over me asking a question that you've seen before. I don't spend my life here so I haven't witnessed the debates behind a thousand page thread. You could have opted to ignore my question since you obviously had nothing relevant to say. Don't waste my time if you can't act like a grown up.

OK, that's enough.  Break it up you two.  (pokes both with stick)

[killnoob]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


. Not some slob sitting back in their underwear with nothing better to do in their day then bring others down because his/her life is f****ed up. I swear if you're not still in your teenage years, your mind is.

Grow up.

And you clearly have better things to do arguing with trolls on the net about a game with crappy ending.

You tell me to grow up?

Grab yourself a mirror.

[Golferguy758]

Freakaz0idx wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...


It's a stupid question because you look to debunk the theory after it's been discussed in detail for a month. As I just stated. If you wish to neglect that.. it's your decision. But don't try to blame me for making yourself look like a fool.

I came here to have a question answered. I post in these forums when I have questions, and I've received constructive replies from everyone for 2 years. No need to get butthurt and whine over me asking a question that you've seen before. I don't spend my life here so I haven't witnessed the debates behind a thousand page thread. You could have opted to ignore my question since you obviously had nothing relevant to say. Don't waste my time if you can't act like a grown up.

Did my best to answer your question. hope it helped!

[lex0r11]

You can't stop me!

Modifié par lex0r11, 07 avril 2012 - 04:05 .

[NoSpin]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Holy sh*t did the trolls leave?

They mostly come out at night......mostly.

[n00bsauce2010]

killnoob wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


. Not some slob sitting back in their underwear with nothing better to do in their day then bring others down because his/her life is f****ed up. I swear if you're not still in your teenage years, your mind is.

Grow up.

And you clearly have better things to do arguing with trolls on the net about a game with crappy ending.

You tell me to grow up?

Grab yourself a mirror.

^ at least the troll admits he is a troll.

Also you're argument is not relevant.. well.. because you're a troll.

[killnoob]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Holy sh*t did the trolls leave?

here's some interesting fact:

Troll never leaves.

They're always around.

I was in this thread like 700 pages ago.

I'm here now.

Enjoy my presence because as long as I don't violate any forum rules I will always be here.

[noobcannon]

Dwailing wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Difference between GBgriffin and killnoob is that while GB disagrees entirely he does it respectfully to those who are respectful back, two-way street guys. And it's okay to disagree it is just a theory after all. Speculation is fun. It is still my headcannon at least until i see what BW does with the ending DLC, hell they may make a better one, or they may make a worse one. We don't know yet.

But seeing as how popular this topic became I would be surprised if Indoctrination isn't referenced in the DLC


As to Freakazoid's question! Some people interpreted the gun to be Shepard's willpower. Destroy is the only one he doesn't drop it as he moves toward his choice. Much like in the geth VR a gun is given to Shepard as it is something that is most comfortable to him. I personally thought it was just a gameplay element, but I can kind of see how they can interpret it that way. It was one of the weaker pieces of evidence, same with the keepers you can walk through there, but not anywhere else

You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

i think that could just pass as an oversight. who knows.

It could be.  Still, why change the code?

maybe.

like i said earlier there are 3 things that i just can't get past without a clear-cut answer from bioware

the oily shadows in shepard's dreams

anderson getting to that console before you (down a 1 way path)

and you breathing under rubble.

everything else i could really care less about.

Modifié par noobcannon, 07 avril 2012 - 04:05 .

[Golferguy758]

Dwailing wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Difference between GBgriffin and killnoob is that while GB disagrees entirely he does it respectfully to those who are respectful back, two-way street guys. And it's okay to disagree it is just a theory after all. Speculation is fun. It is still my headcannon at least until i see what BW does with the ending DLC, hell they may make a better one, or they may make a worse one. We don't know yet.

But seeing as how popular this topic became I would be surprised if Indoctrination isn't referenced in the DLC


As to Freakazoid's question! Some people interpreted the gun to be Shepard's willpower. Destroy is the only one he doesn't drop it as he moves toward his choice. Much like in the geth VR a gun is given to Shepard as it is something that is most comfortable to him. I personally thought it was just a gameplay element, but I can kind of see how they can interpret it that way. It was one of the weaker pieces of evidence, same with the keepers you can walk through there, but not anywhere else

You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

i think that could just pass as an oversight. who knows.

It could be.  Still, why change the code?

Dream sequence, or oversight. Who knows. Only bioware does. use it to fit an ending sequence that makes YOU happy.

[GBGriffin]

Dwailing wrote...


You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

It doesn't have to mean anything, and that's the point. Just because it doesn't make sense is no indication that it's proof of a larger truth; it can simply just be a mistake, an oversight, or just mean nothing at all.

People can attach meaning to anything, and that's pretty clear in the case of the evidence. It never suggested indoctrination before launch; there was no real buildup. Even after Arrival DLC, people weren't insisting to this degree that Shep was now indoctrinated, or at the risk of becoming indoctrinated.


To me, the facts and observation should form the basis for a theory; the theory should not be the basis for making sense of the observations.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 07 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[Dwailing]

lex0r11 wrote...



You can't stop me!

Nice!  All I have to say is, why can't these trolls act in an orderly and lawful manner?

[killnoob]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...


Also you're argument is not relevant.. well.. because you're a troll.

NOOOOOOOOO....

[Freakaz0idx]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Difference between GBgriffin and killnoob is that while GB disagrees entirely he does it respectfully to those who are respectful back, two-way street guys. And it's okay to disagree it is just a theory after all. Speculation is fun. It is still my headcannon at least until i see what BW does with the ending DLC, hell they may make a better one, or they may make a worse one. We don't know yet.

But seeing as how popular this topic became I would be surprised if Indoctrination isn't referenced in the DLC


As to Freakazoid's question! Some people interpreted the gun to be Shepard's willpower. Destroy is the only one he doesn't drop it as he moves toward his choice. Much like in the geth VR a gun is given to Shepard as it is something that is most comfortable to him. I personally thought it was just a gameplay element, but I can kind of see how they can interpret it that way. It was one of the weaker pieces of evidence, same with the keepers you can walk through there, but not anywhere else

All right, this is all I needed to know lol.

[n00bsauce2010]

GBGriffin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

It doesn't have to mean anything, and that's the point. Just because it doesn't make sense is no indication that it's proof of a larger truth; it can simply just be a mistake, an oversight, or just mean nothing at all.

People can attach meaning to anything, and that's pretty clear in the case of the evidence. It never suggested indoctrination before launch; there was no real buildup. Even after Arrival DLC< people were'nt insisting to this degree that Shep was now indoctrinated, or at the risk of becoming indoctrinated.


To me, the facts and observation should form the basis for a theory; the theory should not be the basis for making sense of the observations.

Interpretation.

[GBGriffin]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Interpretation.

Dismissal of anything that doesn't support the IT.

[Fhaarkas]

 I'll just shamelessly post these links here again. My thought on the ending business. Chillaz.

http://social.biowar...3/1244#11070491 
http://social.biowar...3/1247#11074453 
http://social.biowar...3/1248#11077214 

EDIT: TL;DR - The ending DLC will cater to both camps, or however many camps are there.

Modifié par Fhaarkas, 07 avril 2012 - 04:12 .

[n00bsauce2010]

GBGriffin wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Interpretation.

Dismissal of anything that doesn't support the IT.

^Dismissal of logical statements on multiple occasions. Interpretation was bioware's intention (truth.) So if we can craft up any theory that fits the mythos and lore of mass effect.. then it works.

[NoSpin]

GBGriffin wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


You can walk through the keepers?  That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel.  Why would they change that?

It doesn't have to mean anything, and that's the point. Just because it doesn't make sense is no indication that it's proof of a larger truth; it can simply just be a mistake, an oversight, or just mean nothing at all.

People can attach meaning to anything, and that's pretty clear in the case of the evidence. It never suggested indoctrination before launch; there was no real buildup. Even after Arrival DLC, people weren't insisting to this degree that Shep was now indoctrinated, or at the risk of becoming indoctrinated.


To me, the facts and observation should form the basis for a theory; the theory should not be the basis for making sense of the observations.

Arrival in interesting, didn't they say it had "massive" implications for ME3 or something?

You can't prove God exists, I can't prove he doesn't. A bit extravagant, but the same applies here. I can't prove he/she is indoctrinated, you can't prove he/she isn't. Until our "God" (Bioware) tells us that is.

[RedShft]

So how to people feel about IT? You still believe it is a possibility? Personally, I've lost faith several announcements ago but I'm interested to hear how people feel about it now.