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[DirtyPhoenix]

I think I heard both wind and soldiers scream in the background of that Shep breathes scene.

And were we ever showed images of the injured Shepard?

[clennon8]

captainbob8383 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

I'm about 90% sure the "Shep breathes" scene is on the Citadel, folks. So whatever version of IT you believe in has to account for that.

The heart of the citadel explodes. No way Shepard would survive that, and he would end up spaced. While in the breath scene there is clearly air and gravity. 

Somebody posted a video analysis of the rubble the other day that finally convinced me.  There are grooves in the chunks of rubble that match grooves in the pillar that Shepard destroys.  And the supposed rebar matches Reaper cables on the pillar as well.

As for the noises, they're too indistinct and muddled to ascribe them to Reapers or soldiers or whatever.  Sounds more like straining metal to me.

The sections of the Citadel are capable of separately sealing themselves, so that would explain why Shepard didn't get spaced.

Modifié par clennon8, 07 avril 2012 - 11:21 .

[LotharArmoran]

waldstr18 wrote...

what? isnt summer like juni, july, august and maybe september everywhere? isnt all that connected with the distance to the sun? how could that be different anywhere on planet earth.

i wouldnt even know how to google that. when exactly is summer in china? do eskimos get spring break? do they celebrate christmas in africa?

People in southern hemisphere, i.e. Aussies have summer when everyone else has winter: Dec, Jan, Feb

[Legion109]

Let's face it Grunt is attending Tuchanka U, Kaiden is jobless living at home, Tali is researching what truly happened to Shepard and Garrus has become a drunk professing every place he goes would be "Shepards favorite store on the citadel"

[schneeland]

Spiderman_2028 wrote...

 Ok one more post because this was too funny...

I have a 5 year old son.

The following is an actual conversation we had not 3 minutes ago. I am not making this up. This JUST happened.

Me: Did Imtell you I finished off Mass Effect 3?
Son: What happened?
Me: it was rubbish.
Son: why?
Me: it was just silly
Son: Well... Was there a big monster?
Me: Nope. You know what you have to do at the end?
Son: ... A big fight?
Me: no, you go for a walk.
Son: ... What?
Me: You go for a walk and have a chat with a ghost
Son: *confused look* ...What?
Me: Yeah. That's what I said.
Son: (thinks for 5 seconds) Dad, that's silly. You can play Skylanders on my XBox instead, if you want. It has monsters
Me: Thanks buddy.

Just wanted to share that. I think it sums it up nicely.

Bye all.... 

He he. I think, your son is pretty cool

[waldstr18]

LotharArmoran wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

what? isnt summer like juni, july, august and maybe september everywhere? isnt all that connected with the distance to the sun? how could that be different anywhere on planet earth.

i wouldnt even know how to google that. when exactly is summer in china? do eskimos get spring break? do they celebrate christmas in africa?

People in southern hemisphere, i.e. Aussies have summer when everyone else has winter: Dec, Jan, Feb

thanks. now i feel stupid.

but do they have winter when we have summer? if they have summer all the time, it doesnt count.

[naddaya]

waldstr18 wrote...

LotharArmoran wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

what? isnt summer like juni, july, august and maybe september everywhere? isnt all that connected with the distance to the sun? how could that be different anywhere on planet earth.

i wouldnt even know how to google that. when exactly is summer in china? do eskimos get spring break? do they celebrate christmas in africa?

People in southern hemisphere, i.e. Aussies have summer when everyone else has winter: Dec, Jan, Feb

thanks. now i feel stupid.

but do they have winter when we have summer? if they have summer all the time, it doesnt count.

Yup, it's swapped.

[Chief Commander]

I just can´t get over it. All those clues! They are massive! 4500 Words according to Word. 19 pages! It´s times like these I desperately wish I was CEO of EA. I´d give us the ending we all want. Because obviously they just don´t want to make their fans happy.

[ZombifiedJake]

I have a bad feeling that they're just going to go the obvious route and show the implications of your final "decision" that is real and not in your Shepard's mind.

But I'd love to see them go for this theory which you guys have put a lot of work into, have to say well done. I wasn't on board at first, but I can see how much merit it has.

[Arian Dynas]

Chief Commander wrote...

I just can´t get over it. All those clues! They are massive! 4500 Words according to Word. 19 pages! It´s times like these I desperately wish I was CEO of EA. I´d give us the ending we all want. Because obviously they just don´t want to make their fans happy.

Of course they do. Happy fans are happy wallets, and happy wallets is happy money, and happy money is money in EA's pockets.

[Vahilor]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

I just can´t get over it. All those clues! They are massive! 4500 Words according to Word. 19 pages! It´s times like these I desperately wish I was CEO of EA. I´d give us the ending we all want. Because obviously they just don´t want to make their fans happy.

Of course they do. Happy fans are happy wallets, and happy wallets is happy money, and happy money is money in EA's pockets.

Really hope you are right.. but all that talk about keeping their "artistic integregy" (darn allways don't know how to spell it) makes me sceptical.

[Kazalord2]

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.

[Sovereign Skyguardian]

clennon8 wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

I'm about 90% sure the "Shep breathes" scene is on the Citadel, folks. So whatever version of IT you believe in has to account for that.

The heart of the citadel explodes. No way Shepard would survive that, and he would end up spaced. While in the breath scene there is clearly air and gravity. 

Somebody posted a video analysis of the rubble the other day that finally convinced me.  There are grooves in the chunks of rubble that match grooves in the pillar that Shepard destroys.  And the supposed rebar matches Reaper cables on the pillar as well.

As for the noises, they're too indistinct and muddled to ascribe them to Reapers or soldiers or whatever.  Sounds more like straining metal to me.

The sections of the Citadel are capable of separately sealing themselves, so that would explain why Shepard didn't get spaced.

No it does not. He was an the presidium ring not on the arms. EVERYTHING exploded!!!
On top of that he gets killed in the exploding tube after shooting it.
There is NO way he lives,
Furthermore there is NO WAY he is on the citadell because the citadell does NOT have concrete!

[naddaya]

Kazalord2 wrote...

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.

Jessica Merizan said there weren't only cinematics, was this denied at PAX?

[Arian Dynas]

Kazalord2 wrote...

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.

*sigh* I hate having to do the wall o' text thing. But here goes.

Arian Dynas wrote...

 


I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.

If you chose Control with low EMS or chose Destroy with any EMS, go to 1.
If you chose Control with high EMS, go to 2
If you Chose Synthesis, go to 3.

1 - Left For Dead

[Star Child appears before Shepard, looking down at him and shaking his head]

SC: Shepard, you disappoint me. It seems there is little point in devoting any further effort to you.

[SC changes into a hologram of Harbinger]

HARBINGER: RELEASING CONTROL.

[Hologram disappears, Harbinger leaving Shepard to die, moves either to cutscene 4 if your EMS was low enough that you only had one option or chose Control or 5 if it was over 2000 and you chose Destroy.]
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2 -  A Pawn in a Larger Game

[Star Child appears before Shepard, looking down at him. and grinning wickedly before disappearing]

[Shepard begins to crawl out from the rubble, attracting the attention of Garrus and Liara whom are running a search and rescue op to find Shepard.]

LIARA: Shepard!

[Shepard turns, looking none the worse for wear, much the same as we last saw him, only he seems to be standing taller and straighter now.]

SHEPARD: Liara, Garrus! What are you two doing down here?

GARRUS: Looking for you, you look rough. Are you holding up alright?

HARBINGER [whispering only to Shepard]: KILL THEM, THEY ARE A THREAT.

SHEPARD[Reaching down to pick up a pistol from the ground, it's the same Carnifex from his hallucination]: Yeah... I'm fine.

GARRUS: Good, we'll get an evac team in as soon as possible then.

SHEPARD: You do that.

LIARA: Shepard... are you alright?

SHEPARD: Yeah, fine, just a bit messed up, the fight took alot out of me.

GARRUS[turning his back to Shepard Liara standing beside him]: Well the shuttle should be coming in any moment now, then we'll get you back to HQ and brief you on the suitation.

SHEPARD [Leveling his pistol to the back of Garrus' head, bringing to mind imagery of Saren and Nihlius]: Sounds good.

[Cut to black, pistol shots, Liara screams and there's the sound of two bodies hitting the ground.]

ALLIANCE MARINE [on radio]: ...oing on? Repeat, we need a sitrep. What's going on down there?

SHEPARD [picking up the radio]: Situation under control soldier.

AM: Commander Shepard, it's good to hear you, what happened sir?

SHEPARD[pretending to hold back tears]: Reaper attack, it's dealt with but... they got two of my team, Garrus and Liara.

AM [audibly distressed]: I'm sorry to hear that sir. We'll see to it they get proper burials once we can secure the LZ.

SHEPARD: Thank you, soldier.

[Audio fades to sad music, zoom out to see shuttle landing, Shepard carrying Liara's body to it, a marine stepping out and talking to him/her. Cut to Reaper ground troops approaching the LZ rapidly, Shepard loads on with Liara's body, several of the marines climb out to hold off the enemy so Shepard can escape. Camera cuts to Shepard watching the squad getting wiped out, then he turns to the player, looks out the screen and smiles wickedly as his eyes flash yellow. Cue credits.]
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3 - Self Sacrifice

[Star Child appears before Shepard's body, covered in rubble, looks slightly... off. Star Child grins, eyes flash yellow and he disappears]

[Shepard crawls from the rubble, his synthetics EXTREMELY noticeable now, wires running across his skin, ect, in fact, he looks rather like the hybrids from the Synthesis ending]

[Cut to a sniper scope lining up on Shepard's head, cut and spin 180 to reveal Garrus is the one lining up the shot, he pulls his eye back from the scope in shock, his mandibles (or, whatever the hell you call those things on the sides of his cheeks) click in suprise. He throws his head foreward, looking into the scope again, lining up Shepard again, or so we think, but instead nailing a Husk that was about to throw itself at his back, Shepard turns to Garrus' post and looks suprised.]

GARRUS: Still needing me to get you out of trouble, eh Shepard?

SHEPARD[moaning in pain and clutching his temples]: G-Garrus...

GARRUS: What did they do to you Shepard?

SHEPARD: I d-don't know.... AUGH! G-GO! GET AWAY FROM ME!

[Shepard swings at Garrus, who doges the blow. Several other people climb up over a hill to see the scene before them, Liara, Vega, and several Alliance Marines backing them.]

LIARA: Garrus what's goin... Goddess...

[Shepard turns to face Liara, looking at her, his face contorted with pain.]

SHEPARD: Liara! Get out of here, get everyone out of here! They're trying to HAAAAAAAAAA!

[Shepard collapses with a scream, his body convulsing like electricity is being jolted through it.]

VEGA: Carumba... what's happening to him? What did those sons of ****es do to him?

GARRUS: Get back! He's indoctrinated. We saw the same thing with Saren.

[Shepard reaches out, clawing the ground with one hand, still trying to fight off Reaper influence one way or another, still trying to resist, but being slowly broken down, Garrus approaches with his pistol to finish the commander off, intending to end his suffering with a single bullet, a mercy kill.]

GARRUS[visibly upset]: I'm sorry commander... that it.. had to end this way.

[If your EMS was just enough to qualify for Synthesis, but only the minimum, then Garrus just shoots Shepard through the head, bang, cut to black and we see them leaving in the shuttles, sans crater and heroic death scene.]

[A large impact shakes the ground and several husks, ravagers, mauraders and cannibals climb up over the hill as everyone dives for cover. Shepard still claws the ground and sees an abandoned assault rifle lying near him.]

[The cannibals kill several of the marines, whom are spun by the impact of the bullets, the squad still desperately tries to fight off the enemy, Shepard suddenly stands up behind where Garrus, Vega and Liara are taking cover, clutching an assult rifle in his hands, standing tall now.]

GARRUS: Commander!

LIARA: Shepard!

SHEPARD[running into the enemy horde, firing the rifle the whole way]: Get out of here! I'll hold them off

LIARA: We're not leaving you commander!

SHEPARD [ducking as a grenade explodes near him]: Just go! I'm dead already!

VEGA: The hell you are Loco!

SHEPARD: Get out of here! That's an order!

[Shepard stands up and charges into the horde firing the whole way, bullets richocheting off what's left of his armor, some striking into his flesh, blood flies, shepard grabs a bandolier of grenades off the ground and pulls the pin off one, diving into  a mass of Brutes, Banshees, Marauders ect. There's a huge explosion, cut to a shuttle taking off, Vega and Liara watch from inside, Garrus just looks distraught, sad piano music plays. Then go to cutscene 7.]
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4 - Death of a Soldier 

[Shepard lies there in the rubble, moaning softly in pain, he hears shouts in the distance. "Shepard! Shepard!" but he can't identify the source. Sad piano music plays, a soft white light slowly fills the screen. fade back in to Liara, Garrus, Vega, EDI, perhaps even Javik finding Shepard's body, everyone but Javik is visibly upset, Javik merely kneels and touches Shepard's body. No dialogue. Camera pans up to see the sunrise, showing a badly damaged Crucible (to be explored more in a later sequel) in orbit, Reaper bodies slowly falling to Earth. Fade to black, go to cutscene 7]
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5 - Lost and Found

[Camera pans out from Shepard's body mostly covered in rubble and recognizable only from the dogtags sticking out and the charred armor.]

HACKETT [on radio]: ..pard, has anyone caught sight of Shepard? 

[squadmates looking for you, Garrus and and Liara] GARRUS: No sign, the approach got totaled after Harbinger's bombardment.

LIARA [whispered to herself]: Not again Shepard, please tell me, not again...

[Garrus turns and lays a hand on her shoulder, giving an encouraging nod. Go to cutscene 6 if you saw the "Shepard Alive" video, or go to cutscene 8 if you did not.]
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6 - Standing Triumphant

[Shepard manages to shift the rubble, just barely, Garrus and Liara turn to see Shepard pull just enough of himself from the rubble to weakly prop himself up. Liara turns and her face brightens, Garrus' eyebrows raise in shock, then he runs over to start helping you out, radioing to Hackett]

GARRUS: Alliance Command!, We have Shepard, repeat, we have Shepard!

HACKETT: Thank God. Garrus, we're sending a medical and extraction team, hold your ground until they get there. 

[the rest of your squad, any and all living members comment via radio, they're all running search and rescue teams of their own.]

VEGA[on radio]: Hey Loco, good to hear from ya, pendejo sons of ****es couldn't manage to kill you yet huh?

JAVIK[also on radio]: Commander, it is good to hear you are alive. It would be unfortunate to lose an ally now.

EDI [also on radio]: Commander Shepard, it is good to see you are alive. Jeff hasn't been at his best since you disappeared. He apologizes for crashing the Normandy earlier.

[Shepard makes a face similar to the one he made about EDI's joke concerning oxygen levels and her absorption in a task.]

EDI: That is a joke.

[A few shots come zipping by, fired by a cannibal, Garrus turns and pops the cannibal through the head, before taking cover, Liara helps prop shepard up against a chunk of rubble dispensing medi-gel. Then a conversation begins, Shepard may choose to investigate several options, including "What happened?" "Where's Harbinger?" "What happened to the Crucible?" and then you can end the conversation by commenting either that you are glad that they found you rather than some husk, or that you're pissed about the state of things.

Answers to each investigate go as follows;

"What happened?"

SHEPARD [Weakly]: What's the suituation?

GARRUS [taking cover from more Cannibal fire]: It's been two days since the seige started, Hammer team got wiped out, we assumed you were dead.

SHEPARD [sarcastically] : Well that's comforting.

[Garrus chuckles]

LIARA: After Hammer was destroyed, we nearly gave up, 

GARRUS [interrupting, still in cover, stands up to fire a few shots from his sniper rifle, blasts a Husk through the head]: Ha! [Satisfied smirk, nod.]  We did.

SHEPARD: What changed?

GARRUS: Well, yesterday, the Reapers started acting strange, their ground forces were acting uncoordinated and almost... feral. More so than usual I mean. It was almost like they were focusing on something, We figured that something was you.

SHEPARD [sudden moan of pain, clutches his temples]: Agh... mm... I think you might be right.

"Where's Harbinger?"

SHEPARD: So, what happened to Harbinger? Last I saw him was on the approach.

GARRUS: Harbinger's been a non issue the past two days. We're lucky, it gave us some time to recover.

LIARA: It's as though he's been distracted, focusing on something. Ignoring everything else.

GARRUS: We figured that something was you.

"What happened to the Crucible?"

SHEPARD: What about the Crucible? Last thing I can remember, it wasn't firing.

GARRUS [turns, and looks at Shepard, suprised.]: You heard wrong, The Crucible never even showed up, 

SHEPARD [look of confusion]: What?

LIARA: The Crucible arrived this morning, it was still in dry dock the whole time.

[Camera pans to the Crucible device, hanging in high orbit above the planet, a large chunk visibly damaged.]

GARRUS:They took one look at the thing and half the fleet just left. Withdrew. Like they knew something would happen. One of them, Harbinger I think, got a parting shot as they were pulling out through the Charon Relay, huge damage to the thing. They're working on repairs now.

SHEPARD: Damn it!

GARRUS [stands, sights a target and nails a Marauder though the eye]: We're holding our own though, the lull for the past two days has been giving us time to recover. We still have a chance.

SHEPARD: "You have hope, more than you know"

LIARA [A look of concern for Shepard]: What? 

SHEPARD: Nothing.

"I'm glad you found me." [PARAGON]

SHEPARD: I'm glad it's you two who found me, getting turned into a husk wasn't what I was really planning for my retirement.

[Garrus chuckles, Liara smiles]

"Sons of ****es." [RENEGADE]

SHEPARD: Damn it, don't they ever give up?

GARRUS: Would you?

SHEPARD [watches an Alliance squad being assaulted by a number of Husks in the distance.]: No.

[Both Paragon and Renegade options lead to the same scene, a horde of Reaper ground forces start to come up the hill, Garrus blasts the heads off a few as they approach, Shepard tries to stand up, Liara forces him/her to sit down, turns and blasts the Reapers with a Singularity. After a moment or two of watching the combat, a shuttle, flanked by two gunships comes in close, the gunships blasting away at the encroaching ground forces before the shuttle lands, two EMTs climb out and ask where Shepard is, Liara points out his location and they load him into the shuttle, one distributing more medi-gel as he's loaded on, Garrus and Liara climbing in after. 

EMT: Sir, if we try to take off now we'll be wide open, we need something to draw their fire. 

[Go to cutscene 9 if the player saw the breath scene and managed to sit up enough to get their attention, or go to cutscene 8 if they did not.]
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7 - Buried With Honors

[If Shepard died at any point here, then the scene cuts to here, Shepard's memorial service Staning in the ruins of London, in front of the bombed out Big Ben, rubble mostly cleared away for the ceremony. Admiral Hackett, still looking worse for wear, scar still slashing across his face, it has yet to heal, standing in front of a podium, Anderson to his left, Vega, Kaiden (if he's alive) Cortez (if he's alive) Ashley (If she's alive) those two soldiers guarding the war room, and Traynor (if she's alive) standing to his right, a casket with the N7 iconography in front of him. Everyone is visibly upset.]

[Sad piano music plays, no dialogue, Hackett says something, Vega, Vermire Survivor, Chakwas, everyone takes a turn at the podium, nothing is heard but the music, Liara is sitting in the crowd, crying, Garrus and Tali (if she lived) next to her, Javik is nowhere to be found, his seat, empty, the Prothean has disappeared. Grunt (if he survived) roars into the distance, Wrex and a horde of Krogan behind them. Joker just sits, staring distraught at the casket, before turning and sobbing into EDI's shoulder, his humor having abandoned him. EDI herself gently holds him, rubbing his back, careful not to cause any damage.The Geth (if they weren't wiped out of course), appear, all seeming out of place. The Quarians wail and tear at their suits, The Rachni queen watches through the eyes of the Asari from the second game, the Turian military, led by Primarch Victus give a 21 gun salute as Vega, VS, and all the servicemen from the Normandy load the casket into the grave. Camera tilts down to look into the grave, dirt is slowly shoveled on, covering the N7 symbol as the screen slowly fades to black. Go to cutscene 10.]
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8 - Snatched From the Jaws of Victory

[This cutscene plays out identically to 6 with a few minor differences, Shepard does not manage to shift the rubble, only to make noise, forcing Liara and Garrus to dig him out.
They prop him up, allowing the same conversation as before . When the shuttles arrive, the cutscene below takes place]

[Reaper forces slowly make their way up the hill, bullets richoceting off the armor of the shuttles, Garrus and Liara climb off the shuttle to buy them time, several Alliance Marines joining them, a cutscene follows, 
Garrus pops off a few shots, killing some Husks, Liara warps a Banshee's barrier, causing her to flinch.]

SHEPARD: Garrus, what the hell are you doing?

GARRUS[banging his fist against the side of the door, mimicking the soldier doing the same to a shuttle at the beginning of the game.]: Buying you time commander.

SHEPARD: Get back on here! That's an order!

GARRUS: Sorry Shepard, going to have to refuse that order. We're getting you out of here alive, one way or another.

[Shepard tries to gather the strength to tell them not to throw their lives away, but we only get to watch helplessly as Garrus' position is overrun by Husks, Liara is killed by a blast from a Ravager, and one of the two gunships escorting you gets shot down. Go to cutscene 9.]
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9 - A Hero's Welcome

[If you did NOT see cutscene 8, a Reaper collumn starts making their way in, but a number of ships from the fleet strafe them and the shuttle takes off with Shepard, Liara and Garrus on board.]

[Shepard is taken to an Alliance Field hospital, Anderson is there to greet them off the shuttle. If Liara and Garrus died, then he offers his condolences, especially if Liara was a LI, if not then the scene plays out like this;]

[Shuttle and Gunship/s touch down at a field hospital. Anderson walks up the the landing pad as Shepard is rushed out on a gurney. He motions for the EMTs to stop for a moment]

ANDERSON: You look good son.

SHEPARD [smiles weakly]: Liar.

ANDERSON [smiles back.]: Sometimes a little self-delusion is good for you. It's damn good to see you alive.

SHEPARD: You too sir, you helped alot.

ANDERSON [watches Shepard get hauled away by the EMTs]: I did?

[Garrus and Liara come up and greet Anderson as you're hauled away, no dialogue as you watch, an EMT looks down at you, you look through Shepard's eyes and watch as a breath mask is fitted over your mouth and nose, the EMT commenting about how this should help you sleep comfortably. You begin to black out.]

[Shepard begins to wake up, your vision swimming into focus, pan out to Shepard lying clean and bandaged in bed, it looks like Huerta Memorial. s/he's surrounded by flowers, gifts, a few "Get well Shepard" cards and you can see several of your squad talking to the doctors on the other side of the glass, you can't move at this point, but you can look around the room and read the cards/ look at the flowers, Shepard comments about each, some items appear based off of whom you've helped throughout the game, last two games, ect. Things like packages of display replicas of your N7 armor from Conrad Verner if he's alive, with his usual hero worship notes, a joke book from EDI and Joker, boxes of chocolates and flowers from Kaiden, a book of Tennyson poems from Ash, model shuttle from Cortez, a Haiku from Kasumi, stuffed Cannibal head from Grunt, a copy of Fornax, along with a note from Aria, things of that nature. After you've interacted with everything you can , your LI notices Shepard's awake, in this case, let's assume Ash.]

ASHLEY[pushes the doctor aside and opens the door, looks over, and smiles.]: Hey Skipper.

SHEPARD: Ash! 

ASHLEY [smiles]: It's good to see you awake. [sits down on a bench next to your bed.]

SHEPARD [the realization of where he is setting in]: What's going on? Didn't something happen to the Citadel? Where's the Reapers?

ASHLEY: Woah, slow down Commander. It's ok, the front is lighyears away. For now.

SHEPARD: For now?

ASHLEY [sighs, not wanting to talk about the subject when you've just woken up from your coma.]: We've pushed the Reapers off of Earth. But we haven't won the war yet. But we have a chance now. Harbinger is still out there, but now we've got time to rebuild. And at least we've got you around to help.

SHEPARD [lies back, mulling it over.]: I'm just... so tired...

ASHLEY [smiles, leans over, kisses Shepard and gently pushes him back into his pillows]: "Rest now, brave soldier."

SHEPARD [smiles]: The soldier in question is dying in that poem you know.

ASHLEY [smiles]: You ass, it's the thought that counts.

[Fade to black. Go to cutscene 10]
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10 - Pre-Credits

[Text crawl, changes based off of descisions, lets assume you saved the Krogan, made peace between Geth and Quarians]

In the year 2187 AD, soldiers of the Earth Systems Alliance fought a desperate war against an overwhelming enemy. Earth was left to burn as these machines, called Reapers by the galaxy at large spread like a cancer across the Milky Way. One soldier faced them. Brokering peace between forces considered unreconcileable,he forged a navy unlike any seen before and returned to take back his home. The war was not without it's sacrifices. Though the tide may have turned, with the enemy either dead or in retreat, fleeing back into Dark Space to lick their wounds, they remain implacable, patient and not without resources.

The war is not over.

[Stars appear as text fades, camera pans 180 degrees to face Harbinger, who lets out a metallic scream  as his eyes flash.] 

[If Shepard lived, then he says the following:]

HARBINGER: SHEPARD. YOU HAVE MERELY DELAYED THE INEVITABLE. WE SHALL RETURN, AND YOU SHALL NOT STOP US. YOUR CONTINUED EXISTENCE IS INMAETERIAL, YOU ARE NOT SUITED FOR ASCENSION.WE WILL FIND ANOTHER.

[If Shepard died, then Harbinger says this line instead:]

HARBINGER: WE HAVE BEEN STOPPED FOR NOW. YOU HAVE MERELY DELAYED THE INEVITABLE. WE SHALL RETURN, AND YOU SHALL BE DESTROYED. WE WILL FIND ANOTHER.

[ Harbinger leads the remainder of the Reaper Fleet into dark space to lick their wounds. Cue credits]
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11 - Post Credits

[The Child and the Stargazer appear again, still standing as they were before.]

CHILD: That was a good story.

STARGAZER: I'm glad you liked it. I'm very fond of it too.

CHILD: So... what happened after?

STARGAZER [laugh]: That's another story my sweet, and one not related to The Shepard.

CHILD: Well.. what happened to him? And his friends?

STARGAZER: Well...

[cut to text crawl ala Throne of Bhaal, blue background, ME1 theme playing. Text crawl next to each character's picture, including all squad mates, Wrex, Aria, Joker/EDI, Grissom Academy, Earth, Cerberus, TIM ect.]

MESSAGE FROM EA:

Thank you for enjoying Mass Effect 3. While Shepard's journey may be over, there are far more many adventures to be found in the Milky Way!

Adventures you can take part in, but, until then, that is, as they say, another story.

There, a serviceable ending, incorporating IT, and entirely in cutscenes. Point made. 

Voila, heavily edited from it's earlier draft, but here is my proof of concept, the ending CAN be made with only cutscenes.

 

There, point proven, happy, you little snot?

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 07 avril 2012 - 12:22 .

[schneeland]

Fhaarkas wrote...

Seriously though, IMO in the end it all boils down to realists vs imaginists. I think IT is already pretty sound as a theory.

[speculation] The breath scene was supposed to invoke that "Was it real?" question. But because the preceding scenes were done so ****** poorly (thus not appeasing the realists - face value and IT both), it all went haywire.

This pretty much sums up my current thinking.

[estebanus]

m_k wrote...

Kazalord2 wrote...

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.

Jessica Merizan said there weren't only cinematics, was this denied at PAX?

 

They said that they're currently planning on cinematics and cutscenes, but may also add gameplay to it.

[naddaya]

estebanus wrote...

m_k wrote...

Kazalord2 wrote...

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.

Jessica Merizan said there weren't only cinematics, was this denied at PAX?

 

They said that they're currently planning on cinematics and cutscenes, but may also add gameplay to it.

Well, that's better than nothing

[Mr. Mistake]

One thousand, three hundred, and twenty pages, and one month, and we still have zero facts from BioWare, except an announcement about an "Extended Cut" which may or may not help them regain the respect of their fans.

I think, Mass Effect beats Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, and pretty much any sci-fi universe out there, except 2001: A Space Odyssey... but that's just my opinion. The potential of Mass Effect 3 was limitless. I've read the Mass Effect dissertation, and it speaks about certain details that are hardly mentioned in the game, which, if they were, would blow our minds.

For example, the fact that Omega resembles the crucible, which someone mentioned... Imagine what could be done with that. If we had a decent ending, a retake Omega with Aria DLC could unlock a different ending altogether.

I'm not a writer, or any kind of artist, for that matter, but to have BioWare say that they're proud of the endings they've given us? Does that mean that they're proud of having stirred up all this confusion and extraordinary amounts of feedback while we've been hung up to dry?

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who's calling the shots, if they don't fix it (the Indoctrination/Dream Theory being the best way to do so) they will have died in many of our hearts and minds.

Yet, I think there's still hope. The Extended Cut is an excellent opportunity for BioWare to "take back earth" as in its fans. For those who think the ending is fine, and that this is just a game, let's just agree that if the ending is "fixed", everybody wins. BioWare wins, EA wins, the fans win, and damn it, Shepard wins.

This is more than just a game. To many of us. Let's keep it that way, and keep holding the line for something that means so much to us.

[DirtyPhoenix]

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

[quote]Kazalord2 wrote...

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.[/quote]

*sigh* I hate having to do the wall o' text thing. But here goes.

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

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[/quote]

*claps*

EDIT: F'ed up quote

Modifié par pirate1802, 07 avril 2012 - 12:59 .

[Rifneno]

[quote]Njald wrote...

So Indoc is either completly off the table and nothing was said as to not ****** off the indoc crowd or the Indoc is very close to "the truth" and nothing was definitly said as to not give away the DLC. Or Indoc is false but fan speculation is somehow something EA earns money on these days. Speculation=money? I can't see how when most speculation seems to be how to fix the faulty product and anger over why it's broken in the first place.
Haven't seen this much noncommital to an issue since presidental debates regarding abortion and guncontrol[/quote]

Ha. I like you. Logical thinking without a clear bias toward one side. That's something you don't see every day.

[quote]DocJill wrote...

From what I could tell, during every cycle the Reapers take special interest in one species to make new Reapers out of. Hence the human reaper. It is speculated that this is thier form of reproduction. Why we never see any other type of reaper besides the crusteceans I don't know.
[/quote]

Supposedly each Reaper has a smaller body inside the ship, which is what the human proto-Reaper thing was. One race is made into a capital ship, the others are made into destroyers. Capital ships are the ultra-dreadnought size abominations like Sovereign. Destroyers are the much smaller but still damned big "dome" type ones that we see on Tuchanka, Rannoch, ect.

Capital ships are modeled from an animal called a "reaper cuddlefish". Yes, it's actually called a Reaper Cuddlefish.


Destroyers are modeled from leaf nymph insects.


[quote]IronSabbath88 wrote...

I can't help but realize that a lot of these anti-IT people are two things.

1. Arrogant. "Oh you guys are just fooling yourselves. Maybe if you were actually like me and could just admit that BioWare screwed up, maybe then I'd give you a chance to speak."

2. Extremely rude. Just look at what some of them say, one guy compared us to down-syndrome people essentially.. classy. Not to mention the Intoxication theory people who seem to think they're funny.[/quote]

To be fair to anti-IT folks, we only see the worst ones here (in this thread I mean). The reasonable ones who respect others' opinions wouldn't come here to begin with.
And yeah, the "intoxication theory" thing is a black hole of humor. If George Carlin knew these guys when he was growing up, he'd have wound up being an accountant.

[quote]IsaacShep wrote...

But it doesn't matter anyway. The fact that they answered question about pople surviving the explosion of the Citadel at the end and how they put info into Codex on purpouse explaining how survival is possible debunks the IT. The Citadel blow-up really happened.
[/quote]

Okay, so let me get this straight. You think the codex explaining possible survival on the WARDS Citadel (not the PRESIDIUM where Shepard was) for no apparent reason means IT is debunked while the codex listing new indoctrination symptoms, symptoms that Shepard experiences, means nothing.

LOL.

[quote]Simon_Says wrote...

I think at this point the IT crowd is not arguing whether it was the original intent or not, but rather that it be made canon now.
[/quote]

Maybe the rest of you guys aren't, but I sure as hell will. There is no way in hell that all the clues we've found were accidental. It was planned.

[quote]Legion109 wrote...

"Artistic integrity they said, goddamn crap I said" <---- I don't know who took Zaeeds remark and turned it against Bioware like this but it fits.
[/quote]

I still prefer "'Catalyst,' he said. 'Guddamn Reaper,' I said."

[quote]Dwailing wrote...

You can walk through the keepers? That is actually weird because the keepers were solid earlier on the Citadel. Why would they change that?

[/quote]

One of them is blocked by corpses, but the other one, yes, you can walk through it like it's not even there.

[quote]noobcannon wrote...

i think that could just pass as an oversight. who knows.
[/quote]

Unlikely. They just copy over the model from existing keepers. They'd have to actually turn clipping off on this one specifically. I suppose it could be a typo, but it's kind of odd placement for such a 'bug'.

[quote]moonlightwolf wrote...

Bioware has clearly shown through its current press releases and announcements that indoctrination theory is not correct.[/quote]

Look up the difference between "imply" and "infer".

[quote]Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

So yeah his chances of surviving Orbital from Citadel is 0, litterally 0. [/quote]

QFT. God, I can't believe people still argue that. Anyone who thinks an unprotected human body can survive atmospheric re-entry should have every grade they've ever gotten in science retroactively changed to a 0.

[quote]clennon8 wrote...

I'm about 90% sure the "Shep breathes" scene is on the Citadel, folks. So whatever version of IT you believe in has to account for that. [/quote]

We have to modify our belief to fit yours? I don't think so.

[quote]pirate1802 wrote...

I live in a different part of the world, so which month is summer exactly?[/quote]

Unfortunately, it's a season not a month. Technically speaking, summer is June 20-September 21. ...

[quote]waldstr18 wrote...

what? isnt summer like juni, july, august and maybe september everywhere? isnt all that connected with the distance to the sun? how could that be different anywhere on planet earth.

i wouldnt even know how to google that. when exactly is summer in china? do eskimos get spring break? do they celebrate christmas in africa?[/quote]

Summer in China is whenever the hell the government tells you summer is.

[quote]Kazalord2 wrote...

The Extended Cut is just going to add some cinematic scenes.. .wouldn't that be extremely stupid if IT was true ? I mean: you wake up, cinematic blowing **** up, end, epilogue. And no gameplay ? That just doesn't make any sence.[/quote]

Neither does the assumption that it won't include gameplay.

[Leonia]

Legion109 wrote...

Let's face it Grunt is attending Tuchanka U, Kaiden is jobless living at home, Tali is researching what truly happened to Shepard and Garrus has become a drunk professing every place he goes would be "Shepards favorite store on the citadel"

I need a comic depicting this. For science.

[ZombifiedJake]

Mr. Mistake wrote...

For example, the fact that Omega resembles the crucible, which someone mentioned... Imagine what could be done with that. If we had a decent ending, a retake Omega with Aria DLC could unlock a different ending altogether.

That would be great - bypassing the current ending.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Rifneno wrote..

Summer in China is whenever the hell the government tells you summer is.

hahaha lmfao. I'm gonna make this my sig XD!!

EDIT: How to set your sig? -.- Can someone tell me I'm new in here..

Modifié par pirate1802, 07 avril 2012 - 01:27 .

[Big G13]

schneeland wrote...

Spiderman_2028 wrote...

 Ok one more post because this was too funny...

I have a 5 year old son.

The following is an actual conversation we had not 3 minutes ago. I am not making this up. This JUST happened.

Me: Did Imtell you I finished off Mass Effect 3?
Son: What happened?
Me: it was rubbish.
Son: why?
Me: it was just silly
Son: Well... Was there a big monster?
Me: Nope. You know what you have to do at the end?
Son: ... A big fight?
Me: no, you go for a walk.
Son: ... What?
Me: You go for a walk and have a chat with a ghost
Son: *confused look* ...What?
Me: Yeah. That's what I said.
Son: (thinks for 5 seconds) Dad, that's silly. You can play Skylanders on my XBox instead, if you want. It has monsters
Me: Thanks buddy.

Just wanted to share that. I think it sums it up nicely.

Bye all.... 

He he. I think, your son is pretty cool

From the mouths of babes the truth flows.
Just got in. Hope you all are well.