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nightcobra

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 points jessica stated:

- no starvation scenario

- reunion with LI possible

- rebuilding relays also possible


extrapolating......

If and IF the relays were destroyed, then this would mean they'd have to rebuild the relays in under a week (or a month at best with dextro supplies) to satisfy these conditions, i highly doubt such a feat is possible.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 07 avril 2012 - 09:30 .


#33227
Sammuthegreat

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Also interesting:

DrivingBj ‏ @DavidWatkins11
@JessicaMerizan
 Sometime last week @masseffect announced we would hear big news at #PAX. Will we hear about anything else this weekend?

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@DavidWatkins11
 no we never said that. We said we were making an announcement in April. PAX is a celebration of gaming.



More to come perhaps?


EDIT: Darn formatting...

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 07 avril 2012 - 09:34 .


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someone should tell them that their vague half-answers causes people to misconstrue what they say. They need to give us some absolute answers to set the record straight

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Rifneno wrote...

Oh, and that "The Truth" DLC everyone wrote off as garbage? Go back and look at the "fake" screenshot that came with it. A bunch of multiplayer race/class combos were part of it. Geth engineer/infiltrator, Batarian solder/sentinel, Krogan battlemaster, Asari justicar. Now look at the ones we're getting Resurgence DLC. Geth engineer/infiltrator, Batarian solder/sentinel, Krogan battlemaster, Asari justicar. WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

Those who fell holding the line were weak.


Back because I wanted to check on that DLC leak but yeah that is pretty interesting.
I think whatever they were planning, or not :), has really blown up in their faces though.

Rifneno wrote...
Those who fell holding the line were weak.


They'll need a crowbar to get money out of my wallet now. So I guess I consider myself more of a suicide pilot under this metaphor :pinched:

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Cucobr wrote...

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So if im reading that correctly..... Nothing is true, Everything is permited........... Shepard is an assassin and harby is templar!! i knew it!

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@sammuthe great.

I mentioned this, eversince jessica's statement.

Shepard is located on the exploding citadel.
Crew are getting their holiday on, in para para pradise.
Mass relays blown up.

Reuniting with crew or LI...im-f***ing-possible. at least by taking the endings for what they seem to be.

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Can't use edit. what i actually troed to say was.

Props for noticing :)

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Sammuthegreat wrote...

Also interesting:

DrivingBj ‏ @DavidWatkins11
@JessicaMerizan
 Sometime last week @masseffect announced we would hear big news at #PAX. Will we hear about anything else this weekend?

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@DavidWatkins11
 no we never said that. We said we were making an announcement in April. PAX is a celebration of gaming.



More to come perhaps?


EDIT: Darn formatting...


They did the same in March and never denied there wouldn't be anything huge at PAX.
All this teasing for aparently nothing is making me dizy.

"Maybe"-answers are bs and this is what twitter is being used for right now.
Or, as some on the BSN have already put it, if you take the @masseffect & co tweets as your source of info, you're looking into static for info, aka wasting time.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 07 avril 2012 - 09:52 .


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Cucobr wrote...

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GBGriffin is gonna have one hard time soaking this in.

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SPACE HAMSTER IS EVERY ONE"S MASTER!

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Cucobr wrote...

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Holy speculations Garrus (since he is like Batman)...

To be honest I'm not that happy to wait for Mass Effect 4 to know what really happened, if they ever do a Mass Effect 4...

Strange way to end a trilogy in my opinion.

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[quote]DrivingBj ‏ @DavidWatkins11
@JessicaMerizan
 Sometime last week @masseffect announced we would hear big news at #PAX. Will we hear about anything else this weekend?

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@DavidWatkins11
 no we never said that. We said we were making an announcement in April. PAX is a celebration of gaming.[/quote]
[/quote]

Woa, this, definately more to come...

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

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So if im reading that correctly..... Nothing is true, Everything is permited........... Shepard is an assassin and harby is templar!! i knew it!



I lol'd

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NikolaiShade wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

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Holy speculations Garrus (since he is like Batman)...

To be honest I'm not that happy to wait for Mass Effect 4 to know what really happened, if they ever do a Mass Effect 4...

Strange way to end a trilogy in my opinion.


After this ending fiasco.. the only thing that makes sense is a possibility of mass effect 4.. or some huge me3 expansion. I don't see how they can fill in the plot holes.

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balance5050 wrote...

I'm glad you're seeing the big picture, you saw this video from Comic Con 2011 right?
http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s


You mean the "ending will be on the disc" comment? Yeah. Not sure what to make of it. On one hand it doesn't do IT any favors to say the ending IS there, but on the other hand why would he say that at all? It's like going up to a security guard at a store and saying "I didn't shoplift anything!" out of the blue. Maybe they did intend it to be on the disc and they just didn't have it finished by release so they released it instead of holding back for content that'd be locked anyway. I don't know.

Chief Commander wrote...

I´m just glad that when the IT is confirmed I can say "I held the line against all odds and when our numbers were decreasing by the day." Just wait and see :)


Amen, brother!

Falloutwarfare wrote...

So if im reading that correctly..... Nothing is true, Everything is permited........... Shepard is an assassin and harby is templar!! i knew it!


... Yeah, that sounds about right.

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[quote]EpicTacoProject wrote...

[quote]DrivingBj ‏ @DavidWatkins11
@JessicaMerizan
 Sometime last week @masseffect announced we would hear big news at #PAX. Will we hear about anything else this weekend?

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@DavidWatkins11
 no we never said that. We said we were making an announcement in April. PAX is a celebration of gaming.[/quote]
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Woa, this, definately more to come...

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More MP DLC probably.

#33243
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balance5050 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

-snip-


I'm glad you're seeing the big picture, you saw this video from Comic Con 2011 right?
http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s 

*Spark of hope re-ignites the dying flame that is me.

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[quote]Chief Commander wrote...

[quote]EpicTacoProject wrote...

[quote]DrivingBj ‏ @DavidWatkins11
@JessicaMerizan
 Sometime last week @masseffect announced we would hear big news at #PAX. Will we hear about anything else this weekend?

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@DavidWatkins11
 no we never said that. We said we were making an announcement in April. PAX is a celebration of gaming.[/quote]
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Woa, this, definately more to come...

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More MP DLC probably.

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I honestly can't believe that they avoided as much AT pax, and mike gamble stated they had some huge news for us at pax, Cant imagine this was the multiplayer announcement considering the sheer rage of the majority of fans over the ending.  Guess until "sometime in april" we just have to wait and wonder, but you can be sure fans will be livid if it is another multiplayer annoucement.

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

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GBGriffin is gonna have one hard time soaking this in.


I will? This is just more of the same; they don't want to alienate the IT believers who are giving them way more credit than they deserve.

Again, Merizan is a PR rep, not a dev. Her job is to appease people, downplay some of the anger and disappointment,  and keep the faith alive. Remember, she thought the Normandy crashed on Earth, then maybe Mars. I haven't put much stock in her claims lately, but, again, the IT relies on accepting "evidence" that supports it and rejecting everything else as false.

So, go to town with your speculation. I do find it humorous that you felt the need to single me out in your response, when I have avoided posting in the thread since last night and was content to keep on avoiding it.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 07 avril 2012 - 10:02 .


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[quote]EpicTacoProject wrote...

[quote]DrivingBj ‏ @DavidWatkins11
@JessicaMerizan
 Sometime last week @masseffect announced we would hear big news at #PAX. Will we hear about anything else this weekend?

Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@DavidWatkins11
 no we never said that. We said we were making an announcement in April. PAX is a celebration of gaming.[/quote]
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Woa, this, definately more to come...

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No, that is not what it says. Read again.
As far as the statement goes, the Extended DLC could be their big announcement. And no, they wouldn't have said it then, otherwise that would be a bad marketing strategy - you don't tell that you have nothing in story.

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Well at the moment they have three great games/series in the following conditions (if I'm not wrong):

Dragon Age - maybe
Mass Effect - unstable
The Old Republic - good

#33248
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 :whistle::whistle::whistle:

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UrgedDuke wrote...

someone should tell them that their vague half-answers causes people to misconstrue what they say. They need to give us some absolute answers to set the record straight


They're not going to do that. As much as we may want them to, they're not going to "spoil" the new ending. In honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if they're still writing how to "clarify" their endings.

I look forward to knowing:
  • Why Harbinger left Shepard to live
  • How Anderson managed to get to the control room first when he followed Shep
  • Why Anderson didn't wait
  • Why the "Starchild" saved Shepard and gave him/her the option to break the cycle at all
  • Why Joker turned and ran from the fight completely breaking character
  • How my squad got onboard the Normandy
  • How Shep survived getting blown up
  • How the solar system survived the Relay explosion
  • How the "aliens" will survive on that new Eden
Of course, the vast majority of those can be explained with the Indoctrination Theory but I can't wait to see how they explain those without I.T.... 

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

 points jessica stated:

- no starvation scenario

- reunion with LI possible

- rebuilding relays also possible


extrapolating......

If and IF the relays were destroyed, then this would mean they'd have to rebuild the relays in under a week (or a month at best with dextro supplies) to satisfy these conditions, i highly doubt such a feat is possible.


Hence, there be more going on here than we be thinkin.

schneeland wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

[...]

I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.

If you chose Control with low EMS or chose Destroy with any EMS, go to 1.
If you chose Control with high EMS, go to 2
If you Chose Synthesis, go to 3.

[...]


Just want to say: I really like this and it would darn well fit as a suitable and epic ending to mass effect.

 

Thank you, I pride myself on my work.


If anyone else wants to read it, I'll stick the link in my sig.

But for now... 11th down from the top; 
http://social.biowar...ex/9727423/1313 

lex0r11 wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

Also, I just realized something.

What was eezo and the mass effect itself if not Space Magic™?


But didn't they at least try to explain those two realistically? 
I think they did a good job of describing Mass Effect's 'magic powers' for their classes.

 

Yes, but not only is it firmly established with the constraints of the story, not coming out of left field like SPAAAACE MAGIIIC does, it ALSO has a scientific precedent, elements with extremely low atomic weights, elements constitsintg primarily of neutrons, which Eezo is stablished to be, ect.

blooregard wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

My thought was that he just didn't want to say "how observant our fanbase is"...that would have completely given everything away. so he gave it a thought. Hence, the "um"



Yeah I always figure when somebody avoids a yes or no question the way they did it usually indicates that its a yes.


After all has anyone noticed that bioware has most  of everyone else thought they'd do with the ending from teh 4th option to the "rescue" DLCs yet they haven't once talked in detail about the indoctrination theory

 

Could also just be the guy being nervous, I'm a former debate champ and I can state with certainty, people go "um" alot when theyre nervous and doing public speaking.

blooregard wrote...

Say did they ever blatently come out and say that "The Truth" DLC was false? I know they did that for "Terminator" and "Mass Shift" but did they ever say that about "The Truth"?

  The Truth was never debunked beyond stating "Do you really think we'd call something "The Truth"? And considering Resurgence.. well "The Truth" seems alot more likely, now don't it?

Just remember Mulder, the Truth is out there.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 07 avril 2012 - 10:07 .