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[Dwailing]

So, I need a summary. Are we frakked?

[Arian Dynas]

Also, for the purposes of ze theory makink und funnery, I'll quote myself and give people hope by reiterating my theories on human greed and PR.

Arian Dynas wrote...

McWhitey3 wrote...

I know wishful thinking but wouldn't it be great if next weeks MP DLC turns out to have something related to the endings or IT... I mean why call it the Resurgence Pack? Resurgence = rise again

Considering it's exactly what the Truth DLC leak indicated, yeah that's kind of the implication. In the end it makes sense.

Let's assume you're EA, you have an ending leak, Bioware wants to re-write the ending to keep it memorable, but they know, as well as you, they don't have the time to. You can't push back te date again, you did that already, and pushing back dates is sheer suicide PR wise, it makes you look bad, unprofessional.You want the ending to be memorable, it gets people interested, and interested people pay money. What do you do? You play for time of course!

Bioware writes up this little half-assed ending and slips in hints to make it clear "Hey something's not right here." it's simple, fast and easy to do by compasrsion to writing and coding an entire new ending. And of course, since the ending is "not right" and therefore a hallucination, finding out about it doesn't matter, "you don't need to know about that."

They attempt to make it as obvious as possible something is not right here, even going in so far as to show a breathing scene defying all logic before, showing obvious inconsistencies and numerous other things, they get disappointed, upset and bothered by the fact that that it's lost on some fans.

So then, the fans are in uproar, EA badly underestimated the backlash of this, expecting polite theory tossing until the summer when they can release the DLC and be hailed as heroes.

They find thet have 3 options.

1. Tell the fans to ****** off and defend their artistic integrity, saying "this is all you get". They wont, and already haven't done this, appealing to simple base greed, EA knows this could kill the franchise, and they, being rather fond of money won't kill a golden goose like Bioware. When it takes a minimal amount of effort and money to do things, like "fixing" the ending, the smart thing is (and don't deny EA are canny, they have shown many times that they are.) to go mia culpa, admit your mistake and move on, because it ensures a returning customer base. 

2. Reveal the thing you had planned all along, which at this point would be pointless, redering the outrage pointless, making the fans feel betrayed, and failing to justify the loss of sales the outrage caused, especially when the DLC itself is not yet ready.

3 Or three, they do what they have done. Officially deny anything, make no comment about theories of any kind, allow people to speculate calmly as you look at the DLC you have planned, and cut off a bit to give the fans now, to tide them over until you bring out the real thing, keeping them interested while you do your thing, letting them know "Hey we got more planned, be patient, keep yourselves busy with Resurgence, and you'll see more later, trust us." Resurgence is free because the whole thing they had planned was free, like Cerberus network, to keep people from buying used, which in this case, even considering they have people doing returns or selling the games, they still win, since the old owners might buy another copy, they get twice the sales, and they still get something from the new users, since they need to pay for the DLC, and they still get something out of ppl buying used. So give your fans free DLC so you look apologetic, but since you planned on having it free (notice, Resurgence is only for currently registered members btw) you lose nothing, and you keep them interested while you have time to finish.

[Arian Dynas]

EDIT: Rassum frassum double post.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 08 avril 2012 - 02:41 .

[Arian Dynas]

Dwailing wrote...

So, I need a summary. Are we frakked?

Nope, read my post I just made for a brief.

[Lyria]

lex0r11 wrote...

protognosis wrote...

DuskRose wrote...

protognosis wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

protognosis wrote...

DuskRose wrote...

Bad sound is bad sound. Headphones can't change that.

And ignoreing the T in can't to make a point is something that can be changed.

That "t" sound could simply be the start of "tell"

You're right...gd.   I guess I'm just grasping at straws emergency induction ports! 

-hugs It's OK, I know the feeling.

thanks.  -hugs- thanks.  

Aaaaawwwww, you two.

Can't hold back anymore.

Thanks man!  

[IronSabbath88]

What does everyone think about Weekes' answers?

He seems pretty intent on saying that stuff was intended to be the way it is.. but I dunno.. it seems like all the devs are just saying what we want to hear.

[n00bsauce2010]

Derp derp!

[savagejuicebox]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

What does everyone think about Weekes' answers?

He seems pretty intent on saying that stuff was intended to be the way it is.. but I dunno.. it seems like all the devs are just saying what we want to hear.

What specifically are you talking about?

[IronSabbath88]

savagejuicebox wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

What does everyone think about Weekes' answers?

He seems pretty intent on saying that stuff was intended to be the way it is.. but I dunno.. it seems like all the devs are just saying what we want to hear.

What specifically are you talking about?

Just in general, the interview on the forum here.

[RealStyli]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

What does everyone think about Weekes' answers?

He seems pretty intent on saying that stuff was intended to be the way it is.. but I dunno.. it seems like all the devs are just saying what we want to hear.

It doesn't really affect the indoctrination theory as far as I can see. Most of it was about the rest of the game and previous games. The bits about the Relays and FTL travel were comforting, as was them hopefully clarifying why Joker would flee.

I thought it was interesting but he's unfortunately only one writer so it's hard to know what to make. A lot may be his own spin on things. At least he seems very honest.

Modifié par RealStyli, 08 avril 2012 - 03:00 .

[Savber100]

RealStyli wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

What does everyone think about Weekes' answers?

He seems pretty intent on saying that stuff was intended to be the way it is.. but I dunno.. it seems like all the devs are just saying what we want to hear.

It doesn't really affect the indoctrination theory as far as I can see. Most of it was about the rest of the game and previous games. The bits about the Relays and FTL travel were comforting, as was them hopefully clarifying why Joker would flee.

I thought it was interesting but he's unfortunately only one writer so it's hard to know what to make. A lot may be his own spin on things. At least he seems very honest.

Also Weekes did not write or have any input for the ending. 

I suspect that only Casey Hudson and Mac Walters will have the ultimate say  on whether the indoctrination theory holds weight. 

[RealStyli]

Savber100 wrote...



Also Weekes did not write or have any input for the ending. 

I suspect that only Casey Hudson and Mac Walters will have the ultimate say  on whether the indoctrination theory holds weight. 

I just really hope Drew Karpyshyn is off somewhere in the sun, with a cocktail in hand, laughing his ass off at this whole debacle.

[Lyria]

He's probably doing calibrations....

[Eshaye]

protognosis wrote...

He's probably doing calibrations....

In SWTOR.

[Lyria]

RealStyli wrote...

Savber100 wrote...



Also Weekes did not write or have any input for the ending. 

I suspect that only Casey Hudson and Mac Walters will have the ultimate say  on whether the indoctrination theory holds weight. 

I just really hope Drew Karpyshyn is off somewhere in the sun, with siping a cocktail through an emergency induction port in hand, laughing his ass off at this whole debacle.

there.  fixed your post. 

[balance5050]

 What do you guys make of this?

http://forums.someth...8#post402359506 

[RealStyli]

protognosis wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Savber100 wrote...



Also Weekes did not write or have any input for the ending. 

I suspect that only Casey Hudson and Mac Walters will have the ultimate say  on whether the indoctrination theory holds weight. 

I just really hope Drew Karpyshyn is off somewhere in the sun, with siping a cocktail through an emergency induction port in hand, laughing his ass off at this whole debacle.

there.  fixed your post. 

Thanks. It really needed that...? 

[RealStyli]

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this?

http://forums.someth...8#post402359506 

IronSabbath88 already asked us what we thought about the Weekes thing.

[lex0r11]

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this?

http://forums.someth...8#post402359506 

HATE how many times "resources" comes up for everything. I would've waited another year, the money can't be the problem with EA.

And from those paraphrases, they know about their own plotholes very well. DAMN.

[Dwailing]

RealStyli wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this?

http://forums.someth...8#post402359506 

IronSabbath88 already asked us what we thought about the Weekes thing.

All I can say is, I agree with the interviewer's opinion.  Weekes should have been lead writter.   Although, I do sort of disagree with him on Vega.  I actually like the guy.

Edit: Also, I really hope that there will be a patch that fixes the Ken and Gabby dialogue.  I still haven't played a game with Ashley dead, so it hasn't affected me, but I do have one with Kaidan that I will import and I want the dialogue with those two.

Modifié par Dwailing, 08 avril 2012 - 03:42 .

[RealStyli]

Vega was better than I expected. He wasn't a complete Jersey Shore reject. He reminded me of Grunt a bit. I had him in my squad a few times.

[Dwailing]

RealStyli wrote...

Vega was better than I expected. He wasn't a complete Jersey Shore reject. He reminded me of Grunt a bit. I had him in my squad a few times.

Ooh, someone who likes Grunt.  I was beginning to think I was the only one.

[DirtyPhoenix]

I still can't wrap my head around how the destroy red wave can kill Shepard because it disables his/her cybernetics yet leave Garrus unharmed, he too had an awful lot of implants stuffed into him.

[RealStyli]

Dwailing wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Vega was better than I expected. He wasn't a complete Jersey Shore reject. He reminded me of Grunt a bit. I had him in my squad a few times.

Ooh, someone who likes Grunt.  I was beginning to think I was the only one.

I even have a Grunt figurine on my shelf!

I think it's because I like dogs and, I don't mean it in a bad way but, Grunt is like a guard dog!