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[DirtyPhoenix]

DuskRose wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Vega was better than I expected. He wasn't a complete Jersey Shore reject. He reminded me of Grunt a bit. I had him in my squad a few times.

Ooh, someone who likes Grunt.  I was beginning to think I was the only one.

I like Grunt and Vega.  There's actually no one I dislike.

I like Grunt too, though not nearly as awesome as Wrex, but fits in the role of your protege. Loved the final conversation with him.

[Dwailing]

DuskRose wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Vega was better than I expected. He wasn't a complete Jersey Shore reject. He reminded me of Grunt a bit. I had him in my squad a few times.

Ooh, someone who likes Grunt.  I was beginning to think I was the only one.

I like Grunt and Vega.  There's actually no one I dislike.

Same here, I love them all.  I love some of them slightly more than others, but there's no one I actually dislike.  At first I sort of disliked Javik, but after the scene with his memory shard, I felt kind of bad for him.

[Eshaye]

Dwailing wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this?

http://forums.someth...8#post402359506 

IronSabbath88 already asked us what we thought about the Weekes thing.

All I can say is, I agree with the interviewer's opinion.  Weekes should have been lead writter.   Although, I do sort of disagree with him on Vega.  I actually like the guy.

Edit: Also, I really hope that there will be a patch that fixes the Ken and Gabby dialogue.  I still haven't played a game with Ashley dead, so it hasn't affected me, but I do have one with Kaidan that I will import and I want the dialogue with those two.

He said Vega grew on him, I think that means he likes him, grudgindingly maybe because he wanted an ME2 squadmate instead, and I agree with him on that, though I like Vega just fine I would have liked someone like Miranda along. 

[Dwailing]

OK, time to shower and head to bed. See you all tomorrow. Hold the line! For Marauder Shields and Jessica Merizan!

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Dwailing wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Vega was better than I expected. He wasn't a complete Jersey Shore reject. He reminded me of Grunt a bit. I had him in my squad a few times.

Ooh, someone who likes Grunt.  I was beginning to think I was the only one.

Hey don't leave me out. I had reservations when I first heard of Grunt, Beeing a huge Wrex fan I could not see how Grunt could live up to him and he seemed to be to much of a stereotypical Krogan..

But boy was I wrong. While he was certainly nothing like Wrex and not as good if you ask me, Grunts search for purpose really hit home with me and made him interesting.

[Dwailing]

Eshaye wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 What do you guys make of this?

http://forums.someth...8#post402359506 

IronSabbath88 already asked us what we thought about the Weekes thing.

All I can say is, I agree with the interviewer's opinion.  Weekes should have been lead writter.   Although, I do sort of disagree with him on Vega.  I actually like the guy.

Edit: Also, I really hope that there will be a patch that fixes the Ken and Gabby dialogue.  I still haven't played a game with Ashley dead, so it hasn't affected me, but I do have one with Kaidan that I will import and I want the dialogue with those two.

He said Vega grew on him, I think that means he likes him, grudgindingly maybe because he wanted an ME2 squadmate instead, and I agree with him on that, though I like Vega just fine I would have liked someone like Miranda along. 

Yeah, I did read that.  I'll admit, in some ways I would have liked to have another ME2 squadmate, but I didn't regret having James, even if it meant I didn't get one of the old team.

[steve3194]

https://twitter.com/...830609370652672

Don't no what to make of these tweets.

I want an actual good ending not ways to interpret one

[RealStyli]

Dwailing wrote...

OK, time to shower and head to bed. See you all tomorrow. Hold the line! For Marauder Shields and Jessica Merizan!

Oh jeez, it's 5am here. Mass Effect always keeps me up late even when I'm not playing it.



I should go.

[Eshaye]

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, I did read that.  I'll admit, in some ways I would have liked to have another ME2 squadmate, but I didn't regret having James, even if it meant I didn't get one of the old team.

Well it's hard to regret James, the guy is adorable. 

[lex0r11]

Eshaye wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, I did read that.  I'll admit, in some ways I would have liked to have another ME2 squadmate, but I didn't regret having James, even if it meant I didn't get one of the old team.

Well it's hard to regret James, the guy is adorable. 

[mufasa121]

lex0r that is just amazing haha

[DirtyPhoenix]

When does this hearing hum conversation occur?

[evisneffo]

I saw the discussions with Griffin about ten pages back. I hope that's not the kind of thing that you're calling #1 trollery, because he seemed to be fairly reasonable, and I'd like to think you guys are reasonable people.

[lex0r11]

Eshaye wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, I did read that.  I'll admit, in some ways I would have liked to have another ME2 squadmate, but I didn't regret having James, even if it meant I didn't get one of the old team.

Well it's hard to regret James, the guy is adorable. 

One more.

[Eshaye]

Lawlz

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

So people how many pages do you think this thread will be by the time the summer dlc hits?

[Spartas Husky]

No idea. Although to be honest the zhitty "clarification" dlc I think disprooves the indoctrination theory.
Either EA just wants to turn ME into another final fantasy, or bf game that they can shell out every so often.

Or we gave BIoware too much credit and not even them could have come up with Indoc theory in their best day.

Should have stayed with Microsoft Studios. Making deals with EA are along the lines of faustian bargains. They never end well.

[blooregard]

So has anyone here seen Jessica Merizan's tweets tonight? Any thoughts on it or are people overreacting again?

[Big Bad]

Not to be all judgmental or anything, but there has plenty of dickishness to go around in this thread - and not just from the anti-IT people.

[Spartas Husky]

Big Bad wrote...

Not to be all judgmental or anything, but there has plenty of dickishness to go around in this thread - and not just from the anti-IT people.

lol I had a brain fart. I was like  "what the hell does Information technology has to do with anything.... oh wait I get it"

Massive brain fart lol

[Big Bad]

Spartas Husky wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Not to be all judgmental or anything, but there has plenty of dickishness to go around in this thread - and not just from the anti-IT people.

lol I had a brain fart. I was like  "what the hell does Information technology has to do with anything.... oh wait I get it"

Massive brain fart lol

Wait. . .this thread isn't about information technology?

I'm so confused!

[GBGriffin]

DuskRose wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

I saw the discussions with Griffin about ten pages back. I hope that's not the kind of thing that you're calling #1 trollery, because he seemed to be fairly reasonable, and I'd like to think you guys are reasonable people.

Nah, Griffin is a special type of troll, and is generally likeable

This is actually one of the best compliments I've ever received, and I thank you for it

I like to think that I'm generally reasonable, but I do get caught up in emotion, and I think everyone does over an issue like this that matters very deeply to all of us. In general, though, I try to avoid loaded one-liners, insults, and namecalling because that is what I personally consider to be trolling. Even if my posts come across as trolling, my primary motivation is just to debate and discuss why the IT isn't the perfect solution people make it out to be.

Now, if I had to plot a rough outline of where I'm coming from with regard to the IT and "trolling" / arguing against it, my posting histroy could be summed up as: upset over the ending -> sad over the ending -> hopeful over the ending after IT was first being discussed -> questioning IT after Final Hours -> dismissing IT in light of the "rushed product / bad writing and design" theory -> trying to hold actual discussions over the ending only to be met with hostility -> venting frustration at the theory and those trying to promote it as the only viable and acceptable solution.

Admittingly, I can get carried away with that last bit. For those of you unfamiliar with my earlier posts, though, I have always held the belief, and stated in many threads, that if the IT keeps you "holding the line" and lets you enjoy the series, then believe in it all you want (I'd just urge you to exercise caution and brace yourself in case it isn't supported). Personally, the IT actually allowed me to pick up the game again for my NG+...even though Final Hours was released during the middle of that, it continued to give people hope, and I was fine with that..

My three primary issues with the pro-IT movement are this: dismissing other theories (namely, the game was rushed) because the IT is the ONLY solution, claiming that Destroy is the only ending that should result in additonal content, and then insulting people who disagree or argue against the theory (I've been called an idiot and an unbeliever, which...seems a little extreme to me).  

Basically, I take the stance with IT that I do with religion: if it works for you, that's fine...just please don't get confrontational with me or other people about it. If anything, I'd say the vast majority of any of my "hostile" posting on my part could be described as reactive, not proactive.

So, again, to reiterate: if IT lets you enjoy the series, then believe in it with cautious optimism that they will support it. Picking fights over it and resorting to attacks such as name-calling, sarcasm, and, well, trolling tactics in general are just negative actions, and, again, I tend to react pretty strongly to those.

As to whether or not they actually do support the IT, I'd be fine with it on the condition that all 3 endings get approximately the same amount of content, not just two game over screens for two of them. I know that is probably not the general consensus for the execution, but people have argued with me that it's the proper way to implement the IT, giving the player a game over screen and forcing them to reload and pick Destroy if they pick the "wrong" choices. I will always pick Destroy in my playthroughs, but I've heard some pretty well-made arguments for picking the other two endings, and I feel that punishing those players with a game over-> reload scenario is just...wrong, imo.

[blooregard]

GBGriffin wrote...

DuskRose wrote...

evisneffo wrote...

I saw the discussions with Griffin about ten pages back. I hope that's not the kind of thing that you're calling #1 trollery, because he seemed to be fairly reasonable, and I'd like to think you guys are reasonable people.

Nah, Griffin is a special type of troll, and is generally likeable

This is actually one of the best compliments I've ever received, and I thank you for it

I like to think that I'm generally reasonable, but I do get caught up in emotion, and I think everyone does over an issue like this that matters very deeply to all of us. In general, though, I try to avoid loaded one-liners, insults, and namecalling because that is what I personally consider to be trolling. Even if my posts come across as trolling, my primary motivation is just to debate and discuss why the IT isn't the perfect solution people make it out to be.

Now, if I had to plot a rough outline of where I'm coming from with regard to the IT and "trolling" / arguing against it, my posting histroy could be summed up as: upset over the ending -> sad over the ending -> hopeful over the ending after IT was first being discussed -> questioning IT after Final Hours -> dismissing IT in light of the "rushed product / bad writing and design" theory -> trying to hold actual discussions over the ending only to be met with hostility -> venting frustration at the theory and those trying to promote it as the only viable and acceptable solution.

Admittingly, I can get carried away with that last bit. For those of you unfamiliar with my earlier posts, though, I have always held the belief, and stated in many threads, that if the IT keeps you "holding the line" and lets you enjoy the series, then believe in it all you want (I'd just urge you to exercise caution and brace yourself in case it isn't supported). Personally, the IT actually allowed me to pick up the game again for my NG+...even though Final Hours was released during the middle of that, it continued to give people hope, and I was fine with that..

My three primary issues with the pro-IT movement are this: dismissing other theories (namely, the game was rushed) because the IT is the ONLY solution, claiming that Destroy is the only ending that should result in additonal content, and then insulting people who disagree or argue against the theory (I've been called an idiot and an unbeliever, which...seems a little extreme to me).  

Basically, I take the stance with IT that I do with religion: if it works for you, that's fine...just please don't get confrontational with me or other people about it. If anything, I'd say the vast majority of any of my "hostile" posting on my part could be described as reactive, not proactive.

So, again, to reiterate: if IT lets you enjoy the series, then believe in it with cautious optimism that they will support it. Picking fights over it and resorting to attacks such as name-calling, sarcasm, and, well, trolling tactics in general are just negative actions, and, again, I tend to react pretty strongly to those.

As to whether or not they actually do support the IT, I'd be fine with it on the condition that all 3 endings get approximately the same amount of content, not just two game over screens for two of them. I know that is probably not the general consensus for the execution, but people have argued with me that it's the proper way to implement the IT, giving the player a game over screen and forcing them to reload and pick Destroy if they pick the "wrong" choices. I will always pick Destroy in my playthroughs, but I've heard some pretty well-made arguments for picking the other two endings, and I feel that punishing those players with a game over-> reload scenario is just...wrong, imo.

I find it kinda strange when ever your name is mentioned you appear.