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[nullobject]

Arian Dynas wrote...

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

nullobject wrote...

So Arian, to summarize:

a) The "Truth DLC" post on 4chan was legit. (Why do you think this?)

Bioware originally intended the Starchild ending to be real, but decided to alter it after the leak. Releasing the Starchild ending as originally scripted was a desperate play for time measure meant to give Bioware space to work out the "real" ending. Bioware actually had no idea what the final ending would be on release day, other than maybe a broad outline, and working out the "true" ending was to occupy the bulk of post-release effort. The reason they have chosen to use every public statement to imply that the released endings were the actual endings is...?

A). Yes. Same place, potentially same source that leaked LoTSB and Arrival, and the description for multiplayer stuff (down to the names of the classes chosen, their rather interesting descriptions, Krogan Battlemaster? Asari Justicar?) was spot on.  
If that much of the info was correct already, then either it was a very lucky guess indeed, or he has some inside info, Saint Occam is with me on this one. 

That's because the 4chan post copy and pasted details of a genuine leak about the multiplayer from Facebook. You did know that, right? The Facebook post was a genuine leak about the multiplayer pack. Then someone else posted that on 4chan and added some extra stuff about "The Truth" DLC.

Really now? Ok then. Give me proof, I want to see links.

Here is the screenshot of the Facebook post



Here is a screenshot of the 4chan post that includes that image, plus some extra made up info:

[GBGriffin]

@protognosis

I love no one >:|

Also, that comment also didn't make sense because he actually singled me out in his reply, yet somehow I was the one in love? I understand it was just bait, but...really?

[Arian Dynas]

Yeah looked at that myself, it seems the post was made to facebook, via reddit, and also, judging by the redditor's posts, contained the same text as the 4chan post, in addition, Resurgence was free, he's right about that too.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Just noticed something..

sometimes the godchild says "you have hope, more than you think" and sometimes it says "you have choice, more than you deserve" what does that depend upon?

[Arian Dynas]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just noticed something..

sometimes the godchild says "you have hope, more than you think" and sometimes it says "you have choice, more than you deserve" what does that depend upon?

Low EMS

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just noticed something..

sometimes the godchild says "you have hope, more than you think" and sometimes it says "you have choice, more than you deserve" what does that depend upon?

I thnk thats dependant on if you pick the "polite" dialogue option or the "rude" option when responding to Catalyst. (The top option or the bottom option.)

[GBGriffin]

Since EMS affects the endings, I'd be inclined to suggest that. It'll be nice when/if they clear up some if these mechanics, especially the ones around EMS.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Always thought it was strange how EMS affects your dialogue with the Catalyst. Because why would the godchild care how many ships you have, or how strong you are war-wise? Since there's no option to just shoot the reapers dead anyway.

[nullobject]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Yeah looked at that myself, it seems the post was made to facebook, via reddit, and also, judging by the redditor's posts, contained the same text as the 4chan post, in addition, Resurgence was free, he's right about that too.

Made to facebook via reddit?

Both reddit and 4chan posts contained screenshots of someones earlier facebook post, which only discussed the new multiplayer classes/races.

The only details that were correct in the 4chan post were about the multiplayer classes and races. It said the multiplayer stuff would be included in "The Truth" DLC. It isn't. Resurgence is stand alone.

It predicted that 'The Truth" DLC would be free, but predicting that any ending fixing DLC would be free is not a major achievement.

Face it, there is nothing in the 4chan post that was correct other than the details taken from the geniune Facebook leak.

[GBGriffin]

It's certainly strange, but I guess they needed to have something in place as a measure to determine the outcomes. It would have been nice if it was a series of choices rather than a number, but, again, I suspect that was poor design.

[Lyria]

GBGriffin wrote...

@protognosis

I love no one >:|

Also, that comment also didn't make sense because he actually singled me out in his reply, yet somehow I was the one in love? I understand it was just bait, but...really?

Ha. Y'alls love is unrequited.

I kid.

It was bait. But amusing in the context of how y'all almost always seem to reply to each other.

also I think you meant to say, "I don't love anyone, Earth clan."

Lolz.

What do you think about that video from last year where it sounds like the guy is saying he "can't" guarantee the ending would be on the disk due to how they are framing the story.

It could also be "can" the audio is a**.

 

[Arian Dynas]

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Yeah looked at that myself, it seems the post was made to facebook, via reddit, and also, judging by the redditor's posts, contained the same text as the 4chan post, in addition, Resurgence was free, he's right about that too.

Made to facebook via reddit?

Both reddit and 4chan posts contained screenshots of someones earlier facebook post, which only discussed the new multiplayer classes/races.

The only details that were correct in the 4chan post were about the multiplayer classes and races. It said the multiplayer stuff would be included in "The Truth" DLC. It isn't. Resurgence is stand alone.

It predicted that 'The Truth" DLC would be free, but predicting that any ending fixing DLC would be free is not a major achievement.

Face it, there is nothing in the 4chan post that was correct other than the details taken from the geniune Facebook leak.

You're assuming. If I am proven wrong in august, you can crow about it then. Otherwise, I'm with Mulder, the Truth is out there.

[GBGriffin]

I haven't seen it, but I've read about it. Again, I'm not exactly thrilled if that's the case and I paid $80 for an incomplete game. Planned IT future release or not, having to wait for the true end to the game is just aggravating. I've sold off most of my other games, so playing an incomplete one until they decide it's time to complete it isn't fun.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Peter DeLury ‏ @PeterDeLury
@JessicaMerizan In one of your other tweets you mentioned different levels of interpretation. Im curious what you mean by that statement

Jessica Merizan Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@PeterDeLury it means I will never confirm or deny indoctrination b/c we don't want to tell you how to interpret the end.

Oh great.

[Lyria]

I agree.
I know we agree on something. Having to wait for any ending dlc is BS. Its not like Arrival dlc which was not necessary for understanding the plot and was not planned from the start.
Sucks about your games man. I traded two off to get ME3. Maybe that's why cling to IT so much. I want to think I got my money's worth but so far I haven't, not until ending DLC is out.
The fact they can just release the dlc within months, and the guy seeks to say the ending isn't on the disk, seems to feed the idea that the ending was planned as dlc.
I'm hoping against hope that dlc is 4-6 hours of content. Maybe an actual battle for Earth.

[nullobject]

Arian Dynas wrote...

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Yeah looked at that myself, it seems the post was made to facebook, via reddit, and also, judging by the redditor's posts, contained the same text as the 4chan post, in addition, Resurgence was free, he's right about that too.

Made to facebook via reddit?

Both reddit and 4chan posts contained screenshots of someones earlier facebook post, which only discussed the new multiplayer classes/races.

The only details that were correct in the 4chan post were about the multiplayer classes and races. It said the multiplayer stuff would be included in "The Truth" DLC. It isn't. Resurgence is stand alone.

It predicted that 'The Truth" DLC would be free, but predicting that any ending fixing DLC would be free is not a major achievement.

Face it, there is nothing in the 4chan post that was correct other than the details taken from the geniune Facebook leak.

You're assuming.

I'm stating facts. What did I post that was an assumption?

The only nitpick you could make is that "the only details that are correct" should read "the only details which can be proven to be correct or false AT THIS TIME")

It is undeniable that of the claims made in the 4chan post that can be confirmed now; the ones that are true all from the Facebook post (new multiplayer classes), and all the ones that are false didn't (new multiplayer stuff will be included in "The Truth" DLC)

[GBGriffin]

Well, I sold most of my games for different reasons. I might try DA:O again; I never finished it because I didn't feel it was as good as Mass Effect, and that's why this ordeal has been difficult for ne. To me, Mass Effect has been my favorite series sine Final Fantasy declined in quality; I always weighed other games, especially RPGs, against this series. I'd like to be able to do that again.

[Arian Dynas]

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

nullobject wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Yeah looked at that myself, it seems the post was made to facebook, via reddit, and also, judging by the redditor's posts, contained the same text as the 4chan post, in addition, Resurgence was free, he's right about that too.

Made to facebook via reddit?

Both reddit and 4chan posts contained screenshots of someones earlier facebook post, which only discussed the new multiplayer classes/races.

The only details that were correct in the 4chan post were about the multiplayer classes and races. It said the multiplayer stuff would be included in "The Truth" DLC. It isn't. Resurgence is stand alone.

It predicted that 'The Truth" DLC would be free, but predicting that any ending fixing DLC would be free is not a major achievement.

Face it, there is nothing in the 4chan post that was correct other than the details taken from the geniune Facebook leak.

You're assuming.

I'm stating facts. What did I post that was an assumption?

The only nitpick you could make is that "the only details that are correct" should read "the only details which can be proven to be correct or false AT THIS TIME")

It is undeniable that of the claims made in the 4chan post that can be confirmed now; the ones that are true all from the Facebook post (new multiplayer classes), and all the ones that are false didn't (new multiplayer stuff will be included in "The Truth" DLC)

 as to your second buit, I refer you to my original post on my theory as to why they would cut it off and give it to us now.

[Lyria]

GBGriffin wrote...

Well, I sold most of my games for different reasons. I might try DA:O again; I never finished it because I didn't feel it was as good as Mass Effect, and that's why this ordeal has been difficult for ne. To me, Mass Effect has been my favorite series sine Final Fantasy declined in quality; I always weighed other games, especially RPGs, against this series. I'd like to be able to do that again.

Ouch. I'd definitely be mad then. Final Fantasy has declined. And MEs future looks grim. Its no longer the Grade:A series. Until we know more, its tarnished goods.

DA:O....instopped half way when a quest glitched.

That game was the first real multiple pre order dlc games for Bioware. That started to ruin games for me.

 

[Geran85]

IT is the ending for me. Unless Bioware does something spectacular, I'll pretty much ignore any additional content to the ending and assume that it was true in 'my' world.

That said, if IT does turn out to be true, wouldn't it be cool (and scary and disheartening) if having made a wrong choice that lead to complete indoctrination (any choice that is not Destroy) lead to your very own Shepard being a Harbinger-controlled villain in any additional content that is released? I'd love it, personally.

[GBGriffin]

Yeah. I bought it at launch, but once I stopped playing and the dlc started coming out, I didn't feel like starting it up again and then buying the dlc.

The PC ultimate edition, which I'm told includes all the dlc, is fairly cheap on Amazon. I'll probably pick it up soon.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

GBGriffin wrote...

Well, I sold most of my games for different reasons. I might try DA:O again; I never finished it because I didn't feel it was as good as Mass Effect, and that's why this ordeal has been difficult for ne. To me, Mass Effect has been my favorite series sine Final Fantasy declined in quality; I always weighed other games, especially RPGs, against this series. I'd like to be able to do that again.

Funny I did much the same thing. Final Fantasy IX was my favorite RPG of all time for a long time and what I measured the first Bioware game I bought against (still consider FFIX to be the greatest of the series)

My first Bioware game on the other hand was KOTOR, but the play disc was broken and as such it took ages for it to start and crashed every 2 hours or so. Still I loved it, but had to stop due to the annoyances. 6 months later I find proper copy of KOTOR and a Bioware fan was born even though I still did not consider it superior to FFIX.

Several later games like Mass Effect and Baldurs Gate 2 I do howveer hold higher than FFIX.

[Mr. Mistake]

Geran85 wrote...

IT is the ending for me. Unless Bioware does something spectacular, I'll pretty much ignore any additional content to the ending and assume that it was true in 'my' world.

That said, if IT does turn out to be true, wouldn't it be cool (and scary and disheartening) if having made a wrong choice that lead to complete indoctrination (any choice that is not Destroy) lead to your very own Shepard being a Harbinger-controlled villain in any additional content that is released? I'd love it, personally.

Plus one.

[Byakuren2009]

Mr. Mistake wrote...

Geran85 wrote...

IT is the ending for me. Unless Bioware does something spectacular, I'll pretty much ignore any additional content to the ending and assume that it was true in 'my' world.

That said, if IT does turn out to be true, wouldn't it be cool (and scary and disheartening) if having made a wrong choice that lead to complete indoctrination (any choice that is not Destroy) lead to your very own Shepard being a Harbinger-controlled villain in any additional content that is released? I'd love it, personally.

Plus one.

+1 too

[Lyria]

I'm older so FF4 and 6 were the tops for me.
Those games had endings.

The IT will either prove true or false.
Lets just hope EA doesn't troll Bioware into making a sub par product.