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[magikbbg]

If this is the case it better be a free DLC...

note after reading through some OP's I did go replay the ending and did realize  that last part did seem a bit off, like the two bad choices were paragon blue and the good choice was rengade red even the usual rigth is righteous left is bad scheme is backwards too. Also noticed first time around that the little creepy kid whenever he talked if you listen really carefully you can hear that weird harbinger style reverb in his voice thought he was a repear. Was weird when Shep says TIM was rigth after all. 

The kind of stuff he mentions seems to connect to what Javik says about Machines, where he says machines have to be destroyed after you save the geth but i disagree with him casue I spent time saving Legion... I dunno the ending was really werid. 


Maybe you guys are right. Gonna play thorugh it again to see if I missed anything. Interesting read that's for sure, I just feel pretty upset the game ended the way it did.

Modifié par magikbbg, 12 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[goofyomnivore]

I'm hoping they spring something because as is the ending is a huge black eye on a wonderful game.

[oh_saki]

blooregard wrote...

Lord Nikon 001 wrote...

prizm123 wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...



Why is it then that the only way you get Shep alive on Earth is by choosing destroy?

how do you know it is Shep? there are a lot of N7 soldiers out there

Oh Sure! Bring down the entire Hallucination Thread of Hope with one little post. Thanks...

I was also under the impression that N7 with the little red detail under it was considered to be a commander shepard trademark as every customized set of armor has the N7 and red and white stripes somewhere on it (except the kestrel armor) 

Nope, explains it in the codex. The letter designates their job classification, this case being 'N' designates Alliance Special Forces, the 7 is a numerical code that signifies proficiency based on a 1-7 scale, basically if you see N1 that's a special forces booter (newbie) but if you see N7 that's a special forces vet.

[krystalevenstar]

Warhawk7137 wrote...

Foulpancake wrote...

Whoa whoa guys, i just noticed something. On Chris Priestlies twitter someone asks if the 2 squad mates who charged the beam with you were killed and he responds

"I don't think we've revealed that yet sorry"

...if the ending was really the ending, how could that not be revealed? I mean they walked right off the normandy miraculously didn't they?

Yeah, I'm keeping an eye on Priestly, Gamble and Hudson on twitter... that one kinda threw me for a loop.

Revealed?

Either there's some master plan which is going to floor us, or they're winging it until they figure out a way to defuse the situation.

That's very telling. If the ending is the ending, then what is there to reveal...

[noobcannon]

Sierra163 wrote...

Watching the 'Shep lives' ending over and over again with a .bik player, and I swear I see the front end of a car in the background with the rubble.

holy **** you are right. finding a higher quality one and taking a screenshot so i can upload

[GSSAGE7]

Okay, I'm going to be THAT guy. If this is true, and Bioware really did make an ending pumped full of so much symbolism that they ignored, and downright destroyed the actual plot of their game, then it's damn stupid.
That's the reason that Metal Gear Solid 2 got so much crap at the time it was released! Hell, Kojima actively wanted to end the series when he made that game. What's Bioware's excuse?

[LenabotSE]

The sad thing is, there shouldn't have to be one "real" ending, given ME's emphasis on choice. So, even if there's an extra ending coming via DLC, it still means that there's only one real choice to be made during the Crucible stage.

Maybe, after waking, your team can dust you off and give you a pep talk if you opted to "give up." Harbinger freaks out that you've broken indoctrination, but Joker comes in and fires before Harbinger can wipe you out again. Shepard and company get up to the real Crucible and make an actual choice -- with the options hopefully differing from what we had in the dream state, with endings that are actually different.

But let's not get our hopes up, even if this thread is turning into a "YOU CAN'T STOP THE SIGNAL" Firefly-esque movement.

[krystalevenstar]

rogueagent6 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

I saw that too...

Where exactly is this?

[Lugaidster]

To the guys that say that how can something like this be kept secret, do remember that the breathing armor on rubble is a secret ending, continuing that would not eliminate the fact that it has been leaked, just not with enough detail...

[asilarae]

prizm123 wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...



Why is it then that the only way you get Shep alive on Earth is by choosing destroy?

how do you know it is Shep? there are a lot of N7 soldiers out there

Also, hasn't it been mentioned that the PC file with the "breathing person" ending is titled something like "ShepAlive"?

[Warhawk7137]

Warhawk7137 wrote...

My own intepretation is that the "catalyst" is 3 things in one: Harbinger, exerting as much hold as he can over Shepard; Shepard's subconscious manifestation of TIM; and Shepard's subconscious manifestation of Anderson.

The drawbacks of each choice are voiced by the other 2, essentially.  I.E., the stated drawbacks of the destroy ending are the destruction of synthetic life including the Geth and EDI (which is Harbinger playing on Shepard's fears, becasue Harbinger doesn't want the kind of harmony between synthetics and organics that Shepard has accomplished - he wants to domiante them), and the destruction of the relays (which is Shepard's subsoncious manifestation of TIM, trying to convince him that to destroy the Reapers would harm the galaxy by inhibiting technological progress, and that organics should use that power instead).  It also explains why the drawbacks for control and synthesis are essentially the same - because it's Anderson warning Shepard that, by going down either path, he will essentially lose himself, and everything he's stood for.  As for the synthesis ending, strictly speaking that's what the Reapers already are - a synthesis of organic and synthetic in a truly horrifying way.

So, there are really only 2 possible endings.  The catalyst fires and the Reapers are destroyed, or it doesn't and they aren't (because control means the Reapers win, because you can't control them).

Basically, the endings line up as follows:

Control: Arrogance.  Desire for power.  Represents the delusion that you are in control, like TIM, but you are not.  Ultimately futile.  Pride is your downfall.

Synthesis: Despair.  You give up.  Represents acceptance of the idea that organics and synthetics alike shouldn't be able to choose their own path.  Let the reapers win, and become one with them.

Destroy: Defiance.  Do what you set out to do in the first place.  Represents staying true to the belief that we ought to be able to make our own future.  Life doesn't need to be guided - it can guide itself.

Thread is moving pretty fast... anyone like this interpretation?

[asilarae]

krystalevenstar wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

I saw that too...

Where exactly is this?

In Diana Allers quarters, on her wall of creepy pictures. 

[Auresta]

noobcannon wrote...

Sierra163 wrote...

Watching the 'Shep lives' ending over and over again with a .bik player, and I swear I see the front end of a car in the background with the rubble.

holy **** you are right. finding a higher quality one and taking a screenshot so i can upload

This would be very interesting if screenied!

[oh_saki]

krystalevenstar wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

I saw that too...

Where exactly is this?

If I'm not mistaken, the memorial on the Citadel

Modifié par oh_saki, 12 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[Lugaidster]

LenabotSE wrote...

The sad thing is, there shouldn't have to be one "real" ending, given ME's emphasis on choice. So, even if there's an extra ending coming via DLC, it still means that there's only one real choice to be made during the Crucible stage.

Maybe, after waking, your team can dust you off and give you a pep talk if you opted to "give up." Harbinger freaks out that you've broken indoctrination, but Joker comes in and fires before Harbinger can wipe you out again. Shepard and company get up to the real Crucible and make an actual choice -- with the options hopefully differing from what we had in the dream state, with endings that are actually different.

But let's not get our hopes up, even if this thread is turning into a "YOU CAN'T STOP THE SIGNAL" Firefly-esque movement.

TBH, I always expected only one ending with different outcomes attached as epilogue. Something like "after the genophague was cured, bla bla bla"...

[noobcannon]

krystalevenstar wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

I saw that too...

Where exactly is this?

in the docks in the citadel. not where you pick up allers, but down where all the refugees are

[sekkis]

Faulkner ‏ @KenRaves    · [/b]
@BioEvilChris Would it be too much if I asked you something since you work at BioWare? It's not ****ing about ME3.

1h Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris    · @KenRaves Shoot, I may not be able to answer, but I'll try.59m Faulkner ‏ @KenRaves·

@BioEvilChris During the final run, just before the end, are the two squadmates with you killed? I understand if you can't answer. 

Chris Priestly ‏ @BioEvilChris Close@KenRaves I don't think we've revealed that yet. Sorry.

Here's the full twitter exchange for anyone interested

Modifié par sekkis, 12 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[rogueagent6]

blooregard wrote...

I was also under the impression that N7 with the little red detail under it was considered to be a commander shepard trademark as every customized set of armor has the N7 and red and white stripes somewhere on it (except the kestrel armor) 

If you listen closely, it doesn't sound like anyone but Shepard inhaling. Then again, it's only an inhale, but I would think it's Shepard given the context of the scene.

[Larask]

krystalevenstar wrote...

Hey, whoa. Just noticed something major here in my Art of Mass Effect universe book I got today. Under the Illusive Man's page it reads, "One of the plans on the drawing board was to have the Illusive Man turn into a Reaper creature for the final battle. Eventually, this plan was scrapped, since we wanted to give players the satisfaction of fighting a character they know rather than a random creature."

We don't have a final battle now, and Kai Leng isn't really a 'character we know'... so what are they referencing?

I also just checked and it says this in the art book that came with the CE too

Wow, I was literally just looking at the same page about T.I.M before I saw your post. I don't know what to make of it. They said they deleted that, but mention we were going to fight it. As of now, we can't really fight it, so it could possibly mean something bigger. 

[noobcannon]

Auresta wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

Sierra163 wrote...

Watching the 'Shep lives' ending over and over again with a .bik player, and I swear I see the front end of a car in the background with the rubble.

holy **** you are right. finding a higher quality one and taking a screenshot so i can upload

This would be very interesting if screenied!

uploading asap

[Sierra163]

asilarae wrote...

prizm123 wrote...

rogueagent6 wrote...



Why is it then that the only way you get Shep alive on Earth is by choosing destroy?

how do you know it is Shep? there are a lot of N7 soldiers out there

Also, hasn't it been mentioned that the PC file with the "breathing person" ending is titled something like "ShepAlive"?

Yes, and there's a male and female version

[Xenite]

Can only pray it was and a DLC with an ending that doesn't suck will emerge.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

i wonder if the part where shepard is in the ruble means that the crucible worked?

[Golferguy758]

Title of the breathing clip is called shep_alive

Also, even with the other endings you'll probably see some sort of epilogue moment based on what you did. Like and actual epilogue of Reapes winnign or whatever.

With that I bid you all a good night! See you in the morning

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

I'm starting to believe the theory that the "Shepard breath" ending is indeed Shep waking after being hit earlier. Indeed it would make sense that EA would release additional/real endings on a dlc.