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[Big G13]

McWhitey3 wrote...

Wouldn't that be something, if the DLC is actually showing when the prothean champion talked to the star child and picked "control" and becoming indoc or showing reapers taking over them

Makes me think of the Prothean VI. " we were betrayed from within." I don't think this is the case, however, it would be an interesting twist.

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Though, right now, with The Truth pretty well disproven, I'm starting to lose faith

Then look back at the mountain of evidence that made you believe in the first place. The game pretty much writes "indoctrination!" on a sign with red paint and then beats us with it.

Thanks man. Mostly, since I looked at the evidence and debunked "The Truth" I've lost the "certainty" I had before. But, I suppose, even without the evidence, supporting it, I suppose my theory on why indoc theory is around still holds up in principle. Thanks for reminding me that.

[Lyria]

Humakt83 wrote...

I do not understand people who dismiss the indoctrination theory as nothing but wild speculation or grasping at straws emergency induction ports. Have they played the trilogy? Indoctrination and mind control is one of the major themes in all three games.

Mass Effect 1:

We learn of the husks. That Matriarch Benezia was indoctrinated, Saren was indoctrinated. We also learn some descriptive information how the indoctrination works from Saren, Benezia and Rachni Queen . We learn that research station on virmire studied the effects of indoctrination on Salarian prisoners. Separate from indoctrination is the mind controlling power of Thorian creature.
We learn that reaper made implants increase the effect of indoctrination. We also learn that the subjects under indoctrination are less mentally capable when controlling their will is increased. We learn that the effects of indoctrination are subtle at first from both Benezia and Saren but eventually the subject falls more and more under its control.

Mass Effect 2:
We witness through the video log the effects of indoctrination on Cerberus crew inside derelict reaper. We stop the indoctrinated scientists on Arrival dlc. We find the reaper artifact in one of the side mission and it has huskified all the people around it. Mind control (for synthetics) is also a major plot for Overlord dlc. We also learn about Collectors fate and how Reaper's reproduce.

Mass Effect 3:
We learn that Cerberus is using Reaper technology on their forces but they have a huge risk of becoming indoctrinated (and many if not all of them become). Illusive Man has finally felt under Reaper control. We learn that Reapers can control synthetics as well. We can learn how subtle indoctrination process is through Shepard's eyes with numerous evidences.

There, fixed it for ya. 

[Lyria]

On topic, sorta,
I thought the Quarians had Geth tech/programs running in their suits to help adapt the Quarians much quicker to Rannoch if their conflict was ended peacefully. And since wouldn't the death of all reaper tech actually be the death of the Quarians also since their life support suits are now dependent upon Geths who are upgraded with Reaper tech.

[alienatedflea]

Watch the ending scene in Mass Effect, when Saren becames reaperish saren. There are the swirly lines and darkness around the edges when its happening...does that mean Shepard was indoctrinated then too?

[Lyria]

ha. that is one of the aspects of theory.

[RealStyli]

protognosis wrote...

On topic, sorta,
I thought the Quarians had Geth tech/programs running in their suits to help adapt the Quarians much quicker to Rannoch if their conflict was ended peacefully. And since wouldn't the death of all reaper tech actually be the death of the Quarians also since their life support suits are now dependent upon Geths who are upgraded with Reaper tech.

That's very much on topic. There's just far far too much about the ending that makes zero sense unless it wasn't real.

It's incredible the amount of plot-holes in those last 10-15 mins.

[Simon_Says]

alienatedflea wrote...

Watch the ending scene in Mass Effect, when Saren becames reaperish saren. There are the swirly lines and darkness around the edges when its happening...does that mean Shepard was indoctrinated then too?

Mind taking a screen of that for us?

[Big G13]

Big G13 wrote...

So Anderson got there ahead of him by following him in. 'kay.
@ Rifneno: On this particular point I disagree. When using the relays the variation of your exit is thousands of miles. I believe that was stated in the codex. Please correct me if I am wrong. The beam that leads to the Citadel is much smaller, so, smaller variation, but variation non the less. I don't think it is a point to point transporter ala Star Trek.

BUMP:  Because I'm needy like that.

[Simon_Says]

Big G13 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

So Anderson got there ahead of him by following him in. 'kay.
@ Rifneno: On this particular point I disagree. When using the relays the variation of your exit is thousands of miles. I believe that was stated in the codex. Please correct me if I am wrong. The beam that leads to the Citadel is much smaller, so, smaller variation, but variation non the less. I don't think it is a point to point transporter ala Star Trek.

BUMP:  Because I'm needy like that.

Except the Conduit from ME1 was pretty much spot-on wasn't it?

[Big G13]

Simon_Says wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

So Anderson got there ahead of him by following him in. 'kay.
@ Rifneno: On this particular point I disagree. When using the relays the variation of your exit is thousands of miles. I believe that was stated in the codex. Please correct me if I am wrong. The beam that leads to the Citadel is much smaller, so, smaller variation, but variation non the less. I don't think it is a point to point transporter ala Star Trek.

BUMP:  Because I'm needy like that.

Except the Conduit from ME1 was pretty much spot-on wasn't it?

yea, there is that. Into the conduit, straight out off the relay monument and crash right on the front door of the counsel building. The only thing I can I pull out off my a** to counter is, the conduit was, in part, prothean and the Citadel beam is reaper. But not even I'm buying that argument.

[Lyria]

Jessica The Goddess Merizan posted some new tweets...can't get my screen cap to work....
@Jessicamerizan:
@MrChr15topher we don't see the Geth die so there's no reason that the Guardian isn't being completely honest

[Cucobr]

[clennon8]

Erm. What?

[savagejuicebox]

Cucobr wrote...

Yeah, she definitely isnt a writer.... haha:whistle:

[Lyria]

lolz.

[Thornquist]

So has this thread pretty much accepted that IT wont happen? Just read the last pages, seemed like it.

[Lyria]

Yeah...so if Geth don't die that means Quarians new upgraded suit programs won't auto die...which means there is Hope in the Destroy ending if IT doesn't pan out....
YES!

[Big G13]

clennon8 wrote...

Erm. What?

THANK YOU! For a minute I thought I had lost the ability to understand english.

[RealStyli]

Thornquist wrote...

So has this thread pretty much accepted that IT wont happen? Just read the last pages, seemed like it.

Nope. Not as far as I can see.

[Lyria]

Wait did I mistype something?

[RealStyli]

protognosis wrote...

Yeah...so if Geth don't die that means Quarians new upgraded suit programs won't auto die...which means there is Hope in the Destroy ending if IT doesn't pan out....
YES!

Also, if the "Guardian"/Starchild isn't being honest (ignore her double-negative, we know what she means), why isn't he being honest? Unless it's IT!

[zakaryzb]

I still feel like Jessica is saying whatever will make people happy. ie, Geth live, you reunite with your LI, IT isn't debunked...

[AnuzaGray]

She really needs to stop posting comments.

As it stands, unless there is a massive overhaul of the ending, only IT makes any bloody sense.

[Hacedor1566]

Cucobr wrote...

OK, now it is appropriate 


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