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[Cucobr]

[NS Wizdum]

RealStyli wrote...

@NS Wizdum

I wouldn't put MS in that category. They don't really buy companies as much as get exclusivity deals with developers to publish on their console. Epic (Gears of War) and Bungie (Halo) were good examples. They don't really seem to put unrealistic timeframes on studios either. Gears 3 was even delayed 6 months.

I put MS in there because of Halo 2. The initial script for the Halo 2 story had two additional chapters. Microsoft "forced" Bungie to release Halo 2 without those two chapters, and then expand those two chapters into Halo 3, so they could make a trilogy.

I'm not saying EA forced Bioware into anything with Mass Effect, just that it is not uncommon for that to happen, and that is why most people dislike big publishers. I was very worried that Bioware was being pushed into wasting time on multiplayer for ME3, but it actually turned out to be quite good.

[Voodzik]

So wait....the game was rushed out three months earlier than they wanted, yes? And we're getting this new ending in about three or four months, yes?

So does anyone else thing they might be using the fan rage to get their production time back? And if so, since they're not changing starchild, doesn't it sound like they had stuff planned for after him all along?

[RealStyli]

@cucobr

I didn't get a reply for that either. I was just following up on a post here. Seeing if she was indeed speaking on the actual ending or her interpretation.

[zakaryzb]

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

[Cucobr]

RealStyli wrote...

@cucobr

I didn't get a reply for that either. I was just following up on a post here. Seeing if she was indeed speaking on the actual ending or her interpretation.

we dont know
I mean, if we talked like this, we are fans debating... but if she talk like that, I simply dont know.. maybe yes.. maybe no =/

[Voodzik]

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

I'm not that worried about this. If anything, I think we'll get that originally planned three months worth of content back. And that would be best really, whatever it is....the real end of the story. Fingers crossed....

[DirtyPhoenix]

Hey people, just joined in. So what's new?

[Big G13]

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

[Big G13]

pirate1802 wrote...

Hey people, just joined in. So what's new?

Thats the Pirate I like to see. Got you confused with another pirate yesterday and couldn't figure out what had gotten into you.

[llbountyhunter]

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

[Lyria]

pirate1802 wrote...

Hey people, just joined in. So what's new?

Jessica Merizan is awesome.
<3

[zakaryzb]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real 

[DirtyPhoenix]

Big G13 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Hey people, just joined in. So what's new?

Thats the Pirate I like to see. Got you confused with another pirate yesterday and couldn't figure out what had gotten into you.

Err.. Who'd that be?

[balance5050]

zakaryzb wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real 

No, it's been planned for a long time, they just can't ever admit it for fear of being accused of selling an incomplete game. It would also take away from the wow factor of actually seeing it in game.

[Big G13]

pirate1802 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Hey people, just joined in. So what's new?

Thats the Pirate I like to see. Got you confused with another pirate yesterday and couldn't figure out what had gotten into you.

Err.. Who'd that be?

Oh, you don't know me. I didn't mean to imply anything. I just read you in this thread and yesterday I thought I was reading you and it wasn't you. Thats all. I should probably try not to think out loud. SORRY. 

[Savber100]

Why would Jessica make **** up when she knows we're reading every word?

I don't anyone would go risking her reputation here especially if her job is community manager.

I bet she's hinting something here.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real 

No, it's been planned for a long time, they just can't ever admit it for fear of being accused of selling an incomplete game. It would also take away from the wow factor of actually seeing it in game.

I disagree. This is just an excuse that's being used for theorists to still come out looking like they were right when they weren't. If IT were correct they would have just said so and told us to figure out what happens next. But they didn't.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real 

No, it's been planned for a long time, they just can't ever admit it for fear of being accused of selling an incomplete game. It would also take away from the wow factor of actually seeing it in game.

I disagree. This is just an excuse that's being used for theorists to still come out looking like they were right when they weren't. If IT were correct they would have just said so and told us to figure out what happens next. But they didn't.

But then there would be no tweeeest!


As is present in so many other Bioware games.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real 

No, it's been planned for a long time, they just can't ever admit it for fear of being accused of selling an incomplete game. It would also take away from the wow factor of actually seeing it in game.

I disagree. This is just an excuse that's being used for theorists to still come out looking like they were right when they weren't. If IT were correct they would have just said so and told us to figure out what happens next. But they didn't.

But then there would be no tweeeest!


As is present in so many other Bioware games.

The only reason they haven't flat out denied it is because non of the theorists would dnownload it. They know how large that base is. If they stop playing the game then potential DLC revenue is lost for fufure content.

Also, they want us talking about it, even after the dlc arrives. They want the attention and theorists are giving them just that. Why cut them off?

I just don't understand how people can put such obscure materials together into an elaborate theory like IT, but can't get the hint when Bioware themselves politely dismisses it.

[balance5050]

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)

[comrade gando]

hay I just jumped in, IT makes too much sense for it to be wrong. Also it would be a huge plot twist if it turned out to be true. When we all beat the game and were like "wtf" consider us all to be indoctrinated! Anyway, I'm holding out for "summer", hopefully they can make this right.

edit: what if, everything stays the same (just like they said it would), but at the end when the normandy crashes on gilligan's planet the screen cuts to black and for the first time in ME3 you hear harbinger's voice: You cannot resist me shepard *whoa snap!*

Modifié par comrade gando, 09 avril 2012 - 05:14 .

[Lyria]

Oh GBGriffin, a new person has appeared in the IT forum post....please come and dissuade him of his opinion.

I kid of course. I'm just seeing if my forummancy is working.

[blu3m3ani3]

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)

Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.

but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.

But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real 

No, it's been planned for a long time, they just can't ever admit it for fear of being accused of selling an incomplete game. It would also take away from the wow factor of actually seeing it in game.

I disagree. This is just an excuse that's being used for theorists to still come out looking like they were right when they weren't. If IT were correct they would have just said so and told us to figure out what happens next. But they didn't.

heres my opinion, bioware had several ending planned out for mass effect 3 before launch, (maybe with IT bieng the most favored) and are now going to pick the proper ending based on user reaction. so IT was planned before hand but still haddent been put into play