Aller au contenu

Photo

Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


57139 réponses à ce sujet

#34051
XXIceColdXX

XXIceColdXX
  • Members
  • 1 230 messages
If the IT theory proves correct, Id like to lead my war assets into battle with cutscenes where choices are possible. No further actual gameplay would be required,

#34052
llbountyhunter

llbountyhunter
  • Members
  • 1 646 messages

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)


Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?


well IT does just that: clarify. it doesnt change the current endings- it simply expands on them. 

so the "endings" were just a mental battle between you and harbinger, and based on your desision (indoctrinated vs not) and your EMS you can probably get at least six very different endings.

#34053
balance5050

balance5050
  • Members
  • 5 245 messages

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)


Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?


Uhm, The I.T. uses nothing but in game evidence. Even if they never outright deny it, it's a completely valid interpretation, and unless you can use in game evidence to disprove it, I.T. will live forever.

#34054
balance5050

balance5050
  • Members
  • 5 245 messages

XXIceColdXX wrote...

If the IT theory proves correct, Id like to lead my war assets into battle with cutscenes where choices are possible. No further actual gameplay would be required,



#34055
Bill Casey

Bill Casey
  • Members
  • 7 609 messages

XXIceColdXX wrote...

If the IT theory proves correct, Id like to lead my war assets into battle with cutscenes where choices are possible. No further actual gameplay would be required,


I want to see an ending where Shepard can Paragon Interrupt and blow his own brains out like Saren/Illusive Man/Fai Dan/etc...

Optional ending, of course...

#34056
balance5050

balance5050
  • Members
  • 5 245 messages

Bill Casey wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

If the IT theory proves correct, Id like to lead my war assets into battle with cutscenes where choices are possible. No further actual gameplay would be required,


I want to see an ending where Shepard can Paragon Interrupt and blow his own brains out like Saren/Illusive Man/Fai Dan/etc...

Optional ending, of course...


Your love interest would be the one to try and talk you out of it, your war assets would affect whether he/she is successful or not.

#34057
Bill Casey

Bill Casey
  • Members
  • 7 609 messages
If you don't do it, the Reapers force you to kill her...
Let's say this would be if you picked Control...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 09 avril 2012 - 05:29 .


#34058
blu3m3ani3

blu3m3ani3
  • Members
  • 14 messages

balance5050 wrote...

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)


Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?


Uhm, The I.T. uses nothing but in game evidence. Even if they never outright deny it, it's a completely valid interpretation, and unless you can use in game evidence to disprove it, I.T. will live forever.


I would liek to believe the IT. The only problem i have now is that what made me have a little belief in it was the fact that Shep would need to wake up and a new ending made. Am i missing something? The current ending doesnt work for the IT. Help?

#34059
Bill Casey

Bill Casey
  • Members
  • 7 609 messages

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

I would liek to believe the IT. The only problem i have now is that what made me have a little belief in it was the fact that Shep would need to wake up and a new ending made. Am i missing something? The current ending doesnt work for the IT. Help?


No, they were going to leave it open to interpretation...
Like Blade Runner and Total Recall...

Ambiguous ending, lots of speculation, that sort of thing...


No telling what's real and what isn't...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 09 avril 2012 - 05:35 .


#34060
blu3m3ani3

blu3m3ani3
  • Members
  • 14 messages

Bill Casey wrote...

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

I would liek to believe the IT. The only problem i have now is that what made me have a little belief in it was the fact that Shep would need to wake up and a new ending made. Am i missing something? The current ending doesnt work for the IT. Help?


No, they were going to leave it open to interpretation...
Like Blade Runner and Total Recall...

Well no reason to play the summer DLC than if its like that- kills the game. The IT only works for me if i get to play Shep waking up and conquering or Dying (Para/Ren). that works. Not leaving the game like it is, I guess thats why i cant see how the IT can still hold up. The whole point of the IT, i thought/read was to give hope that the current ending was a dream.

Modifié par blu3m3ani3, 09 avril 2012 - 05:36 .


#34061
Bill Casey

Bill Casey
  • Members
  • 7 609 messages
Indoctrination does not equal dream...

#34062
liggy002

liggy002
  • Members
  • 5 337 messages
They haven't denied the gameplay aspect of the Extended Cut. They have only promised cutscenes and cinematics. With gameplay added in, IT is very possible. IT doesn't require the ending to be changed, it only requires an expansion.

#34063
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

I would liek to believe the IT. The only problem i have now is that what made me have a little belief in it was the fact that Shep would need to wake up and a new ending made. Am i missing something? The current ending doesnt work for the IT. Help?


No, they were going to leave it open to interpretation...
Like Blade Runner and Total Recall...

Well no reason to play the summer DLC than if its like that- kills the game. The IT only works for me if i get to play Shep waking up and conquering or Dying (Para/Ren). that works. Not leaving the game like it is, I guess thats why i cant see how the IT can still hold up. The whole point of the IT, i thought/read was to give hope that the current ending was a dream.


From what I've read the Extended Cut isn't adding any more gameplay, but more cinematics and I guess epilogues I can't really remember the exact wording. It's possible by gameplay they mean combat and not running around talking to squadmates but we'll have to wait and see. Also, it's free so no reason to pass it up :).
Moreover, there's still hope for post-ending DLC mission content in the future, potentially revealing Indoctrination Theory or whatever Biowares artistic vision was (it's all about that "Shepard's Breath" scene I know it!) so don't lose hope yet.

#34064
Hunter_Wolf

Hunter_Wolf
  • Members
  • 670 messages

liggy002 wrote...

They haven't denied the gameplay aspect of the Extended Cut. They have only promised cutscenes and cinematics. With gameplay added in, IT is very possible. IT doesn't require the ending to be changed, it only requires an expansion.


IT also requires  lot of tweeking to the current ending to fit. Tacking on IT now wont work because of the plotholes that still exist. But who knows what this DLC will apply. They kind of  said that no gameplay would be added only that the current ending would get enhanced. So I wouldn't expect to have Shepard wake up and then play from that point on.

#34065
Joedogg9999

Joedogg9999
  • Members
  • 47 messages
Imo the ultimate ending would be for sheppard to wake up shellshocked to his LI (in my case jack) over him yelling sheppards name trying to snap him out of it. From there they both move on to fight the illusive man somehow, someway. This would especially be great with a LI like jack who absolutely dispises TIM. From there they would somehow defeat harbinger and the reapers. For the best dramatic effect, both sheppard and his LI will die together in the process.

Now, if theres another trilogy after this that follows sheppard than they both can live. But i think its better they both go out in a blaze of glory if theres no 2nd trilogy planned.

#34066
lex0r11

lex0r11
  • Members
  • 2 190 messages
Shameless bump is shameless.


I know i posted this before, but i have to share it again for it is SO related.

Posted Image

#34067
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)


Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?


*sigh* here we are again; 
http://social.biowar...3/1313#11127624 

#34068
Jadebaby

Jadebaby
  • Members
  • 13 229 messages

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

They haven't denied the gameplay aspect of the Extended Cut. They have only promised cutscenes and cinematics. With gameplay added in, IT is very possible. IT doesn't require the ending to be changed, it only requires an expansion.


IT also requires  lot of tweeking to the current ending to fit. Tacking on IT now wont work because of the plotholes that still exist. But who knows what this DLC will apply. They kind of  said that no gameplay would be added only that the current ending would get enhanced. So I wouldn't expect to have Shepard wake up and then play from that point on.


Wrong, im writing a fanfic now to prove that, it's extended ending with IT and it fits within the canon of ME3.

EDIT: Damn people I'm not even gone a day and it's been like 40 pages!

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 09 avril 2012 - 06:28 .


#34069
lex0r11

lex0r11
  • Members
  • 2 190 messages

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

They haven't denied the gameplay aspect of the Extended Cut. They have only promised cutscenes and cinematics. With gameplay added in, IT is very possible. IT doesn't require the ending to be changed, it only requires an expansion.


IT also requires  lot of tweeking to the current ending to fit. Tacking on IT now wont work because of the plotholes that still exist. But who knows what this DLC will apply. They kind of  said that no gameplay would be added only that the current ending would get enhanced. So I wouldn't expect to have Shepard wake up and then play from that point on.


Wrong, im writing a fanfic now to prove that, it's extended ending with IT and it fits within the canon of ME3.


Give it a read, it's in the sig.

Posted Image

#34070
Suikoden

Suikoden
  • Members
  • 158 messages

Hunter_Wolf wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

They haven't denied the gameplay aspect of the Extended Cut. They have only promised cutscenes and cinematics. With gameplay added in, IT is very possible. IT doesn't require the ending to be changed, it only requires an expansion.


IT also requires  lot of tweeking to the current ending to fit. Tacking on IT now wont work because of the plotholes that still exist. But who knows what this DLC will apply. They kind of  said that no gameplay would be added only that the current ending would get enhanced. So I wouldn't expect to have Shepard wake up and then play from that point on.


IT doesn't require any tweaking.  There aren't any plotholes if you subscribe to it - as the parts of the game people point to (joker fleeing/crash landing/relays overloading), these are all in Shepards mind.  They're not actually happening.  

You can easily add cinematics without actual gameplay that make IT more obvious to people that still take the ending at face-value.

Modifié par beutelmarkus, 09 avril 2012 - 06:43 .


#34071
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)


Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?


*sigh* here we are again; 
http://social.biowar...3/1313#11127624 


Not sure if I already said this but well done on that Arian, definitley proves a thing or two to people saying the very idea of Extended Cut would debunk IT all together. It very well may but it also may not.

#34072
Domanese

Domanese
  • Members
  • 334 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

blu3m3ani3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 @EpyonX3
Guess we'll just wait and see what the "extended" cut has in store for us;)


Since they said that there not changing the ending..... just clarifying stuff "extended". How could the IT hold up with the current ending?


*sigh* here we are again; 
http://social.biowar...3/1313#11127624 


I read it and Im doubly convinced by what you just depicted. Nice work on that. I think you deserve this.



#34073
Arian Dynas

Arian Dynas
  • Members
  • 3 799 messages
Thanks. Now I just wish I could convince myself.

#34074
gunslinger_ruiz

gunslinger_ruiz
  • Members
  • 1 650 messages
I don't think it's a matter of convincing, just a matter of waiting now. Hopefully not followed by more waiting.

#34075
lex0r11

lex0r11
  • Members
  • 2 190 messages

Arian Dynas wrote...

Thanks. Now I just wish I could convince myself.



Don't say that!


Posted Image