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This is kid of out there, but did anyone think of the South Park episode where they raped Indiana Jones after they saw ME 3's ending. U know I did

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for PC it is today or tomorrow, consoles is the day after that.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

This is kid of out there, but did anyone think of the South Park episode where they raped Indiana Jones after they saw ME 3's ending. U know I did


LOL

Making a motivational poster, watch out people!

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Dwailing wrote...

Also, off topic, but has the patch for ME3 been released yet? I checked for updates today, but all I got was one of those 1 second updates where I'm not sure it's actually updating.

I've been working alot. What is the patch for?

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Shephards from all over the world female and men alike we have joined in this forum, and before you read on in these desperate times, turn this song on!



“You all know the mission, and what is at stake.
I have come to trust each of you with my life -- but I have also heard murmurs of discontent. I share your concerns.
We are trained to buy their games; we would be legends, but the records are sealed. Glory in ****ing is not our way.
Think of our heroes; the Silent Step, who defeated a nation with a single shot. Or the Ever Alert, who kept EA and Bioware at bay with hidden facts.
These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.
Before Mass Effect, there was the Baldurs Gate. Before Baldurs Gate, there were Zork!
Our influence stopped the endings to be the same, but before that we held the line!
Our influence stopped the other theories, but before that, we held the line!
Our influence will stop these endings from being bad and filled with plotholes; in the battle in a few months, we will hold the line! Because among us is men and women from all over the world united in a single cause to get an ending worthy of the greatest scifi experience out there, but before that we held the line! Our numbers darkend the internet because we are Legion, but before that We held the line! ”

United we stand, divided we fall!


Bioware you should be proud to have this kind of fans whom are so passionate about your games they become like beasts in a twillight moon!

Fellow Shephards togheter we can, and Bioware we love you and your games!

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UrgedDuke wrote...

This is kid of out there, but did anyone think of the South Park episode where they raped Indiana Jones after they saw ME 3's ending. U know I did


Lawl. Link please :P?

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http://www.southpark...s06e09-free-hat

here you go

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I got to go to class now be back later

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MeldarthX wrote...

Food for thought -

Chris Mills Chris Mills ‏ @MrChr15topher
@JessicaMerizan @Geousprime Quarians dont die cos its not reaper tech? Then why do Geth Die? I no EDI has sovereign code so that makes sense
Jessica Merizan Jessica Merizan ‏ @JessicaMerizan
@MrChr15topher we don't see the Geth die so there's no reason that the Guardian isn't being completely honest


Proof starchild is lieing about somethings can possibly equal = lieing about all things = about itself.........and IT theory has a nice boost


Sigh, I always had a bad feeling about killing off the Geth. Now I can sleep better :')

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UrgedDuke wrote...

http://www.southpark...s06e09-free-hat

here you go


It says "Sorry this video is unavailable from this site" :(

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Big G13 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Also, off topic, but has the patch for ME3 been released yet? I checked for updates today, but all I got was one of those 1 second updates where I'm not sure it's actually updating.

I've been working alot. What is the patch for?


To fix the face transfer issue. It's supposed to be this week.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

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Towlie = WIN

EDIT:  Don't forget to bring a towel Space Magic!:wizard:

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Gilgamesh117 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Also, off topic, but has the patch for ME3 been released yet? I checked for updates today, but all I got was one of those 1 second updates where I'm not sure it's actually updating.

I've been working alot. What is the patch for?


To fix the face transfer issue. It's supposed to be this week.

Thanks for the info. After spending an hour working to get my ME3 Shep to look like my ME2 Shep I'm sure I'll jump right on that.:blink:     My sarcasm is not directed at you.

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thanx, I like the Chuck Norris one better though, it's so chuck norris lol

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Hey everyone,
I'd like to just insert my idea on the whole blue/red paragon/renegade thing.
I've mentioned it before but it was lost in the pages lol.

For the sake of argument, IT is true. The citadel scene is designed by reapers, right?
So reapers like order, order is good, order is paragon.
Reapers hate chaos, chaos is bad, chaos is renegade.

The colours of the ending are how the reapers see things. They see control, like they do, as bringing order to the universe. Destruction of them allows chaos to go on unstopped. The reapers had no control over the colours, they are just as they are.

When you do paragon/renegade choices throughout the game you have that choice wheel thing and that's from Shepards POV. The ending isn't simply just a bit text on the screen.

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The alternative is that the reapers know about the whole blue/paragon, orange/renagade thing. I find that to be a bit more unlikely though.

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HAHA! You've been hangin' out with Lex0r11.

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Reapers like control. So they are Templars?

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llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

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zakaryzb wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

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zakaryzb wrote...

So I thought this was a good read but the implications of some of the authors points made me sad: http://www.forbes.co...-with-free-dlc/

Basically, he is stating that EA/Bioware was forced to come out with a "Expansion DLC" for free otherwise the backlash would continue to ruin sales numbers. If an ending DLC was already planned and they originally set up the ending to allow for this later down the road is now irrelevant. It really doesn't matter now because they were forced into a corner and had to tell the world that they will be coming out with more "clarification" otherwise, the backlash would continue and this needs to be released sooner than later. IF Bioware really wanted 6 more months to complete the game but only got 3, this could explain how they were going to maybe continue the ending down the road. But now, since fans wanted clarification in the form of new content and they wanted it ASAP, Bioware might have had to scrap any plans they had to come out with what will currently make most people happy.

Thus, if IT was intended or something similar to it was going to be released, it more than likely no longer will be... But this is all based on a lot of speculation and opinion.

Oh, I see, it's all OUR fault. o.k.


but bioware said itll come out this summer.... which ends in august- so they can still get there 3 months, all they really had to do was, say that there will be a future dlc and that was we got wasnt everything.


But they didn't which would suggest it may never have been planned and IT was never real :unsure:


No, it's been planned for a long time, they just can't ever admit it for fear of being accused of selling an incomplete game. It would also take away from the wow factor of actually seeing it in game.


I disagree. This is just an excuse that's being used for theorists to still come out looking like they were right when they weren't. If IT were correct they would have just said so and told us to figure out what happens next. But they didn't.


heres my opinion, bioware had several ending planned out for mass effect 3 before launch, (maybe with IT bieng the most favored) and are now going to pick the proper ending based on user reaction. so IT was planned before hand but still haddent been put into play


Here's what actually happened. Biwoware had the same endings planned but with a lot more variations. It got leaked and they scrambled to change it up as much as they could, hence all of the plot holes. The holes are there because they were meant to explain endings they couldn't add to the game.

They had a plan for Shepard being indoctrinated, however, the player would have known it was going on. They scrapped it because it wouldn't fit right with the story and because it was too difficult to implement the controls and the scenes of Shepard being taken over.

IT is way too large to explain in an extended cut that may not even offer much gameplay. Not to mention the theory has numerous holes that have been exposed.

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Big G13 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

HAHA! You've been hangin' out with Lex0r11.


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EpyonX3 wrote...

Here's what actually happened. Biwoware had the same endings planned but with a lot more variations. It got leaked and they scrambled to change it up as much as they could, hence all of the plot holes. The holes are there because they were meant to explain endings they couldn't add to the game.

They had a plan for Shepard being indoctrinated, however, the player would have known it was going on. They scrapped it because it wouldn't fit right with the story and because it was too difficult to implement the controls and the scenes of Shepard being taken over.

IT is way too large to explain in an extended cut that may not even offer much gameplay. Not to mention the theory has numerous holes that have been exposed.


They scrapped the part where you lose control of Shepard. And they never mentioned anything about the actual indoctrination.

And would you mind telling me what plot holes IT has? Loads of people keep mentioning them, but no one has ever posted them :s strange


Edit: collapsed that horrible quote pyramid thing lol

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Not to anyone in particular, because it's been mentioned several times, but IT doesn't really need to explain the ending. If the ending isn't real, Shepard could have been riding around on a donkey and the godchild could have been a giant cat or something.

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I just found perhaps one of the best arguments for why everyone is unsatisfied with the ending. Even the Wachowski Brothers knew that the whole martyrdom space magic is a bad idea for a videogame!



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The things that give it away are the eyes I think. In the red ending Shepard is her/himself while on the other two she becomes a husk or something and get the same eyes as TIM. Even if this is the case, which I hope, then BioWare failed to deliver. They should have done this in a way that people understand.

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Sire Styx wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Here's what actually happened. Biwoware had the same endings planned but with a lot more variations. It got leaked and they scrambled to change it up as much as they could, hence all of the plot holes. The holes are there because they were meant to explain endings they couldn't add to the game.

They had a plan for Shepard being indoctrinated, however, the player would have known it was going on. They scrapped it because it wouldn't fit right with the story and because it was too difficult to implement the controls and the scenes of Shepard being taken over.

IT is way too large to explain in an extended cut that may not even offer much gameplay. Not to mention the theory has numerous holes that have been exposed.


They scrapped the part where you lose control of Shepard. And they never mentioned anything about the actual indoctrination.

And would you mind telling me what plot holes IT has? Loads of people keep mentioning them, but no one has ever posted them :s strange


Edit: collapsed that horrible quote pyramid thing lol


Thanks for the quote thing. Still getting used to this forum.

Well if you lose control of Shepard, doesn't that imply that he was indoctrinated, since that is a major symptom of it? You see yourself doing things without knowing why and can't control it?

I've also posted a couple of videos point out some flaws but they generally get ignored. I find that even stranger. Here they are again:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVR_kScvMUw

Let me also be clear that I like the theory but a lot of things don't add up and it's not very likely. I also don't dig the near religious tone of most of the "believers" of the theory. It's a bit unsettling.