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[llbountyhunter]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

And why not? For all we know this has been in the works for awhile and they are ready to announce it. The summer release date is to get all the VA's and stuff done.

The thing is that you can't go around making official statements unless your sure you can deliver, what if the VA cant do it for some reason. That's not how business works.

Again more evidence that the ending was recorded before launch and maybe now its just the art team or something tweaking it.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 09 avril 2012 - 05:02 .

[IronSabbath88]

Perhaps some have already done the dialogue then. Remember, everyone has different schedules and it makes sense that they would have Sheen and Henriksen asap as they're probably some of the most busy.

Either way I still think they planned IT. What would give you the notion they didn't? Like I said, if they told you they planned the Extended Cut from the start, that would give it away.

Furthermore, I'd like to think they planned all those subtle hint drops in the game rather than put them there and forgot about them. Highly unlikely that they just kept those there without doing anytihng with them as much as people say that is the case.

Modifié par IronSabbath88, 09 avril 2012 - 05:03 .

[EricHVela]

IsaacShep wrote...

Mike Gamble already answered on twitter that they simply haven't contacted voice actors yet.

Mark Meer either still is or recently was working on a TV project up to last week.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

And why not? For all we know this has been in the works for awhile and they are ready to announce it. The summer release date is to get all the VA's and stuff done.

That's possible guess we will know come summer.

If it was intended they would already have VA stuff done, especially since Martin Sheen had to come back to do dialogue as late as Nov last year.

I do think they will run with IT.... But they didn't plan IT.

Well either way I hope they do IT also

[MothrascoolerthenGodzilla]

I just have one question for all the literalists, do they really believe the process to have the Catalyst destroy all synthetic life was designed to begin by shooting a conduit? Seems a mighty fallible way to begin a designed detonation. Why not a button?

Modifié par MothrascoolerthenGodzilla, 09 avril 2012 - 05:07 .

[llbountyhunter]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Perhaps some have already done the dialogue then. Remember, everyone has different schedules and it makes sense that they would have Sheen and Henriksen asap as they're probably some of the most busy.

Either way I still think they planned IT. What would give you the notion they didn't? Like I said, if they told you they planned the Extended Cut from the start, that would give it away.

Furthermore, I'd like to think they planned all those subtle hint drops in the game rather than put them there and forgot about them. Highly unlikely that they just kept those there without doing anytihng with them as much as people say that is the case.

Agreed.... also I wasn't countering IT I was supporting it.

[Chief Commander]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

And why not? For all we know this has been in the works for awhile and they are ready to announce it. The summer release date is to get all the VA's and stuff done.

That's possible guess we will know come summer.

If it was intended they would already have VA stuff done, especially since Martin Sheen had to come back to do dialogue as late as Nov last year.

I do think they will run with IT.... But they didn't plan IT.

If I recall correctly Martin Sheen said "Stay tuned. I´m not done yet!" in the voice cast video for Mass Effect 3.  So they had something planned with TIM all along I believe. This again makes the IT plausible and planned.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Chief Commander wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

And why not? For all we know this has been in the works for awhile and they are ready to announce it. The summer release date is to get all the VA's and stuff done.

That's possible guess we will know come summer.

If it was intended they would already have VA stuff done, especially since Martin Sheen had to come back to do dialogue as late as Nov last year.

I do think they will run with IT.... But they didn't plan IT.

If I recall correctly Martin Sheen said "Stay tuned. I´m not done yet!" in the voice cast video for Mass Effect 3.  So they had something planned with TIM all along I believe. This again makes the IT plausible and planned.

I remember that I also feel that is evidence of something

[KevShep]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


If it was intended they would already have VA stuff done, especially since Martin Sheen had to come back to do dialogue as late as Nov last year.

I do think they will run with IT.... But they didn't plan IT.

Yes they did plan it...

They release a DLC that was going to be part of the game (from ashes) for $10 when it was going to be part of the game. Why would they do this? Its because they are releasing the ending DLC in the future AFTER "speculations from Everyone".

Thats why the Explaination DLC is going to be free because we already paid for it with From Ashes!

[llbountyhunter]

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

And why not? For all we know this has been in the works for awhile and they are ready to announce it. The summer release date is to get all the VA's and stuff done.

That's possible guess we will know come summer.

If it was intended they would already have VA stuff done, especially since Martin Sheen had to come back to do dialogue as late as Nov last year.

I do think they will run with IT.... But they didn't plan IT.

Well either way I hope they do IT also

That's what I'm saying, if they haven't contacted the VAs. It means they they already did the ending, and had IT planned all along- therefore no reason to call them back.

[zakaryzb]

Have any of you guys seen this thread? http://social.biowar...ndex/11207428/1

Its a fan's recap from PAX and is all paraphrasing, but from what Mike Gamble and others have been saying it makes sense...unfortunately.

[EricHVela]

Okay. I read the IT from this thread finally (after someone stated the crazy idea that Shepard shot himself as part of the IT).

The visual artifacts are just that -- artifacts. They're not to be taken literally. One person repeatedly said they ran out of time. Another said they were running out of money. This is what causes sloppy work, which results in visual artifacts.

Nobody seems to take into account that TIM's black-lines visual affect ends with TIM's death. I'm guessing a lot of people never got their Shepard down to near-death long enough to see the same effects on the screen that the Harbinger laser causes. (If you immediately recover, you don't see it. It has to be near-death for several seconds.)

Everything has a viable explanation with the available hints throughout the game ... except for the child. Shepard never hears the child leave through the ductwork that was noisy enough for him the hear the child in the first place. Anderson never heard the child in the duct (though he might have been hearing too much noise from the other side of the doorway). When the child is going to the escape shuttle, nobody notices him or helps him in any way. The reason why the Catalyst talks to Shepard as the same child makes no sense, either.

That's the only plot hole.

[MothrascoolerthenGodzilla]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Okay. I read the IT from this thread finally (after someone stated the crazy idea that Shepard shot himself as part of the IT).

The visual artifacts are just that -- artifacts. They're not to be taken literally. One person repeatedly said they ran out of time. Another said they were running out of money. This is what causes sloppy work, which results in visual artifacts.

Nobody seems to take into account that TIM's black-lines visual affect ends with TIM's death. I'm guessing a lot of people never got their Shepard down to near-death long enough to see the same effects on the screen that the Harbinger laser causes. (If you immediately recover, you don't see it. It has to be near-death for several seconds.)

Everything has a viable explanation with the available hints throughout the game ... except for the child. Shepard never hears the child leave through the ductwork that was noisy enough for him the hear the child in the first place. Anderson never heard the child in the duct (though he might have been hearing too much noise from the other side of the doorway). When the child is going to the escape shuttle, nobody notices him or helps him in any way. The reason why the Catalyst talks to Shepard as the same child makes no sense, either.

That's the only plot hole.

So the blood coming out of Shepard's wound that's exactly where she shot Anderson who never bleeds at all is a visual artifact?  Seems like intentional animating to me.

[blooregard]

ReggarBlane wrote...

Okay. I read the IT from this thread finally (after someone stated the crazy idea that Shepard shot himself as part of the IT).

The visual artifacts are just that -- artifacts. They're not to be taken literally. One person repeatedly said they ran out of time. Another said they were running out of money. This is what causes sloppy work, which results in visual artifacts.

Nobody seems to take into account that TIM's black-lines visual affect ends with TIM's death. I'm guessing a lot of people never got their Shepard down to near-death long enough to see the same effects on the screen that the Harbinger laser causes. (If you immediately recover, you don't see it. It has to be near-death for several seconds.)

Everything has a viable explanation with the available hints throughout the game ... except for the child. Shepard never hears the child leave through the ductwork that was noisy enough for him the hear the child in the first place. Anderson never heard the child in the duct (though he might have been hearing too much noise from the other side of the doorway). When the child is going to the escape shuttle, nobody notices him or helps him in any way. The reason why the Catalyst talks to Shepard as the same child makes no sense, either.

That's the only plot hole.

What about the catalyst being unable/unwilling to do a damn thing himself causing the events of ME1?


Or the reason for a human reaper causing the events of ME2?


Or Shepard waking up in non citadel looking rubble at the end of ME3 destroy ending?



There are plotholes, more then you know.

[balance5050]

zakaryzb wrote...

Have any of you guys seen this thread? http://social.biowar...ndex/11207428/1

Its a fan's recap from PAX and is all paraphrasing, but from what Mike Gamble and others have been saying it makes sense...unfortunately.

That's all paraphrasing, all we learned from PAX was that we're waiting until summer to get answers.

[KevShep]

llbountyhunter wrote...


That's what I'm saying, if they haven't contacted the VAs. It means they they already did the ending, and had IT planned all along- therefore no reason to call them back.

Yes they have I will post the tweets when I can.

Modifié par KevShep, 09 avril 2012 - 05:21 .

[llbountyhunter]

KevShep wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...


That's what I'm saying, if they haven't contacted the VAs. It means they they already did the ending, and had IT planned all along- therefore no reason to call them back.

Yes they have I will post the tweets when I can.

He said "all that is in the works" not "we have (or will) contacted them". Nothing definative from thisold tweet.

They're probably just ironing out the small details atm

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 09 avril 2012 - 05:31 .

[Skillz1986]

I have been supporting (and still am) IT from a fairly early stage (page 100..maybe before that) an i really think it's a well thought through idea. i do however not believe it was intended (i did in the beginning..that has changed appearently).

I'll try to point out why:
The incomplete game argument was brought up a lot from what i can tell, it has been addresed (most of the times wit the "it has been done before" answer) and while i support the answers, and (kind od....wait for it) dismiss this argument, it holds some truth. would IT im fact have been planned before the outburst. biwoware surely would have waited a reasonable time..only to blow our minds with the following dlc, on that i can agree. but what do we have now:

1. A game without an definite ending
2. No closure what so ever
3.(worst part) assumingly MONTHS of uncertainty.

That's how you treat players who spent 60 bucks (or 89 in my case..collector's edition)...who expected a great game (check) but also a great conclusion to the trilogy (well...no!). You know, the difference between a game..or let's say a movie, is that you can enjoy the game at your own pace...but now i am forced to wait for an ending, which might or might not provide closure, leaving it to me and my immagination, while i wait for it in utter uncertainty. it drives me mad.

From gamer's and firts an foremost..from a customer's perspective. i think..if they decided to implement IT..i happened after the huge negative backlash...

Or they just really..i mean REALLY suck hard at pr...because all of this is just too much uncertainty and speculation...for a far too long time period. that's how i feel at least. still holding the line

[Sammuthegreat]

I could've sworn I saw a Tweet where Her Royal Awesome-and-Confusingness Jessica Merizan said there would be playable content on the DLC... let me see if I can dig it out...

EDIT: Here we go!

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 09 avril 2012 - 05:32 .

[Rifneno]

balance5050 wrote...

At first I was thinking that Boware likes us cause we weren't raging as hard about the ending, but know it's like theyre saying "Shut up! You're going to ruin the surprise!"

So true. I recall someone saying a while back that they thought the reason BW backed off from hinting toward this is because it got bigger than they expected. They want a surprise and we're making too much noise. The more I think about it, the more I think that's the case.

ReggarBlane wrote...

Okay. I read the IT from this thread finally (after someone stated the crazy idea that Shepard shot himself as part of the IT).

The visual artifacts are just that -- artifacts. They're not to be taken literally. One person repeatedly said they ran out of time. Another said they were running out of money. This is what causes sloppy work, which results in visual artifacts.

Nobody seems to take into account that TIM's black-lines visual affect ends with TIM's death. I'm guessing a lot of people never got their Shepard down to near-death long enough to see the same effects on the screen that the Harbinger laser causes. (If you immediately recover, you don't see it. It has to be near-death for several seconds.)

Everything has a viable explanation with the available hints throughout the game ... except for the child. Shepard never hears the child leave through the ductwork that was noisy enough for him the hear the child in the first place. Anderson never heard the child in the duct (though he might have been hearing too much noise from the other side of the doorway). When the child is going to the escape shuttle, nobody notices him or helps him in any way. The reason why the Catalyst talks to Shepard as the same child makes no sense, either.

That's the only plot hole.

Great. Another one to tell us "recycled models". How about "but the Prothean VI didn't sense it" while we're at it?
Tell me how Shepard getting TIM's indoctrinated eye model at the end if he picks control of synthesis is a "visual artifact."
Tell me why the "Citadel" is oddly reminiscent of places Shepard has been to but is an entirely new area if it's merely a rush job. Rush jobs have zones that look exactly the same (see: Dragon Age 2) not entirely new and fully designed zones that bear an odd resemblence.
Tell me why Shepard only surviving destroy makes any sense except if it was IT.
Tell me why TIM went from "I don't expect you to understand and I'm certainly not looking for your approval." on Mars to "Because... I need you to believe." when asked in the end why he's bothering with Shepard & Anderson rather than just going and controlling the Reapers.

[MothrascoolerthenGodzilla]

Am I the only one who thinks 2-4 months isn't really that long and that it would be longer if none of this was in the works before the game released.

[KevShep]

llbountyhunter wrote...

KevShep wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...


That's what I'm saying, if they haven't contacted the VAs. It means they they already did the ending, and had IT planned all along- therefore no reason to call them back.

Yes they have I will post the tweets when I can.

He said "all that is in the works" not "we have (or will) contacted them". Nothing definative from thisold tweet.

They're probably just ironing out the small details atm

Of course its not definate...it would be a spoiler!

[Spartas Husky]

EA sucks, they blew it. We know, they know. Only difference between us two is that they dont give a fu(****. We do.

[KevShep]

MothrascoolerthenGodzilla wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks 2-4 months isn't really that long and that it would be longer if none of this was in the works before the game released.

Yes it was in the works before the release of ME3. Thats what the whole thing about "speculations from Everyone" was!

[Voodzik]

 Okay folks.....tinfoil hat time. Two equally silly (but not impossible) theories.

There's an ooooooold old old old batman comic where the penguin can't think of a crime to commit, so he does it backwards. He litters Gotham city with weird clues and waits for batman to find meaning in them, then commits the crime batman "figured out." What if all these clues were thrown around in order to see what ending the FANS wanted?

And if your hat's not shiny enough yet, conspiracy theory 2....

OP is a bioware employee. Indic was always intended, but the time limits placed by EA made it impossible. So to prove fans wanted it, the explanation was leaked to get us all demanding it, thus forcing EA to approve the project.

No, I don't think these really happened. But boy they're not impossible, huh?