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[Nauks]

Byakuren2009 wrote...

Nauks wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

why exactly do i have to shoot that guddam tube? Since when do you destroy something to activate it?

And walking right into the explosion

Maybe to find an exit to the indoctrination

touché!

[Skillz1986]

That's what i'm trying to hint at. but seriously. Just imagine for a second, that they actually are going to run with the current endings. how would you expect them to address even that (since it is none of the major hickups presented in the endings).

"well, uh..shepard always used to shoot things in order to set things right, we tried to keep it consistent. It's also really late and we've got to go."

[n00bsauce2010]

Blubox wrote...

just something quick here.
can i buy a copy of ME2 somewhere with all dlc? For xbox360. i dont want to download them again. my me2 version has a small crack on disc1 + i would like the game in english.

The beauty of owning a ps3. Mass effect 2 with all dlc - arrival for only $20.

[Skillz1986]

I also do own a ps3. and while you have access to all those dlc's, the version is more bugged than ghe collectors' appearence. while it does not really divert fro. the overall experience, the sound issues within the cut scenes can certainly p**s you off.

[n00bsauce2010]

Skillz1986 wrote...

I also do own a ps3. and while you have access to all those dlc's, the version is more bugged than ghe collectors' appearence. while it does not really divert fro. the overall experience, the sound issues within the cut scenes can certainly p**s you off.

On the ps3 version? It also skips a lot of dialogue on its own... its quite annoying. But not enough to ****** me off.

[Ravel1992]

Sire Styx wrote...

Peregrin25 wrote...

Maybe the Keepers created the Reapers lol.

Even if it wasn't a serious suggestion it may make sense. Keepers created reapers. Reapers rebellled.

I thought the same. That could explain why keepers know how to handle with citadel. They created it.

[Voodzik]

 Okay, probably been said before, but....I just realized Shepherd might have really HURT harbinger. If Indoc is true. 

Think about it. The only synthetics we know anything about are the geth. And they see their physical selves as unimportant. They're computer programs. Even EDI, while she needs her core processors stable, can body hop and remote control without trouble. Her programming is her, not her body.

So if reapers work the same way...even if everything he experienced is some kind of psychic allegory conjured by reapers messing with Shepherd's mind, he might have actually been doing some kind of physical damage to harbinger.

Even if not, shooting that thing for destroy the reapers makes sense if we're in shepherds head space, since dreams do that kind of thing a lot. Destroy to destroy, swim by walking because you think of it as "moving," etc.

[Sammuthegreat]

Ravel1992 wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

Peregrin25 wrote...

Maybe the Keepers created the Reapers lol.

Even if it wasn't a serious suggestion it may make sense. Keepers created reapers. Reapers rebellled.

I thought the same. That could explain why keepers know how to handle with citadel. They created it.

Whether the eventual ending incorporates Indoc Theory or not, I have a funny feeling that the keepers will be involved somehow.

[Skillz1986]

Well as i said. doesn't bither me as much as to really ruin the game for me. but when you see that mech firing at the quarians on freedoms progress, and the sound being like 2 seconds late for the party...well you begin to wonder;) but still a great game. Played it las week and enjoyed it immensely. although i have already finished the game for approximately 17 times now. Just another reason why bioware's "artistic integrity" bothers me that much (for now at least).

[zergi]

we all know mordin created the reapers.

[Rifneno]

Nauks wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

why exactly do i have to shoot that guddam tube? Since when do you destroy something to activate it?

And walking right into the explosion

Nothing, nothing will ever beat "jump into this weird beam to rewrite reality so that life itself works on vastly different principles."

zergi wrote...

we all know mordin created the reapers.

Had to be him. Someone else might've gotten it wrong.

[MothrascoolerthenGodzilla]

Anyone played with dead Mordin? I assume his replacement does get it wrong?

[Rifneno]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Blubox wrote...

just something quick here.
can i buy a copy of ME2 somewhere with all dlc? For xbox360. i dont want to download them again. my me2 version has a small crack on disc1 + i would like the game in english.

The beauty of owning a ps3. Mass effect 2 with all dlc - arrival for only $20.

On the downside, you have to aim with a controller.

I can handle insanity on any of the ME's on PC.  I get killed a few times here and there, but I never get really stuck.  I only have ME1 on a console (360 of course) but easy mode loves me long time.  With a circular saw.

[Skillz1986]

" Nothing, nothing will ever beat "jump into this weird beam to rewrite reality so that life itself works on vastly different principles."

Didn't even bother to mention this. i did 3 playthroughs now and somehow i was never able to push myself towards chosing control or synthesis. BUT at least in those two options the triggering mechanism makes some kind of sense. the outcome is, as i have mentioned before, insultingly stupid (at least to me. no offense to people who picked those choices). But the trigger for destroy is...destroying a part of the device which is supposed to help you. why would anyone do that. You don't just destroy a crucial part of your last hope, hoping it will trigger a positive reaction.

[Sammuthegreat]

Skillz1986 wrote...BUT at least in those two options the triggering mechanism makes some kind of sense.

Um... how exactly?

[Simon_Says]

None of the triggers make sense unless you apply the Anderson/TIM/Shepard color-coded-for-your-convenience cutscenes as being part of what Shepard experienced.

Yeah, totally not suspicious. Not only does is it implied that the Catalyst could poke through Shepard's memories, but actually impart information directly.

Modifié par Simon_Says, 09 avril 2012 - 10:04 .

[Sire Styx]

Let's imagine that my computer is the catalyst.
So to turn it on, I have to:

-poke my fingers in the plug
-climb into the CD drive and fuse with the laser
-shoot it until it explodes

Hmm.... something seems wrong here.....

[Sammuthegreat]

Simon_Says wrote...

None of the triggers make sense unless you apply the Anderson/TIM/Shepard color-coded-for-your-convenience cutscenes as being part of what Shepard experienced.

Yeah, totally not suspicious.

Even so, how do the triggers make sense? How does gripping two random beams of electricity and then dissolving make you control the reaper horde? How does shooting a random pipe cause all the reapers to spontaneously shut down? And how in god's name does jumping into an arbitrary beam of light and then dissolving cause the DNA of every creature in the galaxy to be re-written?

[Simon_Says]

Sire Styx wrote...

-climb into the CD drive and fuse with the laser

Well it worked in Tron...

[Skillz1986]

Thinking about it, SYMBOLIC MEANING (sinister music)

in control, you grab those two tubes. you get electrocuted but you kind of "fight it". Keeping in mind, you're believing this will let you control the reapers, the real life outcome could be:
imdoctrination with attempts to resist it.

In synthesis, you throw yourself into that beam like a damn rockstar. no hesitation at all. you just give in. result:

Fully indoctrinated.
In destroy, you shoot that tube right in the face like shepard always does. You fight! Result:

You break free.

Far fetched, i know. but what else is there to do

[Falloutwarfare]

@skillz for all 3 options you need to trust star brat and i dont trust no kid with the galaxy

But for control for all we no is just gonna shock ya to death
For synthasis that beam could just melt you into yummy reaper paste
So when you think about it shooting something makes as much sense as the others

Well it also makes about as much sense RGB energy beems of space voodoo

[Simon_Says]

Also, you'd think the Catalyst would mention something about the destruction of the relay network... if it wasn't trying to deceive Shepard in some fashion, even if just by omission.

[MothrascoolerthenGodzilla]

I actually think Synthesis and Control's triggers kind of make sense. For Synthesis, you figure they need some sample bio dna to get the job done. For control, there needs to be direct input to try and control the reapers.

But destroy? Come on...

[Blubox]

Rifneno wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Blubox wrote...

just something quick here.
can i buy a copy of ME2 somewhere with all dlc? For xbox360. i dont want to download them again. my me2 version has a small crack on disc1 + i would like the game in english.

The beauty of owning a ps3. Mass effect 2 with all dlc - arrival for only $20.

On the downside, you have to aim with a controller.

I can handle insanity on any of the ME's on PC.  I get killed a few times here and there, but I never get really stuck.  I only have ME1 on a console (360 of course) but easy mode loves me long time.  With a circular saw.

lol. that is a problem i always have. i can't aim. that's why i usually play as an adept(?). which was extremly very not good in me2 on insanity. it took me 8hrs to kill the damn reaper. 8hrs!!!
but its really easy in me3 as an adapt. only maurauder shields killed me. i was so proud of him.

arrival for 20$??
i payed 10€! (almost 10$)

[Skillz1986]

@sammu... i did not say they actually make sense. At least i was not trying to. what i was trying to say was, that touching something (activating it) makes mor sense than destroying an apparently crucial part of a device in order to activate it. that's it. i'm a strong supporter of IT..always have been. don't get me wrong. in fact, i was trying to hint at indoc by saying that shooting that tube, would in no way activate the crucible. Hence, bs