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MassEffectFan11 wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Just watched some "debunking IT" vids on YouTube... Seemed to support IT more as none of their "evidence" held up. One guy kept using the excuse that it's "convenience for videogames sake" argument. I watched a 14 minute video on why we're wrong on the child not existing at the start of the game... Only to be more sure that he doesn't exist.

It seems we have the more intelligent people supporting the IT theory and most of the "debunkers" seem to be trolling.

I would like to be able to be respectful and say it's more of a "IT believers say 1 is less than 2, IT debunkers say 2 is less than 3" type situation where nobody is really "wrong" and it's just differing ideas, but at this point I don't think that's true anymore. IT seems too true to say it's just a differing idea now.


I watched a lot debunk videos to and all of them just pointed out really small details that "disprove IT" like the rebar in the breath scene re actually wires and Shepard was holding his side the whole time so Anderson getting shot didn't hurt him. Also since a marine looked at the shuttle that the kid was getting Into the kid has to be real.

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Seriously though, what are you doing when you are chasing the kid in the dream?   You are following him.   We see Shepard standing next to him and he is burning up along with the kid. I took it to mean that if you follow the kid then that path will lead you to your own destruction.

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As much as I'd like to believe IT is what is in store for us, sadly I don't think its the case. I think it might have been Bioware's orginal plan, but do to time, costs, deadlines, etc we got what we got.

It could have been the best mind **** to ever grace a video game. Instead we get clarification of space magic.

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anyone ever beat GB on Nintendo
 Edit: sorry ctrl V fail

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CLB17 wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Just watched some "debunking IT" vids on YouTube... Seemed to support IT more as none of their "evidence" held up. One guy kept using the excuse that it's "convenience for videogames sake" argument. I watched a 14 minute video on why we're wrong on the child not existing at the start of the game... Only to be more sure that he doesn't exist.

It seems we have the more intelligent people supporting the IT theory and most of the "debunkers" seem to be trolling.

I would like to be able to be respectful and say it's more of a "IT believers say 1 is less than 2, IT debunkers say 2 is less than 3" type situation where nobody is really "wrong" and it's just differing ideas, but at this point I don't think that's true anymore. IT seems too true to say it's just a differing idea now.


I watched a lot debunk videos to and all of them just pointed out really small details that "disprove IT" like the rebar in the breath scene re actually wires and Shepard was holding his side the whole time so Anderson getting shot didn't hurt him. Also since a marine looked at the shuttle that the kid was getting Into the kid has to be real.

 
The gaurd scene is hard to pinpint where he is looking with the visor blocking his eyes. He could just be watching the people in the shuttle, but then again the question pops. "Why did the shuttle wait for the boy to get on before it left." They could have easily left if the boy wasn't real. Idk.

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so sorry image being dumb

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ArenCordial wrote...

As much as I'd like to believe IT is what is in store for us, sadly I don't think its the case. I think it might have been Bioware's orginal plan, but do to time, costs, deadlines, etc we got what we got.

It could have been the best mind **** to ever grace a video game. Instead we get clarification of space magic.


Godammit man! Hold the line! HOLD THE LINE! :D

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There is no motivational poster sarcastic enough to describe that insanely long wall of text.

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The time to develop an IT expansion isn't an factor if they have been working on it in secret for a while. For all we know, they could have been. And now, we know for a fact that they've got a few more months of development time. I say we give them a chance and don't jump to conclusions about whether or not IT is true.

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oh it was good believe me

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ArenCordial wrote...

 Instead we get clarification of space magic.



What was it Angry Joe said in his video about the Extended Cut DLC?

Something along the lines of "Its like they're explaining why their crap stinks, instead of giving us someting that isnt smelly crap"?

That sounds about right.

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If I had to choose just one piece of evIdence that proved the existence of IT, the biggest clue of IT, is that destroying the reapers is a renegade option. To me that Is the biggest tip off something is wrong.

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wtf is wrong wit dis

Modifié par UrgedDuke, 10 avril 2012 - 03:15 .


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CLB17 wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Just watched some "debunking IT" vids on YouTube... Seemed to support IT more as none of their "evidence" held up. One guy kept using the excuse that it's "convenience for videogames sake" argument. I watched a 14 minute video on why we're wrong on the child not existing at the start of the game... Only to be more sure that he doesn't exist.

It seems we have the more intelligent people supporting the IT theory and most of the "debunkers" seem to be trolling.

I would like to be able to be respectful and say it's more of a "IT believers say 1 is less than 2, IT debunkers say 2 is less than 3" type situation where nobody is really "wrong" and it's just differing ideas, but at this point I don't think that's true anymore. IT seems too true to say it's just a differing idea now.


I watched a lot debunk videos to and all of them just pointed out really small details that "disprove IT" like the rebar in the breath scene re actually wires and Shepard was holding his side the whole time so Anderson getting shot didn't hurt him. Also since a marine looked at the shuttle that the kid was getting Into the kid has to be real.

Well, I say bah to all of that.

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byne wrote...

ArenCordial wrote...

 Instead we get clarification of space magic.



What was it Angry Joe said in his video about the Extended Cut DLC?

Something along the lines of "Its like they're explaining why their crap stinks, instead of giving us someting that isnt smelly crap"?

That sounds about right.

Yea but Angry Joe is well.. <_<

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CLB17 wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

RealStyli wrote...

Just watched some "debunking IT" vids on YouTube... Seemed to support IT more as none of their "evidence" held up. One guy kept using the excuse that it's "convenience for videogames sake" argument. I watched a 14 minute video on why we're wrong on the child not existing at the start of the game... Only to be more sure that he doesn't exist.

It seems we have the more intelligent people supporting the IT theory and most of the "debunkers" seem to be trolling.

I would like to be able to be respectful and say it's more of a "IT believers say 1 is less than 2, IT debunkers say 2 is less than 3" type situation where nobody is really "wrong" and it's just differing ideas, but at this point I don't think that's true anymore. IT seems too true to say it's just a differing idea now.


I watched a lot debunk videos to and all of them just pointed out really small details that "disprove IT" like the rebar in the breath scene re actually wires and Shepard was holding his side the whole time so Anderson getting shot didn't hurt him. Also since a marine looked at the shuttle that the kid was getting Into the kid has to be real.


Shepard is holding his shoulder where Marauder Shields shot him, he doesn't hold his side until the moment Anderson dies.

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AAHHHHHH! It's back! Run for your lives!!

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what the hell why is it doing this to me

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13 & 77. Two of my favorite numbers. Lex0r11, one of my favorite people.

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UrgedDuke wrote...

what the hell why is it doing this to me


Is the link for that picture really that big? Send me the website where the picture is from.

Modifié par lex0r11, 10 avril 2012 - 03:20 .


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it was ctl c ctl v fail

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balance5050 wrote...

Shepard is holding his shoulder where Marauder Shields shot him, he doesn't hold his side until the moment Anderson dies.


Clearly the gut wound is but a flesh wound.   The shoulder injury however was dealt by the last boss in the game so obviously that would hurt more..... 

Shepard isn't afraid to walk towards a tube that he's shooting and is bound to explode in his face so side wounds are nothing. 

Modifié par ArenCordial, 10 avril 2012 - 03:22 .


#34424
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i will try one more time...... be ready for insanely long wall of text if I fail again

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A video from MrBtoungue, the guy wjo made the excellent video concerning the endings. Pretty much sums up my problems with the Indoctrination Theory:


www.youtube.com/watch