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Tven0 wrote...

Starchildren love a bit of this on a Saturday afternoon

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Clarke's Three Laws
are three "laws" of prediction formulated by the British writer and scientist Arthur C. Clarke. They are:
  • When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
  • The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
  • Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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balance5050 wrote...

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@kyzee so the beings of light were created to protect us from "devil machines" AKA reapers?

I gotta say if thats the lore then the being of light are doing one craptastic job of stopping said reapers.

bioware confuses me


No, the lore is that this was all in the "visions" of an "eccentric" Volus, and the reason that in ME3 it says "they don't seem so far fetched" is because everyone assumes that he was referring to Prothean A.I.s. This is just showing that Jessica is basically just a fan for the most part and really doesn't know exactly what the E.C. will contain. But I also beleived she gave them a lot of feedback on I.T. just cause she seems to be a huge fan of it.


Okay, you know what: great catch there. Don't know how I missed that. That lends even more credence to the StarChild being nothing but a liar (::cough:: indoctrination attempt by Harbinger ::cough::). Thanks, balance5050! :)

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Kyzee wrote...

schneeland wrote...

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Red herring, I think...


Yeah, right. Definitely red herring (instead of trout ;)).


Well, yeah, you could see it that way. But as I said, the problem with that it is, how can you point to this tweet being a red herring, but not do the same to all the tweets in support of IT?

For clarity (before any hate comes my way), I still support IT. I am just being a logic based lifeform who sees the world as a series of 1s and 0s. And a lawyer-spawn who loves debate. :lol: Sorry!


No, the whole Klenkory thing is a red Herring, it all came from an eccentric Volus who dug for 20 years and never found anything. Being"S" (plural) would more likely be referring to Prothean V.I.s, thats why in ME3 it says that it "doesn't seem so far fetched now." Back in ME1 they were still considering the Dark Energy ending.

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YEAH, TOWLIE!

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Kyzee wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

@kyzee so the beings of light were created to protect us from "devil machines" AKA reapers?

I gotta say if thats the lore then the being of light are doing one craptastic job of stopping said reapers.

bioware confuses me


No, the lore is that this was all in the "visions" of an "eccentric" Volus, and the reason that in ME3 it says "they don't seem so far fetched" is because everyone assumes that he was referring to Prothean A.I.s. This is just showing that Jessica is basically just a fan for the most part and really doesn't know exactly what the E.C. will contain. But I also beleived she gave them a lot of feedback on I.T. just cause she seems to be a huge fan of it.


Okay, you know what: great catch there. Don't know how I missed that. That lends even more credence to the StarChild being nothing but a liar (::cough:: indoctrination attempt by Harbinger ::cough::). Thanks, balance5050! :)


Yeah, I like discussing the ingame evidence more than all the PR mumbo jumbo. If you look at the game and nothing else, figuring out the enigma of indoctrination is the boss fight. Actually I hope it's the mini boss fight and the real last fight (Harbinger) will be honored some day.

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balance5050 wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

@kyzee so the beings of light were created to protect us from "devil machines" AKA reapers?

I gotta say if thats the lore then the being of light are doing one craptastic job of stopping said reapers.

bioware confuses me


No, the lore is that this was all in the "visions" of an "eccentric" Volus, and the reason that in ME3 it says "they don't seem so far fetched" is because everyone assumes that he was referring to Prothean A.I.s. This is just showing that Jessica is basically just a fan for the most part and really doesn't know exactly what the E.C. will contain. But I also beleived she gave them a lot of feedback on I.T. just cause she seems to be a huge fan of it.


Okay, you know what: great catch there. Don't know how I missed that. That lends even more credence to the StarChild being nothing but a liar (::cough:: indoctrination attempt by Harbinger ::cough::). Thanks, balance5050! :)


Yeah, I like discussing the ingame evidence more than all the PR mumbo jumbo. If you look at the game and nothing else, figuring out the enigma of indoctrination is the boss fight. Actually I hope it's the mini boss fight and the real last fight (Harbinger) will be honored some day.


I drool over the thought of battling Harbinger, too. 

And with that, I leave it for someone to come up with a motivational. :D

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Sometime ago a screenshot of the last datapad found ingame (on Earth near Liara I think) was posted here, but I cant find the post. The datapad deals with a place where people go and come back different.
Somebody would be kind enough to re-post it? Thx.

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captainbob8383 wrote...

Sometime ago a screenshot of the last datapad found ingame (on Earth near Liara I think) was posted here, but I cant find the post. The datapad deals with a place where people go and come back different.
Somebody would be kind enough to re-post it? Thx.


Been wondering about this myself. I don't really wanna replay Cerberus and Earth again for the 3rd time with the same character though.

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balance5050 wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

@kyzee so the beings of light were created to protect us from "devil machines" AKA reapers?

I gotta say if thats the lore then the being of light are doing one craptastic job of stopping said reapers.

bioware confuses me


No, the lore is that this was all in the "visions" of an "eccentric" Volus, and the reason that in ME3 it says "they don't seem so far fetched" is because everyone assumes that he was referring to Prothean A.I.s. This is just showing that Jessica is basically just a fan for the most part and really doesn't know exactly what the E.C. will contain. But I also beleived she gave them a lot of feedback on I.T. just cause she seems to be a huge fan of it.


ok i sort of get it now

but bioware in relation to IT being true or not still confuse me

but QUICK

http://t2.gstatic.co...2q70qrQKiuwNIWA

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Harbinger BOSS FIGHT!!!

http://images2.wikia...x_Harbinger.png
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Spartas Husky wrote...

Harbinger BOSS FIGHT!!!

http://images2.wikia...x_Harbinger.png
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I actually had an idea for a Harbinger boss fight.  I want to get to use the target designator on him, but with the ENTIRE SWORD FLEET!!!  It would be AWESOME to pound Harbinger with every single gun in the fleet.

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That last one was.. not exactly because of the boss fight, it was a pun...

Regardless it worked in a way I didn't thought of :P.

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@dwailing can joker blow a massive hole through harbringers hull and fly the normandy right through it?

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captainbob8383 wrote...

Sometime ago a screenshot of the
last datapad found ingame (on Earth near Liara I think) was posted here,
but I cant find the post. The datapad deals with a place where people
go and come back different.
Somebody would be kind enough to re-post it? Thx.


I have the screenshot, but I don't know how to post it, so I'll write it verbatim:

Sammy where are you? Can't find you, message me back please!!!

People go into that place and come out not the same not human
anymore

Can hear the voices crawling inside the back of my skull whispering
they won't

Stop why won't it stop until I go where the others went get turned into
one of those things

Oh god please makeit stop make itstop makeitsto!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

Won't listen to the voices won't go in there. Can make it stop. Know
what to do.

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InnerTurmoil wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

Sometime ago a screenshot of the
last datapad found ingame (on Earth near Liara I think) was posted here,
but I cant find the post. The datapad deals with a place where people
go and come back different.
Somebody would be kind enough to re-post it? Thx.


I have the screenshot, but I don't know how to post it, so I'll write it verbatim:

Sammy where are you? Can't find you, message me back please!!!

People go into that place and come out not the same not human
anymore

Can hear the voices crawling inside the back of my skull whispering
they won't

Stop why won't it stop until I go where the others went get turned into
one of those things

Oh god please makeit stop make itstop makeitsto!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

Won't listen to the voices won't go in there. Can make it stop. Know
what to do.


Yeah is right next to the officer who is trying tog et the human to stop a soldier's bleeding over the comms. I think.
Remember thy got "processing" centers. Always assume like the war of the worlds movie. Anyone that actually comes out alive is of course sleeper agent.

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Reposting again for awesomeness.

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

@dwailing can joker blow a massive hole through harbringers hull and fly the normandy right through it?


I don't see why not.

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

@dwailing can joker blow a massive hole through harbringers hull and fly the normandy right through it?


Yes he can.

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lex0r11 wrote...

Reposting again for awesomeness.

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oh god, the hilarity.

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@dwailing you sir just made my day as did you Leravelle Posted Image

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I just noticed that in Shep's 2nd dream sequence he didn't seem to be sleeping at all, he was looking at a datapad. It reminds me of Anakin's vision in Star Wars episode 3 when he sees Padme's death and afterwards is seen holding a datapad on a couch just like in Shepard's case

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UrgedDuke wrote...

I just noticed that in Shep's 2nd dream sequence he didn't seem to be sleeping at all, he was looking at a datapad. It reminds me of Anakin's vision in Star Wars episode 3 when he sees Padme's death and afterwards is seen holding a datapad on a couch just like in Shepard's case


..... wow dude never thought of that. it does seem odd. Now that I remember I always asked. "why is there nothing on the datapad?"

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Spartas Husky wrote...

UrgedDuke wrote...

I just noticed that in Shep's 2nd dream sequence he didn't seem to be sleeping at all, he was looking at a datapad. It reminds me of Anakin's vision in Star Wars episode 3 when he sees Padme's death and afterwards is seen holding a datapad on a couch just like in Shepard's case


..... wow dude never thought of that. it does seem odd. Now that I remember I always asked. "why is there nothing on the datapad?"


Huh, weird.  Maybe this suggests that the second dream sequence was a vision?

Edit: Removed "just"

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it is possible that he just nodded off while using the datapad