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[Golferguy758]

DreamTension wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ugh, you guys were right, IT is REALLY unpopular out there. I checked one of the thread about a guy saying he now believes in IT... let's just say that the rest of the people are getting very unpleasant. Hold the Line.

Meh their prerogative to be angry and throw temper tantrums. At least this thread is constructive.

I'm really glad to see this thread still being productive. 

But yes, it's completely anti-IDT on the board.

In many ways, I understand it.  PAX was supposed to be IDT's coming out party and we learned that it wasn't planned (or at least they have not released a plan).
It's hard to argue for IDT now, I believe it because I LIKE it, but I really can't argue for it anymore.  It's best we just keep the IDT conversation here.

I've written this several times, but I still believe that the IDT was meant to be real for the red endings while both blue and green were also real endings that ended the reaper threat. All the endings are real if you chose it. Choosing blue or green does not make you indoctrinated unless you went with the red choice, but sicne you chose red you avoid indoctrination. 

If that makes sense.

[Vahilor]

Harbinger is a she and her real name is Brigit Contessa Harbinger ?

[Sammuthegreat]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ugh, you guys were right, IT is REALLY unpopular out there. I checked one of the thread about a guy saying he now believes in IT... let's just say that the rest of the people are getting very unpleasant. Hold the Line.

Meh their prerogative to be angry and throw temper tantrums. At least this thread is constructive.

True. There are two things ITers and anti-ITers all have in common though - firstly, we pretty much all disliked the ending, and secondly, everyone is getting more and more confused and alienated with every ambiguous statement BioWare produce. Surely, surely they must understand the damage this is doing to their goodwill?

[DreamTension]

Golferguy758 wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ugh, you guys were right, IT is REALLY unpopular out there. I checked one of the thread about a guy saying he now believes in IT... let's just say that the rest of the people are getting very unpleasant. Hold the Line.

Meh their prerogative to be angry and throw temper tantrums. At least this thread is constructive.

I'm really glad to see this thread still being productive. 

But yes, it's completely anti-IDT on the board.

In many ways, I understand it.  PAX was supposed to be IDT's coming out party and we learned that it wasn't planned (or at least they have not released a plan).
It's hard to argue for IDT now, I believe it because I LIKE it, but I really can't argue for it anymore.  It's best we just keep the IDT conversation here.

I've written this several times, but I still believe that the IDT was meant to be real for the red endings while both blue and green were also real endings that ended the reaper threat. All the endings are real if you chose it. Choosing blue or green does not make you indoctrinated unless you went with the red choice, but sicne you chose red you avoid indoctrination. 

If that makes sense.

Not arguing your case.  I think Indoctrination was definitely going to be a part of the game(that is proven--that IPAD app pretty much said it was planned, but taken out).  
I understand IDT very well and agree with it immensely.  I would have respected BioWare ten-fold if they 1) actually planned it or 2) went with it anyway.  It would have been a game changing (pun intended) move.

But let's not get into all of that.
Anyway, I only meant to keep the IDT talk here.  It is getting really annoying seeing a new post (IDT is real!....etc.etc...).  It's also a little depressing...

[Sammuthegreat]

Golferguy758 wrote...
I've written this several times, but I still believe that the IDT was meant to be real for the red endings while both blue and green were also real endings that ended the reaper threat. All the endings are real if you chose it. Choosing blue or green does not make you indoctrinated unless you went with the red choice, but sicne you chose red you avoid indoctrination. 

If that makes sense.

I've seen this posted a few times (probably by you ) but I don't agree with it. I don't like the idea that all those plot holes, and hints at indoctrination, might be completely swept under the rug in 2/3 endings. It also doesn't do anything to solve any of the plot holes inherent to the whole sequence post-Harby's-beam, especially the StarBrat scene which would still make absolutely no sense.

God, I feel like all I do is come on this board nowadays. It's absurd, this isn't how a brilliant series is supposed to end.

[Falloutwarfare]

@rifneno i always thought that the lack of middle tentacle was so he could easily use his 2 lasers more easily or fire them more quickly than other reapers as seen in the final charge, either that or he just has a unique design being the oldest of his kind and all

[Dwailing]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...
I've written this several times, but I still believe that the IDT was meant to be real for the red endings while both blue and green were also real endings that ended the reaper threat. All the endings are real if you chose it. Choosing blue or green does not make you indoctrinated unless you went with the red choice, but sicne you chose red you avoid indoctrination. 

If that makes sense.

I've seen this posted a few times (probably by you ) but I don't agree with it. I don't like the idea that all those plot holes, and hints at indoctrination, might be completely swept under the rug in 2/3 endings. It also doesn't do anything to solve any of the plot holes inherent to the whole sequence post-Harby's-beam, especially the StarBrat scene which would still make absolutely no sense.

God, I feel like all I do is come on this board nowadays. It's absurd, this isn't how a brilliant series is supposed to end.

I know, this thread is great and all, but it's really giving me issues with finishing my homework.

[Golferguy758]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...
I've written this several times, but I still believe that the IDT was meant to be real for the red endings while both blue and green were also real endings that ended the reaper threat. All the endings are real if you chose it. Choosing blue or green does not make you indoctrinated unless you went with the red choice, but sicne you chose red you avoid indoctrination. 

If that makes sense.

I've seen this posted a few times (probably by you ) but I don't agree with it. I don't like the idea that all those plot holes, and hints at indoctrination, might be completely swept under the rug in 2/3 endings. It also doesn't do anything to solve any of the plot holes inherent to the whole sequence post-Harby's-beam, especially the StarBrat scene which would still make absolutely no sense.

God, I feel like all I do is come on this board nowadays. It's absurd, this isn't how a brilliant series is supposed to end.

I figure if they do a good enough job explaining it they can all make sense. Yay Extended cut

Out of all the endings, I still lean most to red/IT, but that'll always be my headcanon ending even if Bioware says otherwise.

[Kyzee]

 Can't post much any more today. But it's disappointing to hear that there's so much hate out there for IT. I mean, considering the hostility that we've gotten from random people at times, I'm not that surprised, but seriously, why so much hatred and anger?

I'm glad I only post in this thread now. It's still nice and sane (most of the time, lol), and filled with awesome people. Is like warm blanket. 


Now, to hope that nothing explodes while I'm gone. 

Modifié par Kyzee, 10 avril 2012 - 09:18 .

[schneeland]

Dwailing wrote...

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...
I've written this several times, but I still believe that the IDT was meant to be real for the red endings while both blue and green were also real endings that ended the reaper threat. All the endings are real if you chose it. Choosing blue or green does not make you indoctrinated unless you went with the red choice, but sicne you chose red you avoid indoctrination. 

If that makes sense.

I've seen this posted a few times (probably by you ) but I don't agree with it. I don't like the idea that all those plot holes, and hints at indoctrination, might be completely swept under the rug in 2/3 endings. It also doesn't do anything to solve any of the plot holes inherent to the whole sequence post-Harby's-beam, especially the StarBrat scene which would still make absolutely no sense.

God, I feel like all I do is come on this board nowadays. It's absurd, this isn't how a brilliant series is supposed to end.

I know, this thread is great and all, but it's really giving me issues with finishing my homework.

Homework is overrated, anyway

But I agree with Sammu - while I immensely enjoyed theorizing with you guys, it was supposed to be different .... a charge at the fields of Pellenor, only in space. And after successfully driving the reapers back to their dark space caves, we would have come here to share our favourite moments, post motivationals with Chakwas and Shepard drinking that whiskey and Wrex despairing at the sight of his dozen Krogan sons and daughters ...

[schneeland]

Kyzee wrote...

[...]

Now, to hope that nothing explodes while I'm gone. 

Rest assured we are all ensnared by those furry creatures' hyper-cuteness

[ShadyJ]

I hope that one of the writers was punched for these endings, because if the theory isn't true then there are so many plot holes it causes the fans to demand a redo, and if it is true then it's not finished. It's artistic and poetic and I can respect that, but alienating your fans to try and make it pretty is not the way to go.

[N7xELITE]

Bioware have come up with a solution = Shepard's future self goes back in time and stops Shepard from joining the alliance and gets Conrad to take his place.

Modifié par N7xELITE, 10 avril 2012 - 09:37 .

[Apollo-XL5]

Tge writers have not confirmed nor denied IT, so that leaves it pretty much in play. IThink that oif it wasnt true then they would have said so, just like they did with the new endings rumor.

[RealStyli]

So what's new?

I spent my day off catching up on Game Of Thrones. If I hadn't been let down by the ending of ME3, I probably would've been playing the multiplayer or starting my renegade play-through.... *sigh*

[Falloutwarfare]

schneeland wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

[...]

Now, to hope that nothing explodes while I'm gone. 

Rest assured we are all ensnared by those furry creatures' hyper-cuteness

http://t2.gstatic.co...ODVpRW-j3VOv-x8

Mordin Approves

[Vahilor]

N7xELITE wrote...

Bioware have come up with a solution = Shepard's future self goes back in time and stops Shepard from joining the alliance and get Conrad to take his place.

And the whole Galaxy will go to hell XD

[Apollo-XL5]

Rifneno wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Really?  I must have missed that, too.  Indoctrination!!!  jk, jk  I still think that Shepard started seeing things even before he was knocked out, that would explain the shrubs and trees from the dreams.  The tentacle.... well, I don't know about that one.  

Edit: Wow, I just looked up a picture of Harbinger.  You're right, Rifneno.

Double Edit: Just to clarify, I do not think the missing tentacle was indoc.  It was not there even before the final scene.

Yeah...  I'm just wondering whether he lost it in battle or if he never had that one.  Found this pic on Gildor's forum showing Harbinger next to a regular capital ship:

That picture says it all.
Harbinger is the leadeer, while the rest are simply drone(other sovereign, destroyer, carrier classes).

[N7xELITE]

Vahilor wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Bioware have come up with a solution = Shepard's future self goes back in time and stops Shepard from joining the alliance and get Conrad to take his place.

And the whole Galaxy will go to hell XD

Yeah XD and they will blame it on conrad verner. 

[Earthborn_Shepard]

RealStyli wrote...

So what's new?

I spent my day off catching up on Game Of Thrones. If I hadn't been let down by the ending of ME3, I probably would've been playing the multiplayer or starting my renegade play-through.... *sigh*

I have this theory that the godchild is actually Joffrey..

[Sire Styx]

I can't understand the IT hate.
It's like that whole thing about people hating people who like Tali :S there seems to be no sense in it.

Have we had our own trolls going into other people's threads and attacking people or something?

[An English Gamer]

Personally I would love the the IT to be true. It is just such a flexible and clever thing that Bioware could work with.

[Sammuthegreat]

Sire Styx wrote...

I can't understand the IT hate.
It's like that whole thing about people hating people who like Tali :S there seems to be no sense in it.

Have we had our own trolls going into other people's threads and attacking people or something?

I agree, it seems completely counter-productive considering that most anti-ITers hated the ending too. I think a lot of them are just determined to be angry at BioWare no matter what, and it's pretty hard to convince them otherwise. Just like it'd be pretty hard to convince me that IT isn't true, despite the fact that I'm exasperated and confused by BioWare's post-controversy conduct.

[Sammuthegreat]

EDIT: Oops, internet seems to be misbehaving. Double posted.

Modifié par Sammuthegreat, 10 avril 2012 - 09:51 .