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[Evindell]

With all the inconsistencies of the endings, what really gets me is the destruction of the Mass Relays and the epilogue.

Take away those two things, and destroying the Reapers is the ending I like the best. Take away those two things and this is what you get:

The pulse kills the Reapers (and you could chose to believe that the Geth and EDI survive, considering you aren't shown otherwise), Earth is saved (if you acquired enough forces), and since the relays are still intact that means the other species can go back and rebuild, and the Normandy can be rescued.

See, problem solved.

And the epilogue...it just confused me. There was no need for it.

edit: This is also the one in which Shepard can live, and rejoin his/her people.

Modifié par Evindell, 10 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[k8ee]

^ and this is the only choice where you stay true to your goal - to destroy the reapers

The devs said they would come out with content that would make ME3 playable for a long time. I'm sure I heard this. Wouldn't they want a game that was infinitely playable forever? This sort of ending doesn't give fans that opportunity.

Also, as others have mentioned, it doesn't bode well with the continuation of the mass effect universe. The interaction of the races, the relays, the citadel, they are the soul of the story... 

I don't know, there just has to be hope. Shep goes on and on about hope. And now... all I have is hope, lol

Modifié par k8ee, 10 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[VyRianS]

Just putting this out here: Before I got my copy of ME3, I expected disappointment.

I mean, linking the consequences of all 3 games in the trilogy is no small feat. And linking all of that to the final battle and the outcome was just not feasible enough to make the ME3 endings live up to the hype. Though I was definitely expecting more from the ending we were given.

Anyone feel the same way?

[mupp3tz]

FugitiveMind wrote...

MPSai wrote...

FugitiveMind wrote...

A little more food for thought:

We all have our favorite mainstream review sites (be they the likes of gamespy, ign, gamespot, g4, etc.) and have seen them give some very brutal reviews. I seem to recall Amalur taking some big hits due to bad writing. .

Although I enjoy Amalur it admittedly has weak writing throughout. ME3 only stops making sense at the very end. 

But that's my point, these things get pointed out, even if it's just in passing...

I concentrate on the mainstream sites because these would be the ones "In the know"

So WHY did every site out there step around the over-9000 pound elephant in the room? Some of these reviewers say they loved the series as much as we have said it, they can't have felt good about it, and you'd think that'd color things a bit.

What do they know that we don't?

I highly doubt the high critic praises are because they are "in the know."  It would be bad business practice to leak future DLC plans to major gaming sites, where thousands of employees work, could lead to disastrous leaking.  I think that the critics either a) actually liked the ending, thought everyone else would be singing ME3 praises, so they wanted to get in on the jump early, or c) jumped onto a reviewer bandwagon where one says it's good, so the next feels pressured to do so.

It's also important to note that the job of the reviewer isn't to look at JUST the ending, but the whole game combined.  It feels like many of us feel like pre-Crucible, the game was anywhere between an 8-10 and easily GOTY.  It's that last punch in the gut that makes it awful.

Modifié par M U P P 3 T Z, 10 mars 2012 - 04:48 .

[Flapperrr]

It is possible that the developers wait until we do not understand their idea?

[Tamcia]

It has to be. It makes no sense.... DA2 all over again....

[Evindell]

I feel like I've been Inception-ed.

[FugitiveMind]

M U P P 3 T Z wrote...

I highly doubt the high critic praises are because they are "in the know."  It would be bad business practice to leak future DLC plans to major gaming sites, where thousands of employees work, could lead to disastrous leaking.  I think that the critics either a) actually liked the ending, thought everyone else would be singing ME3 praises, so they wanted to get in on the jump early, or c) jumped onto a reviewer bandwagon where one says it's good, so the next feels pressured to do so.

It's also important to note that the job of the reviewer isn't to look at JUST the ending, but the whole game combined.  It feels like many of us feel like pre-Crucible, the game was anywhere between an 8-10 and easily GOTY.  It's that last punch in the gut that makes it awful.

I disagree here. The reason the smaller sites are trashing the endings, and the mainstream ones are praising the games as a whole is easy.

The mainstream sites do business off of having their news first, and most are VERY careful about NDAs or else in this case EA would stop giving them anything (advanced copies to review, new info, etc.) which would destroy their business. Small sites with nothing to lose you're absolutely right, it'd be "N-D-what?".

They're not going to go back and amend a review, and the review is what people look at originally, so it HAS to have all the pertinant information. Also look at what you usually get when an epic title is released. Most of your mainstream sites drive it into the ground with their own articles on it, but this time around it has just been wiki links and how-tos. None of the usual "other editor" articles, no "fan reaction" articles which are bread and butter usually.

I said this in another thread:
The more I look at this, the more I think to paraphrase Blasto:
Bioware is "Engaging in reproductive behaviour with these ones"

Besides, this is the hallucination, drink the kool-aid, crazy theory thread...

Why not a little conspiracy too?

[DifferentD17]

"Jump into that big laser, and everything will be fine.... Or... Grab those electric things and don't let go everything will be fine! I won't say much about shooting that thing over there though.. you can and betray all Geth and EDI, but there are other better options...."

You tricky bastard... You're just saying that so I don't shoot it...

"Nah I said you could..."

But I die instantly in the other options...

".... but everything will be fine after that...."

Modifié par DifferentD17, 10 mars 2012 - 05:08 .

[Valk72]

Another element who contribute to this theory, the fact that Shepard is on earth in one piece when you consider the effect an atmospheric-entry.

[humes spork]

VyRianS wrote...

I mean, linking the consequences of all 3 games in the trilogy is no small feat. And linking all of that to the final battle and the outcome was just not feasible enough to make the ME3 endings live up to the hype.

Here's the rub: you're right, doing all that is no small feat. Yet, right up until the space-kid/godhead/AI/whatever they'd pulled it off. Phenomenally so, beyond even my expectations as a jaded, cynical gamer who views the entire industry nowadays as a handful of major publishing firms screwing over developers, capturing game journalism, and bilking gamers for everything they're worth with zero sense of ethics, integrity, or artistry in a self-perpetuating cycle of unfettered, unshackled capitalism in which any human being with an iota of conscience should be sickened to witness.

[mupp3tz]

I don't know. The whole thing with the critics LOVING the game and the mass player fan base is just really bizarre to begin with. Why would Bioware release a game that they call "complete right out of the box," and only include a crap ending for the mass market? ...but then give reviewers a supposedly better ending/information about what WILL happen? The reviews don't make sense, then. They aren't reviewing ME3, but ME3 + DLC + etc. etc. DLC's are typically reviewed on their own, and not included in the initial main game review.

But, in the end, I do admit there's something fishy about the huge disagreement between the public and the critics.

[sorentoft]

Wishful thinking.

[k8ee]

Maybe, but it's the only thing preventing me from being totally devastated.

[FugitiveMind]

And also the only thing that'll allow me to play this game again.

I poured a lot of time into a lot of toons, and a lot of money into content to enjoy this series.

If joining the tin foil brigade is the only way to continue my enjoyment, then I say bring on the Reynolds Wrap...

[TheRevanchist]

Hey guys...idk if anyones ever mentioned this...or is even aware...but on the last page of the Collectors Edition Art Book....it says "The Crucible is meant to evoke an enormous, rocket-propelled bomb: something like a cross between the Trinity Bomb and a NASA space probe."


So uh....the Crucible did nothing like this....at all....coincidence?

[Flapperrr]

Shep, at the end of the second part, was ready to meet the Reaper chest, and the third just seemed somehow not so. Not in the form completely. There is clearly something wrong. It is necessary to analyze proveti parallel with the third book.

[Evindell]

Does anyone have any idea about this supposed "secret" ending for beating the game twice? IGN mentions it under New Game+

[k8ee]

the secret ending is just the star gazer thing at the end of the credits.

The reason why believing the choices are a dream is the only way the game has replay value, for me anyway, because for me to work hard choosing things exactly as I do, and to still not be rewarded with the ending I desire means the game failed me. Honestly, a game about choice, where you plot your destiny, should give us the ending we want.

This is a video game, a story meant to help us escape a realty that is already bleak. I just can't believe they gave us a game that just reaffirms that there is no hope, and then doesn't tell us anything about the characters we have become so attached to.

All those multiple playthroughs, it was about armouring our Sheps with everything we could so that THEY WOULD SURVIVE, or at least be strong enough to make the decision that works for their character.

[littleork]

Haha this thread is still going huh? For people who said that too many people would be mad at them if this was a fake ending, well yes they would be mad but most people would buy a dlc with a real ending, i would only hope that it is a very long dlc, you waking up with plenty of things to do before you can save the Earth, and by yourself to make it harder.

Modifié par littleork, 10 mars 2012 - 05:50 .

[lookingglassmind]

Edited.

Modifié par lookingglassmind, 10 mars 2012 - 05:59 .

[blind black]

after reading all of these post i think you guys are on to something. after the reap-beam nothing really makes sense.

1) magic gun
2)armor is gone
3)squad is gone and why would they just leave you?
4) illusive man comes out of nowhere and anderson somehow gets a head of you. plus when you look around that room there is no other way to the panel room.
5)illusvie man pulls gun out of andersons ***
6)god child
7)why is the normandy flying through a mass relay?
8)and on the Orgy Planet why is there no look of concern on your teams face?

[Ghrelt]

Anyone else think that planet the Normandy landed on looks *exactly* like Virmire?

[Evindell]

I have a problem with the Stargazer epilogue.

It makes it sound as if suddenly Earth has forgotten everything that happened. As I pointed out in an earlier post, you gathered these forces of Turians, Asari, Krogan, Salarians, Quarians, and the Geth, and now they're stranded on Earth. Because there are no Mass Relays (which I am refusing to acknowledge). How could the epilogue happen like that? The old man is talking as if they've never had space travel. Even we have space travel (in 2012). It's not space travel the way Mass Effect is, but we can send shuttles into space. How does the epilogue make any sense whatsoever?

[Lurchibald]

Evindell wrote...

I feel like I've been Inception-ed.

I feel like this happened... 
www.milkandcookies.com/link/225192/detail/