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[schneeland]

blooregard wrote...

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Does this mean that we can NOW stop looking at what Jess says as fact? Not only will she give you hope at one point just to crush it into the dirt but it seems as though she doesn't really think about what she tweets or doesn't recall major details from the game/real life (the Normandy landing on atmosphereless desert land Mars or single mooned Earth)


I think its safe to assume most of Jess' tweets are from the stand point of a fan and only of a fan any info digging from her will result in confusion and contradiction.

I wonder whether that actually allows to still call her a real fan. It's really hard to miss that there's reaper tech in EDI - in particular, when you spent some time hanging around with other ME fans at the forums or on Twitter. Seems a bit like her job is mainly to look cute and keep people busy.

Modifié par schneeland, 11 avril 2012 - 10:40 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Ravel1992 wrote...

 
 car?

sorry, but my imagination can only make up things so far.

nah, don't see a car there, sorry.

At first I thought it looked like part of the beam/conduit, can't really say for sure with just the partial glance, but it definitley looks something...Reaper tech-like in my opinion.

[balance5050]

Nauks wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Nauks wrote...

RoyalGambit wrote...

Btw, just finished replaying 1 and 2. Isn't it a little convenient that Arrival (the ME3 prequel mind you) deals with the theme of indoctrination, has Shepard come into contact with a Reaper artefact, has him hallucinating, and also has Kenson spare Shepard's life because they "need him alive". Maybe I'm seeing what I want to see, but thought it was noteworthy.

Thought of this aswell, I wasn't the biggest fan of Arrival, but have since grown to appreciate it.
One of the things that pissed me off about it though, was that Shepard seemed immune to friggin indoctrination.

Another plus with IT, it makes Arrival better >

well, he DID hear Reaper voices in his mind and saw black shadows in Arrival...

He did, and were it not for IT, I would very much like to know what Shepard did to seemingly walk off indoctrination in ME3.

That's the problem for me, I'm puttin' my tinfoil hat on. There is a conspiracy either way, cause if this mountain of clues is pointing at indoctrination, and all of a sudden that story element dissappears, what happened to it? I could let it go if one of your teamates were indoctrinated as a twist, BUT IT NEVER WENT ANYWHERE.

Most of us knew that using reaper tech is always a bad idea, and it's why Cerberus wasn't being attacked until the very end. I know it never really went any where but I destroyed the collector base. I knew that he was going to bite off more than he can chew and I tried to save him from that. So what does TIM do when he realizes the crucible plan? He ****ing TELL'S THE REAPERS!?! If he wasn't in control before he went to the Citadel he definitely wasn't after. The reapers indoctrinated him right there, otherwise he would have CONTROLLED THE REAPERS!

So no matter what, I think TIM would have amounted to more than just another Saren. The biggest plot hole for me is, what makes Shepard so immune to indoctrination?

Modifié par balance5050, 11 avril 2012 - 10:46 .

[darkiddd]

This may have been said before after 1400+ pages  but I've realized that after you get lazered by harbinger apart from the weird shrubs, mako, corpses etc... there's a lot of wind in the surroundings. Before that there wasn't and after it's like you were travelling in a great speed in some sort of platform. Look at the animation on the background. It's the same one you see in arrival when you go outside the station and the asteroid is going to hit the relay.  
You also spoke with harbinger in arrival while this was happening so maybe shepard's mind made up this in the dream just after being hit by him?

Another sign of indoctrination perhaps?
 

[Vanek86]

Shes tweeting again about EDI

[RealStyli]

Arayne wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

We need to all agree on a name for godchild imo.

I'm in favor of godchild.

I also saw someone call him Task Manager, because he lets you CTRL the Reapers, ALTer all life in the galaxy, or DELete all synthetics. I like that name too.

I personally prefer Star-Brat.

"The Catalyst?" 

/hides

I can't stop laughing at this.

How about "it"?

[Earthborn_Shepard]

RealStyli wrote...

Arayne wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

We need to all agree on a name for godchild imo.

I'm in favor of godchild.

I also saw someone call him Task Manager, because he lets you CTRL the Reapers, ALTer all life in the galaxy, or DELete all synthetics. I like that name too.

I personally prefer Star-Brat.

"The Catalyst?" 

/hides

I can't stop laughing at this.

How about "it"?

OH GOD THE CATALYST IS PENNYWISE

[schneeland]

RealStyli wrote...

Arayne wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

We need to all agree on a name for godchild imo.

I'm in favor of godchild.

I also saw someone call him Task Manager, because he lets you CTRL the Reapers, ALTer all life in the galaxy, or DELete all synthetics. I like that name too.

I personally prefer Star-Brat.

"The Catalyst?" 

/hides

I can't stop laughing at this.

How about "it"?

Equally scary I guess ... I found hologram kid to fit best for me (heard it first in a video on youtube)

[SirLugash]

https://twitter.com/...207741913071616
This statement totally contradicts to what Starchild is saying...

[IronSabbath88]

You know, for a DLC that was a direct lead in to the events of Mass Effect 3, they really didn't pay all that much attention to it. Aside from Anderson and some Batarians mentioning it from time to time..

Unless... it had a far bigger impact than we thought originally.

[Kelwing]

In ME3 it was mentioned EDI is based off the Hannibal VI from Luna and Reaper code. Just like the Geth are now partially based on Reaper code not tech. Again assuming what Starbrat says is even true in regards to all synthetics being killed.

Also why was there a retreat as heard by Shep? When the one and only job Hammer had was to get as many as possible into the conduit beam and on the Citidel. Was a one way trip for all involved. Do or die time. If Harbinger had left, then anyone still alive and mobile would have been making their way to the beam. Retreat was not an option given by Anderson.

Modifié par Kelwing, 11 avril 2012 - 10:47 .

[balance5050]

SirLugash wrote...

https://twitter.com/...207741913071616
This statement totally contradicts to what Starchild is saying...

If this is accurate then the theory is at least partially correct.

[Asharad Hett]

Starkid said "You can wipe out all synthetic life if you want. Even you are partly synthetic." And EDI is part reaper Tech and 100% synthetic. WTH, Jessica?

[Kyzee]

Just bumping as it got buried. Don't want to see hate going Jessica Merizan's way.

Kyzee wrote...

 Hey, everyone! I'm back! 

So while everyone's in a tizzy over Jessica Merizan's tweets, I thought I'd add my two cents.

This illustrates the danger of putting more weight in some tweets than others. It's much safer, as balance5050 noted, to focus on the in game evidence than the tweets and PR statements of BioWare.

Then again, I would also argue that said tweets and statements should be paid attention to, due to the risk of alienating fans IDT by teasing them and not following through . . . yadda, yadda, yadda. Okay, my even-handedness is getting out of control again; my apologies. 

Point being, everything from here to the DLC (indeed, everything from ME3's release until now) is nothing but speculation, and no one can definitively declare what the ending or content of the DLC is or will. Only the developers know that, folks. So let's just enjoy our speculation fest, yes? 

Edit: Ha, you guys beat me to the link! Removed.
Edited for correct info. Whoopsie.

[blooregard]

schneeland wrote...

blooregard wrote...

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Does this mean that we can NOW stop looking at what Jess says as fact? Not only will she give you hope at one point just to crush it into the dirt but it seems as though she doesn't really think about what she tweets or doesn't recall major details from the game/real life (the Normandy landing on atmosphereless desert land Mars or single mooned Earth)


I think its safe to assume most of Jess' tweets are from the stand point of a fan and only of a fan any info digging from her will result in confusion and contradiction.

I wonder whether that actually allows to still call her a real fan. It's really hard to miss that there's reaper tech in EDI - in particular, when you spent some time hanging around with other ME fans at the forums or on Twitter. Seems a bit like her job is mainly to look cute and keep people busy.

As big as EDI being made with reaper tech is in the story things ARE missable. The whole "I was made with Sovereign hardware" convo is easily missed if you don't talk to EDI much, and the stuff on TIM's space station while not missible gameplay wise is certainly missible through somebody talking or not paying attention.


I'll give her the benifit of the doubt but the sooner we stop asking her story questions the sooner things on here will be much better.

[Gormane01]

blooregard wrote...

schneeland wrote...

blooregard wrote...

[...]

Does this mean that we can NOW stop looking at what Jess says as fact? Not only will she give you hope at one point just to crush it into the dirt but it seems as though she doesn't really think about what she tweets or doesn't recall major details from the game/real life (the Normandy landing on atmosphereless desert land Mars or single mooned Earth)


I think its safe to assume most of Jess' tweets are from the stand point of a fan and only of a fan any info digging from her will result in confusion and contradiction.

I wonder whether that actually allows to still call her a real fan. It's really hard to miss that there's reaper tech in EDI - in particular, when you spent some time hanging around with other ME fans at the forums or on Twitter. Seems a bit like her job is mainly to look cute and keep people busy.

As big as EDI being made with reaper tech is in the story things ARE missable. The whole "I was made with Sovereign hardware" convo is easily missed if you don't talk to EDI much, and the stuff on TIM's space station while not missible gameplay wise is certainly missible through somebody talking or not paying attention.


I'll give her the benifit of the doubt but the sooner we stop asking her story questions the sooner things on here will be much better.

But EDI herself was made from the Alliance VI in Luna Base. Seems reasonable to say she wasn't really made from Reaper tech, just had a few bits in her.

[Evo_9]

Asharad Hett wrote...

Starkid said "You can wipe out all synthetic life if you want. Even you are partly synthetic." And EDI is part reaper Tech and 100% synthetic. WTH, Jessica?

Ever thought the catalyst might not be 100% honest? Why do you assume it cant manipulate/lie

Modifié par Evo_9, 11 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[Golferguy758]

How Jessica and Bioware are acting currently: ( I say this is good harmless fun )

[balance5050]

Kelwing wrote...

In ME3 it was mentioned EDI is based off the Hannibal VI from Luna and Reaper code. Just like the Geth are now partially based on Reaper code not tech. Again assuming what Starbrat says is even true in regards to all synthetics being killed.

Also why was there a retreat as heard by Shep? When the one and only job Hammer had was to get as many as possible into the conduit beam and on the Citidel. Was a one way trip for all involved. Do or die time. If Harbinger had left, then anyone still alive and mobile would have been making their way to the beam. Retreat was not an option given by Anderson.

Yeah it's BS, right when the lazer hits you, Coats says "pull back" and it's all echoey, "no one made". Either they're blind or Shepard is on the ground in real life.  

[Kyzee]

Evo_9 wrote...

Asharad Hett wrote...

Starkid said "You can wipe out all synthetic life if you want. Even you are partly synthetic." And EDI is part reaper Tech and 100% synthetic. WTH, Jessica?

Ever thought the catalyst might not be 100% honest? Why do you assume it cant manipulate/lie

Hee hee.  But yeah, I think the StarChild's clearly a liar.

Modifié par Kyzee, 11 avril 2012 - 11:02 .

[Arian Dynas]

Sire Styx wrote...

100% real. Shepard's eyes turn to TIM's Reaperized ones in both synthesis and control. Hard to see and you need still frames from a good video to be positive but it's definitely true.

I can't deny this is present and all, and it absolutely is weird and solid proof of some connection between TIM and Shepard in those endings, but can someone please show me that supposedly, Saren and the Husks share the same eyes? It's not much proof it we can't connect it to the Reapers.

[chidingewe8036]

I've posted before and I am going to post it again, THE INDOCTRINATION THEORY IS TRUE, Biofail can deny it all they want, it is their only reedeming strategy other than making a totally new ending. AngryJoe said exactly what I have been saying sense they announced this so called EXTENDED CUT CRAP, why add more crap to an already crappy a** ending? just does not make any logical sense.

Before Bioware came up with that crappy ending this is what really happened a few minutes before......

Harbinger - "Bioware studios in sight, Assuming Direct Control"

So that is what happened ladies and gentlemen, that is the only possible way Bioware could make an epic fail of an ending they are all INDOCTRINATED

[PrimeOfValor]

I kinda wish it was, because that way it more sense to the ending. The fans of this series found way too many clues for this coindeinence.

[SirLugash]

https://twitter.com/...211233809571841
This basically proofs that Starchild was lying...

[blooregard]

Gormane01 wrote...

blooregard wrote...

schneeland wrote...

blooregard wrote...

[...]

Does this mean that we can NOW stop looking at what Jess says as fact? Not only will she give you hope at one point just to crush it into the dirt but it seems as though she doesn't really think about what she tweets or doesn't recall major details from the game/real life (the Normandy landing on atmosphereless desert land Mars or single mooned Earth)


I think its safe to assume most of Jess' tweets are from the stand point of a fan and only of a fan any info digging from her will result in confusion and contradiction.

I wonder whether that actually allows to still call her a real fan. It's really hard to miss that there's reaper tech in EDI - in particular, when you spent some time hanging around with other ME fans at the forums or on Twitter. Seems a bit like her job is mainly to look cute and keep people busy.

As big as EDI being made with reaper tech is in the story things ARE missable. The whole "I was made with Sovereign hardware" convo is easily missed if you don't talk to EDI much, and the stuff on TIM's space station while not missible gameplay wise is certainly missible through somebody talking or not paying attention.


I'll give her the benifit of the doubt but the sooner we stop asking her story questions the sooner things on here will be much better.

But EDI herself was made from the Alliance VI in Luna Base. Seems reasonable to say she wasn't really made from Reaper tech, just had a few bits in her.

Reaper hardware (the ones with the cyber warfare algorithyms) is reaper tech. the monitor on the Cerberus base even said (this is a rough quote) "I don't think introducing reaper tech to a rogue VI program is such a good idea" EDI was made of reaper tech but the only couple times they mention it are easily missed through not talking to EDI or not paying attention.