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[Sire Styx]

Parabolee77 wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

I have been a long time lurker to this thread but have not posted often (or at all I don't recall), mainly because I read on my phone.

However several people have asked if someone could put together a comprehensive list of all the clues that have been brought to light so far.

I have taken it upon myself to undertake that task. My plan is for it to be an extremely thorough reference source for all elements of both the Indoctrination Theory and it's criticisms. Along with all the clues and related information from comments made by Bioware. It will source all it's information and include many images and links to related materials.

It probably will not be finished today but it is already well underway.

Just wanted to give people a heads up and something to look forward to. I should have the first version complete tomorrow and intend to keep it up to date and revised as need be.

Thanks and Hold the Line

Just a heads up on this for those waiting. It is looking like I will not finish it today due to me obsesily researching every part of it and sourcing as much as I can.

However it is coming along nicely, it's already well over 3000 words long and to be honest is probably not even half done yet.

Even when I finally post it, it will not be complete. I am sure as soon as people read it they will have lot's more for me to add that I have overlooked. Not to mention that massive additions/revisions it will require upon the release of the EC.

I am hoping to make it the definitive source for all Mass Effect 3 ending theories. Especiallly the Indoctrination Theory.

Only 3000 words? I hope you got your readiness rating up, or you'll not get the best ending.

But lol seriously, over 3000 words! That's amazing
It's fantastic that you're doing this.

[Chief Commander]

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

[Dwailing]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

didnt i put that correctly? what i meant was "you guys are still believing in the indoctrination theory like a bunch of fanatics ready to behead everyone who thinks its just a bunch of ballony." thats what i meant with believing hard. sorry, no native speaker.

And he wonders why people think he's a troll.  With a charming personality like that.

Yeah at least a certain other person was polite about his oppostion.  And yes, I know I probably just summoned him.

Don't worry, his name is required for a summoning to happen.

Good to know.  I wasn't quite sure.

Oh, we are required to name GBGriffin to summon him? *trollface*

NOOOOOO!!!  You spoke his name!!!  How could yo...  wait, I actually kind of like talking to the guy.  As you were Arian.

[Rifneno]

Sire Styx wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

I have been a long time lurker to this thread but have not posted often (or at all I don't recall), mainly because I read on my phone.

However several people have asked if someone could put together a comprehensive list of all the clues that have been brought to light so far.

I have taken it upon myself to undertake that task. My plan is for it to be an extremely thorough reference source for all elements of both the Indoctrination Theory and it's criticisms. Along with all the clues and related information from comments made by Bioware. It will source all it's information and include many images and links to related materials.

It probably will not be finished today but it is already well underway.

Just wanted to give people a heads up and something to look forward to. I should have the first version complete tomorrow and intend to keep it up to date and revised as need be.

Thanks and Hold the Line

Just a heads up on this for those waiting. It is looking like I will not finish it today due to me obsesily researching every part of it and sourcing as much as I can.

However it is coming along nicely, it's already well over 3000 words long and to be honest is probably not even half done yet.

Even when I finally post it, it will not be complete. I am sure as soon as people read it they will have lot's more for me to add that I have overlooked. Not to mention that massive additions/revisions it will require upon the release of the EC.

I am hoping to make it the definitive source for all Mass Effect 3 ending theories. Especiallly the Indoctrination Theory.

Only 3000 words? I hope you got your readiness rating up, or you'll not get the best ending.

But lol seriously, over 3000 words! That's amazing
It's fantastic that you're doing this.

Agreed.  That is awesome.  Kudos to you,  Parabolee77.  Here, have a sugar cookie shaped like a krogan.  

[balance5050]

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

The root of why your argument is invalid is because Bioware wanted us to interpret different things from ending, that's why it was left so vague. If you actually take into account that the implications of each ending IS different, we can conclude that there are many interpretations of the same game for each player.

We are simply interpreting the game our own way, and to us it makes the most sense. There is nothing that says that you can't interpret it your way, just don't come into this thread and force us to view it in your way:wizard: :wizard: 

Modifié par balance5050, 12 avril 2012 - 07:14 .

[waldstr18]

Vahilor wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

If you want to I can look for several provoking comments of you and list them.. and that would be pretty much....

if you bring the context with you. id welcome that. but that seem quite a bit of work, i wouldnt want to do it, so i cant really ask you to. yet if you have the time and the ambition, go for it, then youll see for every provking thing i might have said, there is someone calling me or other disbeliefers a troll or stupid or what not. well, i dont like that, so if my comments sound like im looking down on those people, well, thats intended.

nothing has been proven either way. so if anyone stands by the indoctrination theory like its the new found religion, well, i call them fanatic, cause thats what they are. or am i wrong?

[Dwailing]

Sire Styx wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

I have been a long time lurker to this thread but have not posted often (or at all I don't recall), mainly because I read on my phone.

However several people have asked if someone could put together a comprehensive list of all the clues that have been brought to light so far.

I have taken it upon myself to undertake that task. My plan is for it to be an extremely thorough reference source for all elements of both the Indoctrination Theory and it's criticisms. Along with all the clues and related information from comments made by Bioware. It will source all it's information and include many images and links to related materials.

It probably will not be finished today but it is already well underway.

Just wanted to give people a heads up and something to look forward to. I should have the first version complete tomorrow and intend to keep it up to date and revised as need be.

Thanks and Hold the Line

Just a heads up on this for those waiting. It is looking like I will not finish it today due to me obsesily researching every part of it and sourcing as much as I can.

However it is coming along nicely, it's already well over 3000 words long and to be honest is probably not even half done yet.

Even when I finally post it, it will not be complete. I am sure as soon as people read it they will have lot's more for me to add that I have overlooked. Not to mention that massive additions/revisions it will require upon the release of the EC.

I am hoping to make it the definitive source for all Mass Effect 3 ending theories. Especiallly the Indoctrination Theory.

Only 3000 words? I hope you got your readiness rating up, or you'll not get the best ending.

But lol seriously, over 3000 words! That's amazing
It's fantastic that you're doing this.

Yeah, I'm glad someone decided to collect everything.  The front page doesn't have EVERYTHING that we have collected now.  It's good that we will have something that includes the recent evidence.

[waldstr18]

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

"believing hard" is what i chose the write, nothing about lunacy. i just added that once you called me a troll yet again.

Modifié par waldstr18, 12 avril 2012 - 07:14 .

[Ravel1992]

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

Dont fight, lets dance!

www.youtube.com/watch

[Dwailing]

Rifneno wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

I have been a long time lurker to this thread but have not posted often (or at all I don't recall), mainly because I read on my phone.

However several people have asked if someone could put together a comprehensive list of all the clues that have been brought to light so far.

I have taken it upon myself to undertake that task. My plan is for it to be an extremely thorough reference source for all elements of both the Indoctrination Theory and it's criticisms. Along with all the clues and related information from comments made by Bioware. It will source all it's information and include many images and links to related materials.

It probably will not be finished today but it is already well underway.

Just wanted to give people a heads up and something to look forward to. I should have the first version complete tomorrow and intend to keep it up to date and revised as need be.

Thanks and Hold the Line

Just a heads up on this for those waiting. It is looking like I will not finish it today due to me obsesily researching every part of it and sourcing as much as I can.

However it is coming along nicely, it's already well over 3000 words long and to be honest is probably not even half done yet.

Even when I finally post it, it will not be complete. I am sure as soon as people read it they will have lot's more for me to add that I have overlooked. Not to mention that massive additions/revisions it will require upon the release of the EC.

I am hoping to make it the definitive source for all Mass Effect 3 ending theories. Especiallly the Indoctrination Theory.

Only 3000 words? I hope you got your readiness rating up, or you'll not get the best ending.

But lol seriously, over 3000 words! That's amazing
It's fantastic that you're doing this.

Agreed.  That is awesome.  Kudos to you,  Parabolee77.  Here, have a sugar cookie shaped like a krogan.  

No, no, give him Krogan Crunch so he can feel like Kai Leng in Anderson's apartment.  

[Dwailing]

Ravel1992 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

Dont fight, lets dance!

www.youtube.com/watch

WOOT!!!  I'm going to do my version of the Shepard Slide!!!

[Vahilor]

waldstr18 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

If you want to I can look for several provoking comments of you and list them.. and that would be pretty much....

if you bring the context with you. id welcome that. but that seem quite a bit of work, i wouldnt want to do it, so i cant really ask you to. yet if you have the time and the ambition, go for it, then youll see for every provking thing i might have said, there is someone calling me or other disbeliefers a troll or stupid or what not. well, i dont like that, so if my comments sound like im looking down on those people, well, thats intended.

nothing has been proven either way. so if anyone stands by the indoctrination theory like its the new found religion, well, i call them fanatic, cause thats what they are. or am i wrong?

Only cause people disscuse somthing or believe in somthing, they are no fanatics. There is no prove if it is right or wrong.. and if people still have hope.. it is ok.. but blaming them for it, say to them they are idiots, fanatics or whatever is insulting and shows that you have no respect.

Nobody wants you to believe in IDT or to be the same opinion but you shouls respect the opinion of other people and not start to insult them or make fun of them.

[balance5050]

waldstr18 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

"believing hard" is what i chose the write, nothing about lunacy. i just added that once you called me a troll yet again.

You're a troll because you come into a thread and fight it. You would be the equivalent of an atheist walking into a church and calling them all idiots. I'm an atheist btw.

At least religious folk who come to my door are polite about it.

Edit: Like GBGriffin, (for the most part;))

Modifié par balance5050, 12 avril 2012 - 07:19 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Dwailing wrote...

Ravel1992 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

Dont fight, lets dance!

www.youtube.com/watch

WOOT!!!  I'm going to do my version of the Shepard Slide!!!

This guy already perfected it: 

[Dwailing]

Dwailing wrote...

Ravel1992 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

Dont fight, lets dance!

www.youtube.com/watch

WOOT!!!  I'm going to do my version of the Shepard Slide!!!

Also, while we're on the topic of Music.  All rise for the Mass Effect fan national anthem.  

[Rifneno]

waldstr18 wrote...

if you bring the context with you. id welcome that. but that seem quite a bit of work, i wouldnt want to do it, so i cant really ask you to. yet if you have the time and the ambition, go for it, then youll see for every provking thing i might have said, there is someone calling me or other disbeliefers a troll or stupid or what not. well, i dont like that, so if my comments sound like im looking down on those people, well, thats intended.

nothing has been proven either way. so if anyone stands by the indoctrination theory like its the new found religion, well, i call them fanatic, cause thats what they are. or am i wrong?

In other words, you can't handle people strongly disagreeing with you so if they do you'll go to a sanctuary of people with similar beliefs and pick fights with everyone, including those who didn't say those things.

Yeah, you've got a bright future ahead of you here on the Internet. 

[Tirian Thorn]

captainbob8383 wrote...

Sometime ago someone posted a link to an old topic (like 7-8 months old) where a Bioware employee was talking about indoctrination and was basically saying poeple should bookmark this topic to not feel dumb when ME3 would come out.
Maybe it was a coincidence, maybe he was joking, but still, If somebody knows which topic I'm talking about and still has the link, if you'd be kind enough to post it, I just cant find it.

That would be an interesting link. 

[Dwailing]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ravel1992 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

Dont fight, lets dance!

www.youtube.com/watch

WOOT!!!  I'm going to do my version of the Shepard Slide!!!

This guy already perfected it: 

Wow, that is... a little disturbing, actually.  It's funny, but kind of disturbing.  To quote Harbinger, "This hurts you."

[Chief Commander]

waldstr18 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

"believing hard" is what i chose the write, nothing about lunacy. i just added that once you called me a troll yet again.

Please learn to read peoples posts PROPERLY! I wrote "something along the lines of". And yes I will call you a troll gladly again, because that is what you are. Do not fight it! Embrace it. The first step towards change is awareness.

[Tirian Thorn]

waldstr18 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

If you want to I can look for several provoking comments of you and list them.. and that would be pretty much....

if you bring the context with you. id welcome that. but that seem quite a bit of work, i wouldnt want to do it, so i cant really ask you to. yet if you have the time and the ambition, go for it, then youll see for every provking thing i might have said, there is someone calling me or other disbeliefers a troll or stupid or what not. well, i dont like that, so if my comments sound like im looking down on those people, well, thats intended.

nothing has been proven either way. so if anyone stands by the indoctrination theory like its the new found religion, well, i call them fanatic, cause thats what they are. or am i wrong?

Fanatic has negative connotations, even through the truncated version "fan" is something to be proud of. 

Most of us are IDT believers, but we're not zealots or nut-jobs. 

[Iconoclaste]

Lord Kable wrote...

Nobody else notices the child but Shepard. Even when he gets on the transporter to escape before he gets blown up, he climbs in himself, nobody gives him a Jeremy Beadle.

As Shepard moves at the end and is in a pile of rubble....that tells you something else is up. If you look all around you and see the space, where are the pile of rocks he ends up buried in? The armour looks more burnt....and after getting hit by a reaper beam, that's also far more likely.

Indoctrination theory for sure

I "revisited " the scene where the child climbs on the transport at the beginning. At this very moment, a big Reaper is rising before them all, they can be looking at that instead of paying attention to the kid. The kid himself is not looking at the Reaper, but at Shepard. I think it's reasonable to suppose this intense stare was made to imprint Shepard's mind with what the kid told him a few moments before (There is nothing you can do for me), so after his death Shepard will start having those "dreams" including the child. It is also reasonable to suppose that, to some amount, those "dreams" were partly "directed" by indoctrination in its "effective" beginning phase.

When we see Shepard with Anderson, his armor is in bad shape, and the same in the "breathing" sequence. The rubble he is lying under might be from the red tube's holding structure that's been projected around (with Shepard) all the way to some other part of the Citadel. He was standing on a flat space when he "destroyed" the tube, and the 1st blast just "pushed" everything on the platform radially, without "burning", sending Shep and rubble towards a place at safe distance from the 2nd blast.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 avril 2012 - 07:26 .

[Dwailing]

balance5050 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

"believing hard" is what i chose the write, nothing about lunacy. i just added that once you called me a troll yet again.

You're a troll because you come into a thread and fight it. You would be the equivalent of an atheist walking into a church and calling them all idiots. I'm an atheist btw.

At least religious folk who come to my door are polite about it.

Edit: Like GBGriffin, (for the most part;))

I have to GBGriffin credit, he was being very polite two nights ago.  BTW, where are you GB?  We're saying your name trying to summon you.

[Ravel1992]

Dwailing wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Ravel1992 wrote...

Chief Commander wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

bull****. im not the aggressor here. page 780 something i came in. read for your own self.

You come in and say something along the line of "Still holding on to that lunatic theory of yours?" That my dear is being provoking. So YES you are the aggressor. If you don´t want to be considered a troll just STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD! Or is your life dedicated to convincing us of our "foolish believes"? Go outside. The sun...it is shining.

Dont fight, lets dance!

www.youtube.com/watch

WOOT!!!  I'm going to do my version of the Shepard Slide!!!

Also, while we're on the topic of Music.  All rise for the Mass Effect fan national anthem.  

So, maybe some rap?
www.youtube.com/watch

[lex0r11]

I hope this attack wave will not get any stronger today, my newest creation will upset probably more people than it should.

[Dwailing]

lex0r11 wrote...

I hope this attack wave will not get any stronger today, my newest creation will upset probably more people than it should.

Oh you know we'll love what ever you post.  Well, MOST of us will.  I can't speak for waldstr18.