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[IronSabbath88]

Only on the BSN do you see people angry over a free DLC.

[demersel]

Something just accured to me:
Glyph - the shadow broker's assistant VI - it is the same colour that the catalyst VI is. This is the only other time a tech is using white colour as the representation.
In the Shadow Broker DLC glyph states, that he can assume any form suitable for the use of the shadow broker.
There is clearly the same tech (shifting panels) used in the area of the citadel right before you meet the catalyst.
In the beginning of ME3 Liara states, that it was glyph that help to find evidence of the prothean weapon, crucible, by sotring through the data. With out it, she says, she would never have found it.
Protheans poured all of their resources trying to build it, but something went wrong, and they we evidently unable to finish it (or were they?)
In ME1 Barla Von, the volus trader on cidatel tells you his take on the shadow broker - that shadow broker has been around for ages, and all his actions alll in all resulted in keeping things at a delicate balance somehow - so the shodow broker with all his action always made sure that things stay the way the are, so no one will gain the upper hand or any kind of advantage - in other words keeping thins at a certain level. And that all he has ever done is consisted with a single personality.
In Shadow Broker DLC, we learn that the shodow broker is some random dude, that killed the former Shadow Broker, who most likely also was some random dude. Then we kill him and Liara is the new shodow broker.

and the only commom element is the old ship of mysterios origin and design, and a VI data assistant, that is left there to discover and use by anyone who finds it.

Kndy like the citadel and the mass relay network left behind for anyone do discover to keep galactic civilization on the desired path and at the desired level, don't you think?

And we spend th whole game in a ship with that thing! (and during that time we're having visions and confusing dreams). And we spend the whole game collecting resources of the galaxy to puor it into buidling a device of unknown origin and function, the schematics for which were conviniently found by this thing right at the moment of crysis.... This feels like a set up. and a diversion.

Modifié par demersel, 13 avril 2012 - 01:14 .

[Rifneno]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Very very unlikely. Cerberus wants Omega because of it's proximity to the Omega-4 relay so they can go in and loot the collector base.

Except Cerberus already had a deal in place with Aria to let them transport whatever they wanted out of there. As of now, Cerberus' motives for invading Omega and Omega's origins are both unknown. It's a reasonable theory. Few reasonable theories actually turn out true, but I don't see any obvious flaws in it.

As for the Sanctuary debate, I'm not sure the Reapers did attack it because of the experiments. I mean, they're Reapers. They probably just figured they should go reap those refugees. It's not like the place was a secret. The Reaper presence was pretty much just converted organics. If they seriously viewed the place as a threat, capital ships would have annihilated it. There would be nothing left.

[Big Bad]

Hey Y'all, I know this is horribly, horribly cruel, but I just found this on the Mass Effect twitter, and I can't not post it.  My apologies.

. . .Ok it turns out that I don't know how to post pics, so here is the link.  You really,  really shouldn't click it, but you have to do so anyway.  Again, my apologies. 

http://melicamp.devi...-Baby-295713697

[Sire Styx]

demersel wrote...

Something just accured to me:
Glyph - the shadow broker's assistant VI - it is the same colour that the catalyst VI is. This is the only other time a tech is using white colour as the representation.
In the Shadow Broker DLC glyph states, that he can assume any form suitable for the use of the shadow broker.
There is clearly the same tech (shifting panels) used in the area of the citadel right before you meet the catalyst.
In the beginning of ME3 Liara states, that it was glyph that help to find evidence of the prothean weapon, crucible, by sotring through the data. With out it, she says, she would never have found it.
Protheans poured all of their resources trying to build it, but something went wrong, and they we evidently unable to finish it (or were they?)
In ME1 Barla Von, the volus trader on cidatel tells you his take on the shadow broker - that shadow broker has been around for ages, and all his actions alll in all resulted in keeping things at a delicate balance somehow - so the shodow broker with all his action always made sure that things stay the way the are, so no one will gain the upper hand or any kind of advantage - in other words keeping thins at a certain level. And that all he has ever done is consisted with a single personality.
In Shadow Broker DLC, we learn that the shodow broker is some random dude, that killed the former Shadow Broker, who most likely also was some random dude. Then we kill him and Liara is the new shodow broker.

and the only commom element is the old ship of mysterios origin and design, and a VI data assistant, that is left there to discover and use by anyone who finds it.

Kndy like the citadel and the mass relay network left behind for anyone do discover to keep galactic civilization on the desired path and at the desired level, don't you think?

And we spend th whole game in a ship with that thing! (and during that time we're having visions and confusing dreams). And we spend the whole game collecting resources of the galaxy to puor it into buidling a device of unknown origin and function, the schematics for which were conviniently found by this thing right at the moment of crysis.... This feels like a set up. and a diversion.

That's really interesting. Did the dreams start before or after we got Liara?

[Rifneno]

Big Bad wrote...

Hey Y'all, I know this is horribly, horribly cruel, but I just found this on the Mass Effect twitter, and I can't not post it.  My apologies.

. . .Ok it turns out that I don't know how to post pics, so here is the link.  You really,  really shouldn't click it, but you have to do so anyway.  Again, my apologies. 

http://melicamp.devi...-Baby-295713697

<Bioware>
No.  Sorry, no little blue babies.
...  But you may have little half-quarian babies.  Just give us 10 minutes.  5 for photoshop, and 5 to google "royalty free baby pictures."
</Bioware>

[demersel]

Sire Styx wrote...


That's really interesting. Did the dreams start before or after we got Liara?

After i think. Couse the dream is after Ash is injured, so you have liara. 

[Golferguy758]

I'll do the phoenix wright debate of that ending soonish. Going to eat and play some phoenix wright first

[llbountyhunter]

 you know how the ending was supposed to indoctrinate the player as well as Shepard? Bioware probably meant to be an experience to see exactly how an indoctrinated person would perceive things.
.
.
seem to me the under-estimated the power of there real-world indoctrination.


we see all the common side effects of indoc in all the IT disbelievers..
denial- it cant be true!blame; directed towards bioware
I not weak enough to get Indoctrinated!rage; can be obviously seen (some of the weaker minded people filed itc claims against bioware)
night terrors. 

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 13 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[Rifneno]

demersel wrote...

Something just accured to me:
Glyph - the shadow broker's assistant VI - it is the same colour that the catalyst VI is. This is the only other time a tech is using white colour as the representation.
In the Shadow Broker DLC glyph states, that he can assume any form suitable for the use of the shadow broker.
There is clearly the same tech (shifting panels) used in the area of the citadel right before you meet the catalyst.
In the beginning of ME3 Liara states, that it was glyph that help to find evidence of the prothean weapon, crucible, by sotring through the data. With out it, she says, she would never have found it.
Protheans poured all of their resources trying to build it, but something went wrong, and they we evidently unable to finish it (or were they?)
In ME1 Barla Von, the volus trader on cidatel tells you his take on the shadow broker - that shadow broker has been around for ages, and all his actions alll in all resulted in keeping things at a delicate balance somehow - so the shodow broker with all his action always made sure that things stay the way the are, so no one will gain the upper hand or any kind of advantage - in other words keeping thins at a certain level. And that all he has ever done is consisted with a single personality.
In Shadow Broker DLC, we learn that the shodow broker is some random dude, that killed the former Shadow Broker, who most likely also was some random dude. Then we kill him and Liara is the new shodow broker.

and the only commom element is the old ship of mysterios origin and design, and a VI data assistant, that is left there to discover and use by anyone who finds it.

Kndy like the citadel and the mass relay network left behind for anyone do discover to keep galactic civilization on the desired path and at the desired level, don't you think?

And we spend th whole game in a ship with that thing! (and during that time we're having visions and confusing dreams). And we spend the whole game collecting resources of the galaxy to puor it into buidling a device of unknown origin and function, the schematics for which were conviniently found by this thing right at the moment of crysis.... This feels like a set up. and a diversion.

Hmm.  An interesting idea.  And now that I think about it, what purpose has Liara being the Shadow Broker really served?  I can see why Arrival happens whether or not Shepard does it because it'd be game over before the game started.  But why have Liara become the new Shadow Broker?  It hasn't served any real purpose.

[demersel]

llbountyhunter wrote...

 you know how the ending was supposed to indoctrinate the player as well as Shepard? Bioware probably meant to be an experience to see exactly how an indoctrinated person would perceive things.
seem to me the under-estimated the power of there real-world indoctrination.


we see all the common side effects of indoc in all the IT disbelievers..
denial- it cant be true!blame; directed towards bioware
I not weak enough to get Indoctrinated!rage; can be obviously seen (some of the weaker minded people filed itc claims against bioware)
night terrors. 

Actually that was exactly the thought I had after first finishing ME3 - that they tried do make an expieriance of the indoctrination process. Actually one of the first interviews with Casey Hudson, in early stages of ME3 development (last spring, right at the time the arrival came out) stated that the indoctrination would be the major theme in the third game, and the process of indoctrination would get the story focus. And then after few months, around the E3 time they started the Take Earth Back compaign, and the promotional focus shifted from story, to accessebility for new players, and improved combat. Can't find the link though, so cannot back it up at the moment, 

Modifié par demersel, 13 avril 2012 - 01:31 .

[majinbuu1307]

Nice thread, Direct yourself to my counter thread:)

[Arian Dynas]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Nauks wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

Ah, I tried comparing Omega, the collector ship, the Citadel and the Crucible together, but I couldn't find many good pics.
I've heard theories about omega being a catalyst or somethign else being something else and I thought I'd have a look.
There doesn't seem to be many visual similarities between them, not to mention the size difference.
Oh well.
It would have been interesting if the collector ship was a small citadel or crucible or somethign, or if omega was an old crucible or somethin but nevermind.

Here's the images anyway, incase anyone else wants to look:
img99.imageshack.us/img99/5122/allme.png

Calling it, Omega was the super-weapon that scarred Klendagon! (although judging by the quality of analysis around here though this is probably old news)
So it's techincally defunct as TIM claims in ME2
And Cerberus are all honry for Omega when they invade and kick Aria out, ehh? ehh?  ehh..?

Very very unlikely. Cerberus wants Omega because of it's proximity to the Omega-4 relay so they can go in and loot the collector base.

Still don't see why this theory gets people looking at it. We know the origins of Omega quite well, it's in Omega's description. It was an Eezo rich asteroid the Protheans couldn't crack, it was split open by another asteroid, showing off the core, a mining colony was established by one spacefaring species or another (Asari I think) whom abandoned it, then more were added after the boom, it's been alternatively abandoned and reactivated again several times through the centuries. 

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 13 avril 2012 - 01:38 .

[n00bsauce2010]

I've been off this thread for close to a week now. Have any new tweets, news, or statements surfaced since pax east?

[Arian Dynas]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

I've been off this thread for close to a week now. Have any new tweets, news, or statements surfaced since pax east?

Yup.

[Rifneno]

I tried using 4 year old logic with Harbie. If I can't see him, he can't see me! So I backwards walked toward the beam. At the last second it auto-swirved so I could face Harbie for the beam.

[n00bsauce2010]

Arian Dynas wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

I've been off this thread for close to a week now. Have any new tweets, news, or statements surfaced since pax east?

Yup.

What in particular?

[Sire Styx]

I've gave up in that other topic
And I've got loads of work to do tomorrow, which I've been neglecting.
So I'm off, probably for a while.
So good luck with the theories and that

[Golferguy758]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

I've been off this thread for close to a week now. Have any new tweets, news, or statements surfaced since pax east?

Tons! let me start with -

[n00bsauce2010]

Golferguy758 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

I've been off this thread for close to a week now. Have any new tweets, news, or statements surfaced since pax east?

Tons! let me start with -

Wtf is going on in this thread? did you guys start smoking meth in the last week?

[Nauks]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Still don't see why this theory gets people looking at it. We know the origins of Omega quite well, it's in Omega's description. It was an Eezo rich asteroid the Protheans couldn't crack, it was split open by another asteroid, showing off the core, a mining colony was established by one spacefaring species or another (Asari I think) whom abandoned it, then more were added after the boom, it's been alternatively abandoned and reactivated again several times through the centuries. 

Party pooper.

[Golferguy758]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

I've been off this thread for close to a week now. Have any new tweets, news, or statements surfaced since pax east?

Tons! let me start with -

Wtf is going on in this thread? did you guys start smoking meth in the last week?

I'm usign Phoenix Wright to enunciate my points because why not.

On a serious note. About the only thing interesting was a tweet by Jessica that said something not related to ME3:EC is goign to make a lot of people excited.

Mostly it's still the same cycle. discuss random thing, Troll comes in says everyone wrong because dummy heads, flame war, cycle is reset.

[Arian Dynas]

Nauks wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Still don't see why this theory gets people looking at it. We know the origins of Omega quite well, it's in Omega's description. It was an Eezo rich asteroid the Protheans couldn't crack, it was split open by another asteroid, showing off the core, a mining colony was established by one spacefaring species or another (Asari I think) whom abandoned it, then more were added after the boom, it's been alternatively abandoned and reactivated again several times through the centuries. 

Party pooper.

Hey, I just point out flaws. I love IDT, it's given me hope again for a fantastic Bioware, and I genuinely share thebeleif, but the fact is I've decided to make it my job to make us unassailable, so I pick out the flaws, remove them and make the iron hard bar of proof we need. Don't call me a hero. Call me... a nitpicker.

[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Still don't see why this theory gets people looking at it. We know the origins of Omega quite well, it's in Omega's description. It was an Eezo rich asteroid the Protheans couldn't crack, it was split open by another asteroid, showing off the core, a mining colony was established by one spacefaring species or another (Asari I think) whom abandoned it, then more were added after the boom, it's been alternatively abandoned and reactivated again several times through the centuries. 

Uhh yeah.  It might interest you to know that Retribution heavily implied that Omega was a Reaper creation.

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Still don't see why this theory gets people looking at it. We know the origins of Omega quite well, it's in Omega's description. It was an Eezo rich asteroid the Protheans couldn't crack, it was split open by another asteroid, showing off the core, a mining colony was established by one spacefaring species or another (Asari I think) whom abandoned it, then more were added after the boom, it's been alternatively abandoned and reactivated again several times through the centuries. 

Uhh yeah.  It might interest you to know that Retribution heavily implied that Omega was a Reaper creation.

Don't see how with a timeline where we know the date of it's construction could work with that. but, to be fair, I have't read Retribution.