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[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Don't see how with a timeline where we know the date of it's construction could work with that. but, to be fair, I have't read Retribution.

The same one that told us the Protheans built the Citadel?

Edit: I suck at typing.

Modifié par Rifneno, 13 avril 2012 - 02:09 .

[Gilgamesh117]

Just read the Omega Codex. It was the Protheans who mined it briefly because it's shell was too thick. That kinda makes no sense. They have the technology to make suns supernova, but they can't even spilt open an asteroid? Anyone else find this odd?

[KneeTheCap]

One thing bothers me quite a bit concerning people who claim this was a rush-job or Bio was just lazy. Okay, let's roll with that assumption. If they were lazy or ran out of time, would it not show in other places too? Not just and only in the ending? I'm pretty sure a game is not built/made in chronological order...

I mean, did anyone at all see any evidence of laziness or rush-job prior the ending?

Just a thought that has been pestering me lately..

(and pardon my english, it's really late here...)

Modifié par KneeTheCap, 13 avril 2012 - 02:08 .

[Nauks]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Don't see how with a timeline where we know the date of it's construction could work with that. but, to be fair, I have't read Retribution.

The same one that told us the Protheans beat the Citadel?

It's true the codex is a lying, unfaithful **** sometimes. (though I applaude you Arian for being a truth teller!)

But really? I read the book but was probably too dense to pick up on that Omega as Reaper tech part, got a paraphrase per chance? 
EDIT: Found this: http://social.biowar...index/7607387/1

Modifié par Nauks, 13 avril 2012 - 02:20 .

[Rifneno]

Nauks wrote...
It's true the codex is a lying, unfaithful **** sometimes. (though I applaude you Arian for being a truth teller!)

But really? I read the book but was probably too dense to pick up on that Omega as Reaper tech part, got a paraphrase per chance? 
EDIT: Found this: http://social.biowar...index/7607387/1

Good, because my memory isn't good enough for more than "Omega = Reapers".  

[Nauks]

Rifneno wrote...

Nauks wrote...
It's true the codex is a lying, unfaithful **** sometimes. (though I applaude you Arian for being a truth teller!)

But really? I read the book but was probably too dense to pick up on that Omega as Reaper tech part, got a paraphrase per chance? 
EDIT: Found this: http://social.biowar...index/7607387/1

Good, because my memory isn't good enough for more than "Omega = Reapers".  

I forget how good the real books were, have had to purge my brain of the recently aborted mess that passed as an ME book.
Those Grayson quotes, when he's in full Reaper mode are spine-tinglingly cool.

[Big Bad]

KneeTheCap wrote...

One thing bothers me quite a bit concerning people who claim this was a rush-job or Bio was just lazy. Okay, let's roll with that assumption. If they were lazy or ran out of time, would it not show in other places too? Not just and only in the ending? I'm pretty sure a game is not built/made in chronological order...

I mean, did anyone at all see any evidence of laziness or rush-job prior the ending?

Just a thought that has been pestering me lately..

(and pardon my english, it's really late here...)

I have had similar thoughts as well.  Everything about the ending is just so radically different from the rest of the game.  I have a hard time believing that it was all accidental.

I dunno.  I just want an ending that doesn't make me want to slit my wrists (not that I'm going to!) at the futility of it all.  I'll be happy if they can give us something decent, regardless of whether or not it's IT.
  Also, you're english sounds fine to this native english speaker.

[Nauks]

Ok so how about this then:

Supposing of course that I.T. is true, Shepard wakes up back in London and the Reapers are still going at it in full force, and oh noes the Crucible isn't working, or possibly just hasn't reached the Citadel yet.
Shepard somehow learns (possibly through TIM, from where ever he is/was when not in the Citadel sequence) that Omega is involved, the key to their missing puzzle.

Off we go to Omega, en route we rendezvous with Aria who conveniently escaped the Citadel before it moved, becomes our temporary party member as we battle through Omega (fighting Cerberus who are now 100% under Reaper control) and  hook up the Crucible/find Omegas' secret control room or w/e, inc superweapon vs Reapers.

EDIT: Oh and Harbinger learns of this and follows Shepard to Omgea, assumes control of Cerberus troops throughout the mission, all the while talking his usual smack, and we get an epic fight with him at the end naturally.

Just spitballing here, but thought of this when I was brushing my teeth and had to jot it down.

Modifié par Nauks, 13 avril 2012 - 02:53 .

[Big Bad]

Nauks wrote...

Ok so how about this then:

Supposing of course that I.T. is true, Shepard wakes up back in London and the Reapers are still going at it in full force, and oh noes the Crucible isn't working, or possibly just hasn't reached the Citadel yet.
Shepard somehow learns (possibly through TIM, from where ever he is/was when not in the Citadel sequence) that Omega is involved, the key to their missing puzzle.

Off we go to Omega, en route we rendezvous with Aria who conveniently escaped the Citadel before it moved, becomes our temporary party member as we battle through Omega (fighting Cerberus who are now 100% under Reaper control) and  hook up the Crucible/find Omegas' secret control room or w/e, inc superweapon vs Reapers.

EDIT: Oh and Harbinger learns of this and follows Shepard to Omgea, assumes control of Cerberus troops throughout the mission, all the while talking his usual smack, and we get an epic fight with him at the end naturally.

Just spitballing here, but thought of this when I was brushing my teeth and had to jot it down.

That sounds pretty awesome - especially the Harbinger fight (god, I want the chance to kill that smug bastard!).  However, I would much prefer the game end on Earth rather than Omega.

[Arian Dynas]

Nauks wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Nauks wrote...
It's true the codex is a lying, unfaithful **** sometimes. (though I applaude you Arian for being a truth teller!)

But really? I read the book but was probably too dense to pick up on that Omega as Reaper tech part, got a paraphrase per chance? 
EDIT: Found this: http://social.biowar...index/7607387/1

Good, because my memory isn't good enough for more than "Omega = Reapers".  

I forget how good the real books were, have had to purge my brain of the recently aborted mess that passed as an ME book.
Those Grayson quotes, when he's in full Reaper mode are spine-tinglingly cool.

I've got it.

Omega is NOT a Crucible, but it IS a Reaper creation.

Remember were I mentioned that it was a contemporary of the Protheans? Remember who else is? Who also happens to have a relay suffixed with -4? Omega was abandoned a number of times in it's history, who's to say that the Collectors didn't take advantage of an existing superstructure under Reaper orders? Morever, it's the OMEGA -4 Relay. Rather interesting contrast to the ALPHA relay. Omega, being the end, gives me the indication that the Omega relays are likely the youngest in the network.


Basically, Omega has SOME significance to me, not necessarily a Reaper construct, and looking at the text, nothing EXPLICITLY stating it as such, but the possibility is there, the name is far too ominous and it's convineint locale right next to the Omega -4 relay is too prefect to be entirely insignificant

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 13 avril 2012 - 03:06 .

[Golferguy758]

Nauks wrote...

Ok so how about this then:

Supposing of course that I.T. is true, Shepard wakes up back in London and the Reapers are still going at it in full force, and oh noes the Crucible isn't working, or possibly just hasn't reached the Citadel yet.
Shepard somehow learns (possibly through TIM, from where ever he is/was when not in the Citadel sequence) that Omega is involved, the key to their missing puzzle.

Off we go to Omega, en route we rendezvous with Aria who conveniently escaped the Citadel before it moved, becomes our temporary party member as we battle through Omega (fighting Cerberus who are now 100% under Reaper control) and  hook up the Crucible/find Omegas' secret control room or w/e, inc superweapon vs Reapers.

EDIT: Oh and Harbinger learns of this and follows Shepard to Omgea, assumes control of Cerberus troops throughout the mission, all the while talking his usual smack, and we get an epic fight with him at the end naturally.

Just spitballing here, but thought of this when I was brushing my teeth and had to jot it down.

Just for conspiracy's sake it could totally tie to the retake Omega DLC. Since technically we'd be retaking Omega at that point.

[llbountyhunter]

Big Bad wrote...

Nauks wrote...

Ok so how about this then:

Supposing of course that I.T. is true, Shepard wakes up back in London and the Reapers are still going at it in full force, and oh noes the Crucible isn't working, or possibly just hasn't reached the Citadel yet.
Shepard somehow learns (possibly through TIM, from where ever he is/was when not in the Citadel sequence) that Omega is involved, the key to their missing puzzle.

Off we go to Omega, en route we rendezvous with Aria who conveniently escaped the Citadel before it moved, becomes our temporary party member as we battle through Omega (fighting Cerberus who are now 100% under Reaper control) and  hook up the Crucible/find Omegas' secret control room or w/e, inc superweapon vs Reapers.

EDIT: Oh and Harbinger learns of this and follows Shepard to Omgea, assumes control of Cerberus troops throughout the mission, all the while talking his usual smack, and we get an epic fight with him at the end naturally.

Just spitballing here, but thought of this when I was brushing my teeth and had to jot it down.

That sounds pretty awesome - especially the Harbinger fight (god, I want the chance to kill that smug bastard!).  However, I would much prefer the game end on Earth rather than Omega.

i dunno...i always imagined the ID part to be kinda like the final boss battle agaisnt harbinger.....  (ive said this before)
 
you know like a mental conflict.... if you pick destroy you overcome harbinger and maybe he gets destroyed in the real world.....

[lex0r11]

Big Bad wrote...

[...]

That sounds pretty awesome - especially the Harbinger fight (god, I want the chance to kill that smug bastard!).  However, I would much prefer the game end on Earth rather than Omega.

So we can all look like this?

[Golferguy758]

lex0r11 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

[...]

That sounds pretty awesome - especially the Harbinger fight (god, I want the chance to kill that smug bastard!).  However, I would much prefer the game end on Earth rather than Omega.

So we can all look like this?

On an unrelated note. Now that Lex is here I can force him to-- I mean, ask him to kindly donate, all the amusing pictures to the thread while I get some sleep.

Picture related

[lex0r11]

I'm afraid that will have to wait till later, gotta go out soon too.

So you will have to wait on the awesome stuff.
*ultra smug*

[Big Bad]

lex0r11 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

[...]

That sounds pretty awesome - especially the Harbinger fight (god, I want the chance to kill that smug bastard!).  However, I would much prefer the game end on Earth rather than Omega.

So we can all look like this?

That is both hilarious and deeply disturbing at the same time!  Well done, sir!

[Rifneno]

lex0r11 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

[...]

That sounds pretty awesome - especially the Harbinger fight (god, I want the chance to kill that smug bastard!).  However, I would much prefer the game end on Earth rather than Omega.

So we can all look like this?

...  I believe your Shepard is indoctrinated, sir.  

[Rifneno]

Hmm. So Cerberus usurped Omega, for unknown reasons. The only other place they've tried usurp is... the Citadel. Again, for unknown reasons. There must be something in common. Omega has even long been referred to as the Terminus' systems counterpart to the Citadel. What's the connection... I just can't see it. If Omega was an alternate catalyst, they wouldn't need the Citadel. If Omega was an alternate or ancient unfinished crucible, then why did the Reapers make it? Unless the crucible is a Reaper trap, which I do believe it is, but from a writer's standpoint it makes no sense for this vague Omega/Citadel background plot to even exist if the whole thing leads to a dead end.

... My brain hurts.

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Hmm. So Cerberus usurped Omega, for unknown reasons. The only other place they've tried usurp is... the Citadel. Again, for unknown reasons. There must be something in common. Omega has even long been referred to as the Terminus' systems counterpart to the Citadel. What's the connection... I just can't see it. If Omega was an alternate catalyst, they wouldn't need the Citadel. If Omega was an alternate or ancient unfinished crucible, then why did the Reapers make it? Unless the crucible is a Reaper trap, which I do believe it is, but from a writer's standpoint it makes no sense for this vague Omega/Citadel background plot to even exist if the whole thing leads to a dead end.

... My brain hurts.

We could be seeing a connection where none exists.

I can't deny, Omega IS significant somehow, but perhaps it has no connection to the citadel whatsoever, beyond the namesake.

[Rifneno]

Arian Dynas wrote...

We could be seeing a connection where none exists.

I can't deny, Omega IS significant somehow, but perhaps it has no connection to the citadel whatsoever, beyond the namesake.

And the fact that Cerberus tried to usurp them both for no apparent reason.

[Big Bad]

Yeah, did we ever learn why specifically Cerberus tried to take the Citadel?

[Asharad Hett]

Big Bad wrote...

Yeah, did we ever learn why specifically Cerberus tried to take the Citadel?

  Because StarKid is utterly useless, and must have lackeys do his dirty work?

[Rifneno]

Big Bad wrote...

Yeah, did we ever learn why specifically Cerberus tried to take the Citadel?

Nope.  Not even a clue.  The only argument people have said for Omega is that they wanted free usage of the Omega-4 relay.  But that doesn't hold water IMO because they already had a deal in place with Aria.  It cost them some money, but I seriously doubt they hijacked Omega to save a few bucks.

[Veloric Wu]

Allan, you kept replying and throwing empty smiles but so far you've revealed little to nothing

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

We could be seeing a connection where none exists.

I can't deny, Omega IS significant somehow, but perhaps it has no connection to the citadel whatsoever, beyond the namesake.

And the fact that Cerberus tried to usurp them both for no apparent reason.

The Citadel was simple, they wanted to ensure Udina's coup would be succuessful, then they could use him as a pupped ruler and gain the collective military powers of the council races. Wouldn't have worked in the long run though, Cerberus understimated Udina's craven nature, as well as the stubbornness of the councilors.