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#36101
RADIUMEYEZ

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But why don't they just either confirm or deny it? What do they have to lose?

On a side note, I'm having humongous trouble with my 3rd playthrough, it's like an emotional rollercoaster O.o

Knee's timeline of...things:

1st playthrough: "omg this game is awesome, I'm hyped as heck"
Ending comes: "umm...?"

- Finds indoc theory, has an epiphany

2nd playthrough: "Omg this game is awesome, I can't believe I missed all these little clues"
Ending comes: "ha! You can't fool me, kid", feels like a winner

- PAX and Bioware's DLC announcement. Serious doubts creep into the mind

3rd playthough: "Omg this game is awesome...but what if the theory is wrong..no, it has to be correct!..but what if it's not"
Ending is most likely not coming..

Geez...


That's funny I had the exact same thing in my playthroughs

#36102
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NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


Oh, my God... 

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#36103
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Hacedor1566 wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


Oh, my God... 

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Careful Lex0r11, you might have some competition now. :)

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Here's another 'speculative' tweet from Mike Gamble from NOW-11h:

"BSN is getting bigger! Stay Tuned in the next few days for more info..."


Yeah, it's getting bigger because everyone is posting just how unbelievably bad is the ending. Good job.

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darkiddd wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Here's another 'speculative' tweet from Mike Gamble from NOW-11h:

"BSN is getting bigger! Stay Tuned in the next few days for more info..."


Yeah, it's getting bigger because everyone is posting just how unbelievably bad is the ending. Good job.


GAMBLE!  JUST TELL US WHAT THE ENDINGS ARE ALREADY!!!!!

#36106
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Dwailing wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

[...]

From now on, when ever anyone enters the thread and asks, 'is there anything new?' I'm going to respond by saying, " No, Lex0r11 still ROCKS."


Good plan.  BTW, Lex0r11, what was that thing you were talking about last night that you thought might turn people against you?  I missed it.  Would you kindly repost it if you think it is appropriate?


Sorry, still haven't posted that picture, it's all quite now. :mellow:
And it was not really that people would turn on me, that picture is more of a emotion bomb.



Dwailing wrote...

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Careful Lex0r11, you might have some competition now. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]


Don't worry, the more the merrier. I motivated someone else to motivate too the other day.
Makes me so proud. *manly tears*

Modifié par lex0r11, 13 avril 2012 - 04:10 .


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Dwailing wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


OH CRAP! *hides under rug*


I'm safe.  I still have faith in her and have never said a bad word about her.  Because, as you ALL know, I love her.  And that's what a person in love does. ;)



its a love/hate relationship.... but mostly love.:)

#36108
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Dwailing wrote...

darkiddd wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Here's another 'speculative' tweet from Mike Gamble from NOW-11h:

"BSN is getting bigger! Stay Tuned in the next few days for more info..."


Yeah, it's getting bigger because everyone is posting just how unbelievably bad is the ending. Good job.


GAMBLE!  JUST TELL US WHAT THE ENDINGS ARE ALREADY!!!!!


My thoughts as well lol

#36109
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darkiddd wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Here's another 'speculative' tweet from Mike Gamble from NOW-11h:

"BSN is getting bigger! Stay Tuned in the next few days for more info..."


Yeah, it's getting bigger because everyone is posting just how unbelievably bad is the ending. Good job.

Bioware, the unfazed optimists, in their shining teflon armor.
Either that or they really truly do feed on our tears of frustration.

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I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


See, I thought the exact same way two weeks ago. But with every passing day the radio silence from Bioware is making this supposed PR-stunt more and more unlikely. I mean, have you seen EAs stocks? From March 27 to April 11 it's just horrible.

IMHO if they revealed it at most 1 month after release it would've prob. ended up in fan response like "oh Bioware, you silly goose!". But now, after the cold EC announcement, after PAX, after a complete vacuum of reactions from Bioware, the likelyhood of this being a calculated stund is becoming just as f*ckload-crazy as Bioware's behaviour itself.

What I'm saying is, right now, its not clear anymore what it could be? Everything about this situation has crossed the realm of realism.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 13 avril 2012 - 04:50 .


#36112
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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


I really really hope you are right

#36113
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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


oh, you know the argument.... theres quite a list

bioware is lazy.
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
oh yeah and.. 
bioware is lazy. 

#36114
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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


Another point I keep bringing up, but that needs to be mentioned:

Bioware knew the ending would generate speculation, discussion and that it would be polarizing.  They knew it from day one and get this - they wanted it.  ME3 has gotten more attention than any other game.  Maybe they don't like some of the hate mail they're getting, but press is good.  People who normally wouldn't check out ME3 probably did just to see what the fuss was. 

I think it is possible that they had ending DLC planned from day one, but that they weren't set of all the specifics.  Due to backlash they decided to move things forward at a quicker pace than planned. 

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llbountyhunter wrote...

oh, you know the argument.... theres quite a list

bioware is lazy.
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
oh yeah and.. 
bioware is lazy. 


Lazyness is not an attribute of multi-million dollar companies.

COMPANIES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


See, I thought the exact same way two weeks ago. But with every passing day the radio silence from Bioware is making this supposed PR-stunt more and more unlikely. I mean, have you seen EAs stocks? From March 27 to April 11 it's just horrible.

IMHO if they revealed it at most 1 month after release it would've prob. ended up in fan response like "oh Bioware, you silly goose!". But now, after the cold EC announcement, after PAX, after a complete vacuum of reactions from Bioware, the likelyhood of this being a calculated stund is becoming just as f*ckload-crazy as Bioware's behaviour itself.

What I'm saying is, right now, its not clear anymore what it could be? Everything about this situation has crossed the realm of realism.



there stocks may be down, but they still have very strong sales, and the payoff will probably the even greater if it works... we have already discussed that bioware could be using a "high-risk/high-reward" strategy

#36117
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llbountyhunter wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


OH CRAP! *hides under rug*


I'm safe.  I still have faith in her and have never said a bad word about her.  Because, as you ALL know, I love her.  And that's what a person in love does. ;)



its a love/hate relationship.... but mostly love.:)



Going to repost this till i get banned.

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#36118
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llbountyhunter wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


oh, you know the argument.... theres quite a list

bioware is lazy.
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
oh yeah and.. 
bioware is lazy. 



+1


They develope this extensive Codex (voiced) have a large cast of voice actors, design this massive game and then they cut corners on the ending?  They want to have a major twist for an ending.  Like Sixth Sense, Vader is Luke's father, and your character in KOTOR is Revan.  

And for those that didn't play KOTOR - Bioware made that game too.  That was plot twist was EPIC!! 

#36119
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Tirian Thorn wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


Another point I keep bringing up, but that needs to be mentioned:

Bioware knew the ending would generate speculation, discussion and that it would be polarizing.  They knew it from day one and get this - they wanted it.  ME3 has gotten more attention than any other game.  Maybe they don't like some of the hate mail they're getting, but press is good.  People who normally wouldn't check out ME3 probably did just to see what the fuss was. 

I think it is possible that they had ending DLC planned from day one, but that they weren't set of all the specifics.  Due to backlash they decided to move things forward at a quicker pace than planned. 


You make a good point.  This is quite possibly the most well known thing in gaming right now.  I mean, this controversy has been in FORBES for crying out loud!

#36120
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RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


OH CRAP! *hides under rug*


Good, maybe she will stop stating everything like it is complete fact....

#36121
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Tirian Thorn wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


oh, you know the argument.... theres quite a list

bioware is lazy.
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
oh yeah and.. 
bioware is lazy. 



+1


They develope this extensive Codex (voiced) have a large cast of voice actors, design this massive game and then they cut corners on the ending?  They want to have a major twist for an ending.  Like Sixth Sense, Vader is Luke's father, and your character in KOTOR is Revan.  

And for those that didn't play KOTOR - Bioware made that game too.  That was plot twist was EPIC!! 


STILL quite possibly my favorite plot twist ever.  And yes, I've played Bioshock.

#36122
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Tirian Thorn wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I'd really like to know why people don't think BioWare had this planned.. QA is being done already. Which means they already had at least some things ready, there's NO way you can do even just cinematics in like 5 days since the announcement. Certainly wouldn't be in the QA stage if they were just starting it.

I'm convinced they had this planned, and who knows, it may have been scheduled for a later date but they had to rush to finish it because of this backlash.


oh, you know the argument.... theres quite a list

bioware is lazy.
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
bioware is lazy. 
oh yeah and.. 
bioware is lazy. 



+1


They develope this extensive Codex (voiced) have a large cast of voice actors, design this massive game and then they cut corners on the ending?  They want to have a major twist for an ending.  Like Sixth Sense, Vader is Luke's father, and your character in KOTOR is Revan.  

And for those that didn't play KOTOR - Bioware made that game too.  That was plot twist was EPIC!! 


Ah, don't SPOIL people and the mention them! :o

#36123
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lex0r11 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


OH CRAP! *hides under rug*


I'm safe.  I still have faith in her and have never said a bad word about her.  Because, as you ALL know, I love her.  And that's what a person in love does. ;)



its a love/hate relationship.... but mostly love.:)



Going to repost this till i get banned.

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Why would you be banned for that?  I think she would take it as a compliment, not a "personal attack".

#36124
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savagejuicebox wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

lol... Jessicas on to us.

https://twitter.com/...667786358493185


Quick everybody scatter!


OH CRAP! *hides under rug*


Good, maybe she will stop stating everything like it is complete fact....


OI!  Don't talk that way about my woman! :)

#36125
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Dwailing wrote...

Why would you be banned for that?  I think she would take it as a compliment, not a "personal attack".


No, i mean for picture spamming. :D