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RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

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Guys!!!

Found this...

Don't know if old news, but I think is interesting at least...

Looks like the Starchild... A LOT.

The pic was taken in the Docks Holding Area of the Citadel.

Seems bad news for IT (I'm a full IT Supporter btw)


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Doesn't necessarily mean anything I personally think the kid was real till he either died in the shuttle or in that building. After he died he is just being used by the Reapers to guilt Shepard into submission basically. So it would make sense then for someone to put a picture of him there in remembrance.


Me, I think he was real when Shepard first saw him out the window. After that, things just get too weird. So yeah, his picture being among the missing isn't bad news for IDT.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TheDarkPal wrote...

Guys!!!

Found this...

Don't know if old news, but I think is interesting at least...

Looks like the Starchild... A LOT.

The pic was taken in the Docks Holding Area of the Citadel.

Seems bad news for IT (I'm a full IT Supporter btw)



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Note the text reads; "Last seen on Earth." As in no confirmation of death. Meaning more than likely this gives an indication that the kid when we first see him in the first minute of gameplay was real. After that, he disappears. Though this DOES settle the issue of whether the child was ever real or not. Apparently the Reapers are lazy enough that they chose a real kid for the template.



I've always figured the kid was real the first time we see him, mostly because I've known about that picture since like the day the game came out. I figure he probably wasnt real when we see him in the vent though, because even if he was real when you see him run into that room, I dont see how anything could survive the explosion the Reaper laser caused in that room.


Oh easily. Though the other fellow made a good point, the picture itself could just be a hallucination, trying to give more legitimacy to the kid's existence in Shep's mind. After all, if they can make him hallucinate an entire child, I doubt a picture frame is a paticularly tall order.

But yeah, there is no way in hell the kid is real after the first time you see him. He scales a sheer, polished metal wall, with little to no handholds like Speedy Gonzales on coke, something even the Husks were having difficulty doing, runs THROUGH a locked door, the red light never changing, when every oher time we see a door opened, the door light turns green, indicating it is unlocked, AND THEN survives a direct hit on the beam FROM A SOVEREIGN class capital ship, somehow, is NOT found and eaten by Husks, hides in a vent that had no paticular reason to be open, which by the way has it's own unique texture of a warning sign that just looks weird and is seen NOWHERE else, at all, then he is not even referenced OR NOTICED at all by Anderson, acts dramatically out of character for a 9 year old boy watching his planet burn, using a strange phrase that seems designed more to chip at Shepard's resolve than anything else, before disappearing in a flash with NO sound, not even making a noise as he is just there one minute and gone the next, and THEN somehow getting through a literal warzone that even two highly trained commandos and N7 graduates were having difficulty with while ARMED, both of whom are by the way, athletic, full grown men, loading onto a shuttle where everyone seems to be completely oblivious to his presence, before the shuttle is blown to pieces. Appropriately enough, by a Reaper.

How anyone can think that kid is real is beyond me.

EDIT: also, has it occured to no one else that if this were the case and the kid were real the whole time, even his death, that Shepard would either have the option or maybe a quest or a cutscene to basically go "Hey lady, I saw your son die in a shuttle crash"? Especially the way he's obsessing about the kid?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

TheDarkPal wrote...

Guys!!!

Found this...

Don't know if old news, but I think is interesting at least...

Looks like the Starchild... A LOT.

The pic was taken in the Docks Holding Area of the Citadel.

Seems bad news for IT (I'm a full IT Supporter btw)



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Note the text reads; "Last seen on Earth." As in no confirmation of death. Meaning more than likely this gives an indication that the kid when we first see him in the first minute of gameplay was real. After that, he disappears. Though this DOES settle the issue of whether the child was ever real or not. Apparently the Reapers are lazy enough that they chose a real kid for the template.



I've always figured the kid was real the first time we see him, mostly because I've known about that picture since like the day the game came out. I figure he probably wasnt real when we see him in the vent though, because even if he was real when you see him run into that room, I dont see how anything could survive the explosion the Reaper laser caused in that room.


Oh easily. Though the other fellow made a good point, the picture itself could just be a hallucination, trying to give more legitimacy to the kid's existence in Shep's mind. After all, if they can make him hallucinate an entire child, I doubt a picture frame is a paticularly tall order.

But yeah, there is no way in hell the kid is real after the first time you see him. He scales a sheer, polished metal wall, with little to no handholds like Speedy Gonzales on coke, something even the Husks were having difficulty doing, runs THROUGH a locked door, the red light never changing, when every oher time we see a door opened, the door light turns green, indicating it is unlocked, AND THEN survives a direct hit on the beam FROM A SOVEREIGN class capital ship, somehow, is NOT found and eaten by Husks, hides in a vent that had no paticular reason to be open, which by the way has it's own unique texture of a warning sign that just looks weird and is seen NOWHERE else, at all, then he is not even referenced OR NOTICED at all by Anderson, acts dramatically out of character for a 9 year old boy watching his planet burn, using a strange phrase that seems designed more to chip at Shepard's resolve than anything else, before disappearing in a flash with NO sound, not even making a noise as he is just there one minute and gone the next, and THEN somehow getting through a literal warzone that even two highly trained commandos and N7 graduates were having difficulty with while ARMED, both of whom are by the way, athletic, full grown men, loading onto a shuttle where everyone seems to be completely oblivious to his presence, before the shuttle is blown to pieces. Appropriately enough, by a Reaper.

How anyone can think that kid is real is beyond me.

EDIT: also, has it occured to no one else that if this were the case and the kid were real the whole time, even his death, that Shepard would either have the option or maybe a quest or a cutscene to basically go "Hey lady, I saw your son die in a shuttle crash"? Especially the way he's obsessing about the kid?


Agreed.

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The whole scene where we see the kid die is weird to me. No one seems to pay attention to the Reaper destroyer except for the kid, and when you see the Reaper destroyer at the Shroud on Tuchanka, Mordin calls it a new type of Reaper, implying no one had actually seen that type before.

And why does destroyer just let the Normandy leave? Its not like the stealth systems hid it. You were in visual range. The destroyer on Rannoch recognized Shepard personally, you'd think other destroyers would recognize the Normandy as Shepard's ship, and would try to take it out instead of just letting it leave.

Plus, Anderson tells Shepard to go to the Council, and get help from them. Ash is standing right there, but once the Normandy leaves, Ash is all Whats happening? Where are we going?'

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byne wrote...

The whole scene where we see the kid die is weird to me. No one seems to pay attention to the Reaper destroyer except for the kid, and when you see the Reaper destroyer at the Shroud on Tuchanka, Mordin calls it a new type of Reaper, implying no one had actually seen that type before.

And why does destroyer just let the Normandy leave? Its not like the stealth systems hid it. You were in visual range. The destroyer on Rannoch recognized Shepard personally, you'd think other destroyers would recognize the Normandy as Shepard's ship, and would try to take it out instead of just letting it leave.

Plus, Anderson tells Shepard to go to the Council, and get help from them. Ash is standing right there, but once the Normandy leaves, Ash is all Whats happening? Where are we going?'


Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

That picture also says the very... undescriptive "Last Seen on Earth"

Boy that really narrows it down, don't it? lol


Has anyone seen my keys?  The last time I saw them they were in the Virgo Supercluster.

But seriously, yeah, the picture doesn't mean anything one way or another.  It could be real, or it could be another hallucination.  Or there's also the third possibility: it's real but it's not him.  I mean that's like a 50 by 50 jpg, there's not enough detail to be positive it's him.  It looks like him, but it also looks like 5 billion other kids.

I also vaguely recall someone saying that Allers has a picture memorial wall in her cabin too but that frame is mysteriously absent.  I can't vouch for the authenticity though.  I'm afraid to go in there.  I went in there one time and she was changing.  ...  God.  ...  It was like watching a shapeshifter have a seizure. :(

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.


Well, I know Ash heard what Anderson said, because its possible for her to reference it in the standoff during the Cerberus coup, I just found that kinda off that she didnt really know what was going on.

As for Mordin, you'd think someone like him would go over all the records on board the Normandy. Surely there'd be like, recordings from cameras on the ship or at least mentions in the logs of the Reaper destroyer they escaped on Earth. Mordin isnt the kind of person who'd miss things like that.

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TheDarkPal wrote...

Guys!!!

Found this...

Don't know if old news, but I think is interesting at least...

Looks like the Starchild... A LOT.

The pic was taken in the Docks Holding Area of the Citadel.

Seems bad news for IT (I'm a full IT Supporter btw)


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The thing that bothers me most about the picture of this missing boy is the fact that his parents let him play on a roof top all by himself.  To top it off the parents also let the boy go all "Mirrors Edge" to get in a room that is locked several buldings away, which then gets blown to hell while he is crawling through an electrified vent.  What kind of parents let this happen? What were they teaching this very troubled boy?  What kind of boy can do this and survive?  Posted Image

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I'm afraid to go in there.  I went in there one time and she was changing.  ...  God.  ...  It was like watching a shapeshifter have a seizure.


I've been afraid of video game characters who have random glitches with their models for a long time.


I like this video of a guard turning into a bird in Assassin's Creed though.

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Why is TIM on the Citadel? The Prothean VI on the Cronos Station tells Shepard he flew there. The other question is: What are the black tendrils in the final scene? One of the terminals on Sanctuary has info on nanides attaching themselves to adrenalin and travelling throough the body of a person to accelerate the indoctrination process.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.


Well, I know Ash heard what Anderson said, because its possible for her to reference it in the standoff during the Cerberus coup, I just found that kinda off that she didnt really know what was going on.

As for Mordin, you'd think someone like him would go over all the records on board the Normandy. Surely there'd be like, recordings from cameras on the ship or at least mentions in the logs of the Reaper destroyer they escaped on Earth. Mordin isnt the kind of person who'd miss things like that.


Like I said, to me it sounded more like a confirmation.

As fo Mordin, I'd hazard a guess he had more pressing things on his mind... like, oh say curing the Genophage?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.


Yep.  And another note: remember how the Normandy is "one of the few ships that can get the primarch out undetected"?  No, it can't.  The Normandy's stealth system means jack diddly squat to Reapers.  Even their slaves the Collectors could see through it just fine.  Remember the start of ME2?

Ensign: Picking up something on the long-range scanner. Unidentified vessel. Looks like a cruiser.
Joker: Doesn't match any known signatures.
Ensign: Cruiser is changing course. Now on intercept trajectory.
Pressly: Can't be. Stealth systems are engaged. There's no way a geth ship could--
Joker: It's not the geth! Brace for evasive maneuvers!

In seconds we went from "something on long range scanner" to "Kinetic barriers down! Multiple hull breaches! Weapons offline! Somebody get that fire out!"

The Oculus could also see past their stealth.  And, interestingly enough, it's the only thing that could see through infiltrator Shepard's cloak.

So Councilor Sparatus was wrong (as usual), the Normandy couldn't get through undetected.  Either the writers completely forgot about it, or the Reapers let them go.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.


Well, I know Ash heard what Anderson said, because its possible for her to reference it in the standoff during the Cerberus coup, I just found that kinda off that she didnt really know what was going on.

As for Mordin, you'd think someone like him would go over all the records on board the Normandy. Surely there'd be like, recordings from cameras on the ship or at least mentions in the logs of the Reaper destroyer they escaped on Earth. Mordin isnt the kind of person who'd miss things like that.


Like I said, to me it sounded more like a confirmation.

As fo Mordin, I'd hazard a guess he had more pressing things on his mind... like, oh say curing the Genophage?


He had time to give Joker sex advice in regards to EDI, so I figure he has some free time.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

The whole scene where we see the kid die is weird to me. No one seems to pay attention to the Reaper destroyer except for the kid, and when you see the Reaper destroyer at the Shroud on Tuchanka, Mordin calls it a new type of Reaper, implying no one had actually seen that type before.

And why does destroyer just let the Normandy leave? Its not like the stealth systems hid it. You were in visual range. The destroyer on Rannoch recognized Shepard personally, you'd think other destroyers would recognize the Normandy as Shepard's ship, and would try to take it out instead of just letting it leave.

Plus, Anderson tells Shepard to go to the Council, and get help from them. Ash is standing right there, but once the Normandy leaves, Ash is all Whats happening? Where are we going?'


Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.

Gotta agree the Ash/Mordin things do sound maybe a little too far fetched, even in here :D but who knows.
Not really far fetched, more like not needed to advance the story and/or indoctrination plot.

The part about the destroyer letting Shepard go is interesting, I'd always discounted that as suspension of disbelief, Normandy's cloak going into plot-mehcanic-overdrive or something.
Ties in nicely with Harbingers weird exit at the end too indeed.

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byne wrote...

He had time to give Joker sex advice in regards to EDI, so I figure he has some free time.


:o  Oh.  My God.

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Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.


Yep.  And another note: remember how the Normandy is "one of the few ships that can get the primarch out undetected"?  No, it can't.  The Normandy's stealth system means jack diddly squat to Reapers.  Even their slaves the Collectors could see through it just fine.  Remember the start of ME2?

Ensign: Picking up something on the long-range scanner. Unidentified vessel. Looks like a cruiser.
Joker: Doesn't match any known signatures.
Ensign: Cruiser is changing course. Now on intercept trajectory.
Pressly: Can't be. Stealth systems are engaged. There's no way a geth ship could--
Joker: It's not the geth! Brace for evasive maneuvers!

In seconds we went from "something on long range scanner" to "Kinetic barriers down! Multiple hull breaches! Weapons offline! Somebody get that fire out!"

The Oculus could also see past their stealth.  And, interestingly enough, it's the only thing that could see through infiltrator Shepard's cloak.

So Councilor Sparatus was wrong (as usual), the Normandy couldn't get through undetected.  Either the writers completely forgot about it, or the Reapers let them go.


My god.. I completely forgot that even. That would be hindsight BRILLIANCE assuming IT is right. Which we do :)

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Rifneno wrote...

Yep.  And another note: remember how the Normandy is "one of the few ships that can get the primarch out undetected"?  No, it can't.  The Normandy's stealth system means jack diddly squat to Reapers.  Even their slaves the Collectors could see through it just fine.  Remember the start of ME2?

Ensign: Picking up something on the long-range scanner. Unidentified vessel. Looks like a cruiser.
Joker: Doesn't match any known signatures.
Ensign: Cruiser is changing course. Now on intercept trajectory.
Pressly: Can't be. Stealth systems are engaged. There's no way a geth ship could--
Joker: It's not the geth! Brace for evasive maneuvers!

In seconds we went from "something on long range scanner" to "Kinetic barriers down! Multiple hull breaches! Weapons offline! Somebody get that fire out!"

The Oculus could also see past their stealth.  And, interestingly enough, it's the only thing that could see through infiltrator Shepard's cloak.

So Councilor Sparatus was wrong (as usual), the Normandy couldn't get through undetected.  Either the writers completely forgot about it, or the Reapers let them go.

Good points, and in hindsight seems so obvious :/
There's so much awesomeness that you (or atleast I) disregard as mere plot-mechanics in the heat of the moment.
Gives a nice tingle down the spine, piecing it all together afterwards though. :)

It's the same with the ending, first (and only) time I played it, after Harbingers beam I thought "this is probably a dream" but when the enemies came and I had an inf-ammo gun, I disregarded this as "oh here comes a new end sequence mechanic".

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Nauks wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Yep.  And another note: remember how the Normandy is "one of the few ships that can get the primarch out undetected"?  No, it can't.  The Normandy's stealth system means jack diddly squat to Reapers.  Even their slaves the Collectors could see through it just fine.  Remember the start of ME2?

Ensign: Picking up something on the long-range scanner. Unidentified vessel. Looks like a cruiser.
Joker: Doesn't match any known signatures.
Ensign: Cruiser is changing course. Now on intercept trajectory.
Pressly: Can't be. Stealth systems are engaged. There's no way a geth ship could--
Joker: It's not the geth! Brace for evasive maneuvers!

In seconds we went from "something on long range scanner" to "Kinetic barriers down! Multiple hull breaches! Weapons offline! Somebody get that fire out!"

The Oculus could also see past their stealth.  And, interestingly enough, it's the only thing that could see through infiltrator Shepard's cloak.

So Councilor Sparatus was wrong (as usual), the Normandy couldn't get through undetected.  Either the writers completely forgot about it, or the Reapers let them go.

Good points, and in hindsight seems so obvious :/
There's so much awesomeness that you (or atleast I) disregard as mere plot-mechanics in the heat of the moment.
Gives a nice tingle down the spine, piecing it all together afterwards though. :)

It's the same with the ending, first (and only) time I played it, after Harbingers beam I thought "this is probably a dream" but when the enemies came and I had an inf-ammo gun, I disregarded this as "oh here comes a new end sequence mechanic".


Same here.

I'm looking forward to finding out how much of all these 'sloppy writing' was actually intended.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Nauks wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Yep.  And another note: remember how the Normandy is "one of the few ships that can get the primarch out undetected"?  No, it can't.  The Normandy's stealth system means jack diddly squat to Reapers.  Even their slaves the Collectors could see through it just fine.  Remember the start of ME2?

Ensign: Picking up something on the long-range scanner. Unidentified vessel. Looks like a cruiser.
Joker: Doesn't match any known signatures.
Ensign: Cruiser is changing course. Now on intercept trajectory.
Pressly: Can't be. Stealth systems are engaged. There's no way a geth ship could--
Joker: It's not the geth! Brace for evasive maneuvers!

In seconds we went from "something on long range scanner" to "Kinetic barriers down! Multiple hull breaches! Weapons offline! Somebody get that fire out!"

The Oculus could also see past their stealth.  And, interestingly enough, it's the only thing that could see through infiltrator Shepard's cloak.

So Councilor Sparatus was wrong (as usual), the Normandy couldn't get through undetected.  Either the writers completely forgot about it, or the Reapers let them go.

Good points, and in hindsight seems so obvious :/
There's so much awesomeness that you (or atleast I) disregard as mere plot-mechanics in the heat of the moment.
Gives a nice tingle down the spine, piecing it all together afterwards though. :)

It's the same with the ending, first (and only) time I played it, after Harbingers beam I thought "this is probably a dream" but when the enemies came and I had an inf-ammo gun, I disregarded this as "oh here comes a new end sequence mechanic".


Same here.

I'm looking forward to finding out how much of all these 'sloppy writing' was actually intended.


Also, think about it in game mechanics. When scanning, you can usually get off MAYBE 3 tries, if you're lucky. The Normandy is supposed to be a stealth system SO advanced that you should be able to do DAYS of passive observation. 

Basically, I think that it's very easy for them to find you. You can slip through unless they know where you are, or give yourself away in any way

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Disagree on the count with Ash, she is more asking "Well, he said go to the Council, are you sure that's our plan?"

Mordin likely says what he does because it's a type HE'S not seen before.

Though, letting the Normandy go is VERY telling. The Reapers WANT him to escape. Just like why Harbinger lets Shepard live and flies off at the end.

It's because they already know they have their hooks in him. They're the ones pulling the strings.


Yep.  And another note: remember how the Normandy is "one of the few ships that can get the primarch out undetected"?  No, it can't.  The Normandy's stealth system means jack diddly squat to Reapers.  Even their slaves the Collectors could see through it just fine.  Remember the start of ME2?

Ensign: Picking up something on the long-range scanner. Unidentified vessel. Looks like a cruiser.
Joker: Doesn't match any known signatures.
Ensign: Cruiser is changing course. Now on intercept trajectory.
Pressly: Can't be. Stealth systems are engaged. There's no way a geth ship could--
Joker: It's not the geth! Brace for evasive maneuvers!

In seconds we went from "something on long range scanner" to "Kinetic barriers down! Multiple hull breaches! Weapons offline! Somebody get that fire out!"

The Oculus could also see past their stealth.  And, interestingly enough, it's the only thing that could see through infiltrator Shepard's cloak.

So Councilor Sparatus was wrong (as usual), the Normandy couldn't get through undetected.  Either the writers completely forgot about it, or the Reapers let them go.


My god.. I completely forgot that even. That would be hindsight BRILLIANCE assuming IT is right. Which we do :)


Mmm, I'm a bit skeptical on this one. I always figured the Reapers were busy, you know, invading and stuff.

However, if it turns out that the Reapers did let the Normandy escape . . . well, that'd be quite interesting, would it? B)

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What's say we ask Gamble about this one? Did the Reapers LET the Normandy escape?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

What's say we ask Gamble about this one? Did the Reapers LET the Normandy escape?


Go ahead.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

What's say we ask Gamble about this one? Did the Reapers LET the Normandy escape?


Seconded.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

What's say we ask Gamble about this one? Did the Reapers LET the Normandy escape?


I don't know. If Shepard died at the beginning, there wouldn't be ME3. So the scene is more for the player to see that the situation is bad on Earth. Of course, the death of the child is another story (IT).

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

What's say we ask Gamble about this one? Did the Reapers LET the Normandy escape?


Seconded.


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