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Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory


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Made some improvements to my altered version of this theory.

I seriously recommend taking a look.

It's basically IDT without disregarding the end as a complete hallucination and much more likely to be what is explained in the Extended Cut rather than the IDT itself. BW said they aren't changing the ending, IDT requires the ending to technically change, this version doesn't. Tell me what you think.

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Cucobr wrote...

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This post is Krogan approved :o:O:O

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Cucobr

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right? right??

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Hello from se Europes! It's lunch time over here.

What's news?

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Cucobr wrote...
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Terrifying.

Anything interesting happened in the last few days? I've been away since Thursday.

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I'm really ok, if one possible ensing is a Reaper win ending.. than all in between.. but I also would have liked a good ending for SHep/Galaxy/LI and friends.. so everybody could have the ending they want.. but what do we have .... Space Magic !!!

The only hope is IDT..

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Nothing people... no news.

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Ok so if synthasis would make the geth half organic and half synthetic then how would they reproduce.... Would space magic give them reproductive organs and enable tiny mechanical geth babies? Some how i think people against IT fail to think of the crazy stuff they defend..... Also @Lex0r11 lets see you get a pic for this!!

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@Fallout:

That's a thing I really fail to understand - I can totally accept that some people do not support IT, but the current ending at face value is just such a tremendous amount of nonsense that I cannot even imagine any reasonable person defend this.

Modifié par schneeland, 15 avril 2012 - 11:06 .


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@schneeland also with synthasis the player would be limiting the geth so much more because as half and half they wouldn't be able to transfer to different platforms or objects with enough processing power so would be unable to help the quarians with the imune system jump start using the quarians suits.......... although with no mass relays it wouldn't realy matter, plus what type of food would the geth eat being part organic? SO MANY HOLES IN THE LOGIC!!! Posted Image

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

Ok so if synthasis would make the geth half organic and half synthetic then how would they reproduce.... Would space magic give them reproductive organs and enable tiny mechanical geth babies? Some how i think people against IT fail to think of the crazy stuff they defend..... Also @Lex0r11 lets see you get a pic for this!!


impossible to conjecture.

We will no longer human, we have the physiognomy of humans only.

How will we feed ourselves?
How will we reproduce?
How do we think? Calculate?
Will We need air to breathe?

Everything is possible in this ending.

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Cucobr wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

Ok so if synthasis would make the geth half organic and half synthetic then how would they reproduce.... Would space magic give them reproductive organs and enable tiny mechanical geth babies? Some how i think people against IT fail to think of the crazy stuff they defend..... Also @Lex0r11 lets see you get a pic for this!!


impossible to conjecture.

We will no longer human, we have the physiognomy of humans only.

How will we feed ourselves?
How will we reproduce?
How do we think? Calculate?
Will We need air to breathe?

Everything is possible in this ending.


 I only say two words: "Space Magic !!!"  The solutuon to everything.. it even stuffs plot wholes as big as black wholes.

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@cucobr I know that pretty much anything could happen in synthasis ending im just saying that in the lore of the game and ME universe its just realy realy improbable and most likely impossible.

also its what you wrote is realy creepy when red in harbringers voice Posted Image

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 But if IT is true that means there is no Space Magic?:crying:

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

Ok so if synthasis would make the
geth half organic and half synthetic then how would they reproduce....
Would space magic give them reproductive organs and enable tiny
mechanical geth babies? Some how i think people against IT fail to think
of the crazy stuff they defend..... Also @Lex0r11 lets see you get a
pic for this!!



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Ravel1992 wrote...

 But if IT is true that means there is no Space Magic?:crying:


When IT is true, you don't have to worry about Synthesis, cause it is not real  XD

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@lex0r11 oh hey buddy i didn't...... i meen erm......

QUICK!!!

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Okay, this one is a little out there. I'm wondering if I should even say it because of the IT opponents' tendency to think mocking the weakest possibly IT hints debunks the whole thing but then again they'll do that anyway...

EDI: Personalization of your workspace does not include grease on my bridge cameras.
Joker: *chuckles* It's just mad because all its footage of me looks like a dream sequence.

Maybe that blurry **** around the edges of the screen could be a reference to that instead of the oily shadows?

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@rifneno hmm mabee, mabee not but anything is possible for now =/

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Okay, i can't decide on the picture, so you'll have to choose.

Have to do another with EDI.

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There is just one thing that came to mind lately about this Indoctrination Theory (which I don't support, but if it means it allows some people to cope with the ending, excellent). What bothers me is that people continuously batter this forum about how Bioware lied to them about their 16 different endings, yet the promise that this game would bring Shepard's story to a conclusive end (don't ask for an exact quote cause I shan't be bothered to look for one, but we all know they said this) is ignored by the IT supporter. For the record, the way I understand the Indoctrination Theory is that Shepard wakes up and the battle continuous (no end at all) or the even less logical that even though he was indoctrinated it destroyed the Reapers and thus we do get an end but it begs the question why the Reapers have a destroy option at all when it would be just as easy as having it blow up in Shepard's face.

Again, I don't mind at all if you support the theory, but please don't judge people who don't as fools for not seeing the 'obvious' signs you see.

Modifié par Stegoceras, 15 avril 2012 - 12:51 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

Ugh. Just got home from running the weekly Pathfinder game, and find so many people whom I want to refute their stupidity, and so many jokes to share with friends and fellow IDTers, and now it is too late and the moment is passed. I am sad v.v


Yah Pathfinder for the win :P

unrelated I am heading home from Japan (switching in Helsinki at the moment) so will soon be back in a better time loop to discuss with all of you :happy:

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The second one!

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Stegoceras wrote...

There is just one thing that came to mind lately about this Indoctrination Theory (which I don't support, but if it means it allows some people to cope with the ending, excellent). What bothers me is that people continuously batter this forum about how Bioware lied to them about their 16 different endings, yet the promise that this game would bring Shepard's story to a conclusive end (don't ask for an exact quote cause I shan't be bothered to look for one, but we all know they said this) is ignored by the IT supporter. For the record, the way I understand the Indoctrination Theory is that Shepard wakes up and the battle continuous (no end at all) or the even less logical that even though he was indoctrinated it destroyed the Reapers and thus we do get an end but it begs the question why the Reapers have a destroy option at all when it would be just as easy as having it blow up in Shepard's face.

Again, I don't mind at all if you support the theory, but please don't judge people who don't as fools for not seeing the 'obvious' signs you see.


Yeah IT essentially explains that Shepard wakes up in the rubble on Earth the battle still going. It only covers the plot holes of the current ending turning it into the twist of the century.

However a lot of us IT believers are also well aware that that is not an ending and pretty much expect the extended cut fills in that part if IT is true. Several people have posted ideas as to how things can be wrapped up neatly throughout thee thread.