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[Headbutters inc]

The hypothesis that the 'player' is indoctrinated is by far the most interesting point in which could validate what Bioware could be up to with their explanation of artistic integrity.

If they left the ending as it is (without the post ending kick in the balls 'Shepherd is a legend now buy our dlc') everyone would have to make their own assumptions without the promise of the free Extended Cut. Where would that leave us?

I guess they must be lazy.

[SS2Dante]

byne wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Maybe the Citadel actually is a Reaper.. made from an extinct race which just happened to look like that.

Like starfish?

"Is this the Citadel?"

"No, this is Patrick!"

YOU WIN. YOU WIN EVERYTHING, FOREVER!

[Golferguy758]

I'd like to toss this thought that I came up with while reading a case file.

You know how thety said that ec wasn't planned from prior to release(i don't believe it, but let's go with it)? What if the intent of waiting was to get player opinion on how the game should end. Like to see what exactly people want ot of the endings. This would in turn give them more time to make a suitable emding that players had a hand in forming.

Is it likely? Probably not, but an amusing thought I came up with just now.

[balance5050]

Golferguy758 wrote...

I'd like to toss this thought that I came up with while reading a case file.

You know how thety said that ec wasn't planned from prior to release(i don't believe it, but let's go with it)? What if the intent of waiting was to get player opinion on how the game should end. Like to see what exactly people want ot of the endings. This would in turn give them more time to make a suitable emding that players had a hand in forming.

Is it likely? Probably not, but an amusing thought I came up with just now.

I've had that thought for a LONG time now.

[IronSabbath88]

I'm growing very tired of this "indoctrination theory is a non ending" crap that seems to be the new popular term for people who don't like it.

No, it's not an ending, but you know what it IS? It's the clarification and expansion that BioWare spoke of. It still GIVES you that chance to have all your questions answered and to get your closure. It allows for the story to continue. And here you are telling me that it's a non ending? YOU'LL GET YOUR ENDING STILL!

In the end, we all get what we want, BioWare keeps their vision, us IT people are happy we nailed it and the people who wanted their closure get that too.

[DirtyPhoenix]

What exactly are the factors that determine which other squad member, along with your LI walks out of the Normandy at the end? I'm trying to make EDI walk out of it after a destroy ending.

[MJF JD]

as far as i know you have to bring edi along with you for the final mission.

[savagejuicebox]

Phillips94 wrote...

sorry no, just no, this theory means bioware and EA gave us an unfinished product on purpose and if it wasnt for this huge out cry from fans then we would still be getting the dlc this summer but it would be paid dlc. PLus make all decisions from ME3 pointless as you are not in control

There are plenty of games that have cliff hanger endings or just "non-endings" or games that add on to the endings or change the endings. It happens what makes mass effect so different? ^^^ this argument is so overused get over it, what will you not download the FREE DLC?

[EpyonX3]

pirate1802 wrote...

What exactly are the factors that determine which other squad member, along with your LI walks out of the Normandy at the end? I'm trying to make EDI walk out of it after a destroy ending.

I would imagine getting edi to come out would require a huge amount of EMS. Seems the more EMS you have the least amount of damage the red space magic does.

[Spartas Husky]

EpyonX3 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

What exactly are the factors that determine which other squad member, along with your LI walks out of the Normandy at the end? I'm trying to make EDI walk out of it after a destroy ending.

I would imagine getting edi to come out would require a huge amount of EMS. Seems the more EMS you have the least amount of damage the red space magic does.

Isn't everything after 4000 just eye candy?

[Headbutters inc]

Also Casey Hudson's explanation on dlc via timskywalker's link:

There’s some multiplayer stuff, but we’re also planning some DLC on the single-player side, because it did really good in Mass Effect 2. There’s a reason why we can add stories to what’s there. The adventure-type DLC will happen in the time frame of Mass Effect 3, within your Mass Effect 3 storyline. It’s similar to how with Mass Effect 2, if you had a saved game from anywhere inside the game, you could go on to the DLC. We have a pretty neat concept for how it’s going to work.

''We have a pretty neat concept for how it’s going to work.''

Has anyone pointed this quote out yet?

[Golferguy758]

@balance

Great minds...

or insane ones!

[MaximizedAction]

Hey, check out this tweet from Jessica:

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/191951378187436034

He did not write "mind games"

More hope to read into in these dark days of doubt, huh?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 16 avril 2012 - 06:29 .

[Cloudster]

Headbutters inc wrote...

Also Casey Hudson's explanation on dlc via timskywalker's link:

There’s some multiplayer stuff, but we’re also planning some DLC on the single-player side, because it did really good in Mass Effect 2. There’s a reason why we can add stories to what’s there. The adventure-type DLC will happen in the time frame of Mass Effect 3, within your Mass Effect 3 storyline. It’s similar to how with Mass Effect 2, if you had a saved game from anywhere inside the game, you could go on to the DLC. We have a pretty neat concept for how it’s going to work.

''We have a pretty neat concept for how it’s going to work.''

Has anyone pointed this quote out yet?

Will anyone really buy ME3 DLC? ME2 DLC did well because everyone was under the impression that we were still fighting for something. 

[Golferguy758]

@headbutters

I think the more interesting statement is the one that says "there's a reason we can add stories to what's there"

/speculation

[DirtyPhoenix]

MJF JD wrote...

as far as i know you have to bring edi along with you for the final mission.

Last time I brought Garrus (LI) and Javik on the final mission, Garrus walked out alright, but instead of Javik, James game out..

[Bill Casey]

Phillips94 wrote...

sorry no, just no, this theory means bioware and EA gave us an unfinished product on purpose and if it wasnt for this huge out cry from fans then we would still be getting the dlc this summer but it would be paid dlc.

Capcom just did exactly what you're talking about...

www.thatvideogameblog.com/2012/04/01/opinion-capcoms-biggest-crime-yet-asuras-wrath-dlc/

So that begs the question, do you think EA is morally superior to Capcom?

[Golferguy758]

@maximized

I love jessica but be careful about reading too much into her tweets. She tweets from a fan perspective. Take what she says when referring to the endings with a grain of salt

[ExtendedCut]

Golferguy758 wrote...

I'd like to toss this thought that I came up with while reading a case file.

You know how thety said that ec wasn't planned from prior to release(i don't believe it, but let's go with it)? What if the intent of waiting was to get player opinion on how the game should end. Like to see what exactly people want ot of the endings. This would in turn give them more time to make a suitable emding that players had a hand in forming.

Is it likely? Probably not, but an amusing thought I came up with just now.

But if that was the case, why keep pissing people off with this constant mention of "artistic integrity"?  They HAVE to have known that phrase was going to make people mad. 

I don't think any company that relies on the public to survive is going to purposely say "We want to listen to the players, but we're sticking with our artistic integrity", when they were actually looking for the players' opinions.

[SS2Dante]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Hey, check out this tweet from Jessica:

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/191951378187436034

He did not write "mind games"

More hope to read into in these dark days of doubt, huh?

Do you know what's weird? Clicking on that link then realising it's my tweet

Didn't even know she'd replied.

[Spartas Husky]

I probably wont to be honest. I just dont have it in me to support bioware.

This "free dlc" crap with resurgence was a joke.

The level of repairs and add ins to the game needed in the ending, is nothing short of somethign on the level of shadow broker dlc +.
But anything they might charge is 1 microsoft point too many. So they at are an impasse.
No free dlc is worth it in Single player at least non I've heard off.

They've set a standard with overlord, which I thought shadow broker was over priced. Given the length and size of overlord for just 560.

So if they charge anything above 560 for this "extended" dlc. would be reidiculous. And I know the level of work has to exceed 800 easy. Given is EA Id oubt they'll pass the opportunity to milk all of you buggers , no offense, itching for anything but the ending.

[IronSabbath88]

I've tried to get EDI to walk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

Modifié par IronSabbath88, 16 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[Skillz1986]

Wow, just glad that "was the explosion strong enough to kill shepard?" debate is over.
Can't believe it ever started. oh, one thing according to the video epyon keeps referring to (over and over and over and over again), the fly cam vid. the grooves in the rubble, which supposedly match the grooves found within the metal plates on the citadel, can also be foun on tuchanka..on the turia platoon mission. the rubble all around that map, has the exact same grooves in it. oh, it can also be found in the rubble laying in london...and probably everywhere goddamn else rubble can be found. no offense here, just pointing out. i'm not even going start talking about the fact...that there simply is no concrete on the citadel.

[Spartas Husky]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've tried to get EDI to talk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

not sure on the second. I took Garrus for most of the game. Until after the Ranoch mission did I start taking 1 different in order at the time. Except for Ashley. Still angry at her.

And yet she and Liara walk out of the normandy... I dont get Ashley getting out. IN my first game. I took Liara and Garrus every single mission and they both came out of the normandy. My last playthrough was my LI, and the person I almost never took with me lol

[Spartas Husky]

Skillz1986 wrote...

that there simply is no concrete on the citadel.

thats not true... thats impossible!!!... you cant be my fath... oh.. Wait concrete? nvm maybe they like to keep concrete around for weight lfiting?