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[SS2Dante]

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KneeTheCap wrote...

Okay, brace yourselves for the stupidest question of them all..

How can I open .bik files? There are videos in the game folder with nice names, and I would like to investigate them.

For instance:
Shepard_alive_fem.bik
end_londonbluegood.bik
end_londonbluebad.bik
bunch of vids named "flashback"

and so on...

http://www.radgameto...com/bnkdown.htm

Download and install the rad tools.

After that you can double click to open them.

You can't fault them for labelling, at least Nice and clear names.

But they get mad if we call them red, blue, and green endings.

That's because we leave out London! Just like The Lego company hates it when we call the Legos.

It's so silly the way they name them too because Blue Bad is the same as blue good but the soldiers on the gound don't raise their arms in victory.

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KneeTheCap wrote...

Okay, brace yourselves for the stupidest question of them all..

How can I open .bik files? There are videos in the game folder with nice names, and I would like to investigate them.

For instance:
Shepard_alive_fem.bik
end_londonbluegood.bik
end_londonbluebad.bik
bunch of vids named "flashback"

and so on...

http://www.radgameto...com/bnkdown.htm

Download and install the rad tools.

After that you can double click to open them.

You can't fault them for labelling, at least Nice and clear names.

But they get mad if we call them red, blue, and green endings.

That's because we leave out London! Just like The Lego company hates it when we call the Legos.

It's so silly the way they name them too because Blue Bad is the same as blue good but the soldiers on the gound don't raise their arms in victory.

I'd love to know why they dont raise their arms in victory.

Are they like 'Oh, Shepard hasnt played enough multiplayer. No cheering for her today!'?

[SirLugash]

MaximizedAction wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

I just realised that the Reaper on Rannoch said that ALL organic civilisations must be harvested to bring order to the chaos, whereas Godchild states that they only harvest the advanced civilisations.
Nothing big, probably just a little inaccuracy.

That's a very good point against casper. He is indeed not telling the truth, other examples:
- Shepard will die if she chose 'Destroy'. Contradicted by Shep's breathing scene
- Synthetics will always rebell against organics. Contradicted if you saved both Quarians and Geth.

Speaking of which... The Reapers had creators too, right ?
Did they also rebel against their creators ?
Who is Godchild then when he's controlling the Reapers ?

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

KneeTheCap wrote...

Okay, brace yourselves for the stupidest question of them all..

How can I open .bik files? There are videos in the game folder with nice names, and I would like to investigate them.

For instance:
Shepard_alive_fem.bik
end_londonbluegood.bik
end_londonbluebad.bik
bunch of vids named "flashback"

and so on...

http://www.radgameto...com/bnkdown.htm

Download and install the rad tools.

After that you can double click to open them.

You can't fault them for labelling, at least Nice and clear names.

But they get mad if we call them red, blue, and green endings.

That's because we leave out London! Just like The Lego company hates it when we call the Legos.

It's so silly the way they name them too because Blue Bad is the same as blue good but the soldiers on the gound don't raise their arms in victory.

I'd love to know why they dont raise their arms in victory.

Are they like 'Oh, Shepard hasnt played enough multiplayer. No cheering for her today!'?

Exactly. Makes no sense.

[EpyonX3]

SS2Dante wrote...

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

I don't think it's a car. I think it's the tube that holds all of the cable together around the destroy option. Not 100% though.

[MaximizedAction]

SirLugash wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

I just realised that the Reaper on Rannoch said that ALL organic civilisations must be harvested to bring order to the chaos, whereas Godchild states that they only harvest the advanced civilisations.
Nothing big, probably just a little inaccuracy.

That's a very good point against casper. He is indeed not telling the truth, other examples:
- Shepard will die if she chose 'Destroy'. Contradicted by Shep's breathing scene
- Synthetics will always rebell against organics. Contradicted if you saved both Quarians and Geth.

Speaking of which... The Reapers had creators too, right ?
Did they also rebel against their creators ?
Who is Godchild then when he's controlling the Reapers ?

Same questions I was wondering about just today. More quesitons:
Who created the Crucible if every cycle tried to build it and eventually failed. Is it then Reaper technology, too? What does this imply for the device and it's actual usefulness? And so on...

There is a thread on BSN suggesting that Hackett may have been indoctrinated himself into blindly building the Crucible into the Reaper's hands. After all, the construction did go conviniently without a problem, didn't it?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 16 avril 2012 - 08:24 .

[spotlessvoid]

Storm258 wrote...

My problem is, that I really want to believe the IT. It explains all these plotholes perfectly and the arguments for it are very very good, but only if you stay inside the Mass Effect universe. What about the real world? Now there are these Twitters and stuff which pretty much indicate that the IT is right, or at least something similar is going to come.
Like for example: "Mike Gamble already said on his twitter, if the fans knew what was in store, the reaction would be different." But the question is I got here: Why don't they tell us?! Why don't they say anything clear? BioWare has already lost quite a few customers and fans with it, and with some people actually giviing their games back and get their money back cause of the ending, they loose even more money. So why would they wait so long and don't talk? Something tells me that they are just desperate and don't really want to admit that they messed up. :/

[Chaosbrain]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Chaosbrain wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

%20http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3otflu/%20

LMAO!

is it just a link? or is it an image? I can't tell

Well at first i was able to copy and paste it in a new tab to see the picture... But that doesn't work right now o_O
Just edit and post the pic to make sure everyone is able to see it, it was really funny..

[spotlessvoid]

Storm258 wrote...

My problem is, that I really want to believe the IT. It explains all these plotholes perfectly and the arguments for it are very very good, but only if you stay inside the Mass Effect universe. What about the real world? Now there are these Twitters and stuff which pretty much indicate that the IT is right, or at least something similar is going to come.
Like for example: "Mike Gamble already said on his twitter, if the fans knew what was in store, the reaction would be different." But the question is I got here: Why don't they tell us?! Why don't they say anything clear? BioWare has already lost quite a few customers and fans with it, and with some people actually giviing their games back and get their money back cause of the ending, they loose even more money. So why would they wait so long and don't talk? Something tells me that they are just desperate and don't really want to admit that they messed up. :/

I wonder how much actual money EA is losing. And if they pull IT off, people will flock back. Mostly

[SS2Dante]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Storm258 wrote...

My problem is, that I really want to believe the IT. It explains all these plotholes perfectly and the arguments for it are very very good, but only if you stay inside the Mass Effect universe. What about the real world? Now there are these Twitters and stuff which pretty much indicate that the IT is right, or at least something similar is going to come.
Like for example: "Mike Gamble already said on his twitter, if the fans knew what was in store, the reaction would be different." But the question is I got here: Why don't they tell us?! Why don't they say anything clear? BioWare has already lost quite a few customers and fans with it, and with some people actually giviing their games back and get their money back cause of the ending, they loose even more money. So why would they wait so long and don't talk? Something tells me that they are just desperate and don't really want to admit that they messed up. :/

A lot of people think like this, but I've always had the opposite thought process. Can you imagine what would have happened if Bioware stated that the retail release of Mass Effect DIDN'T have the ending? Just imagine the outcry, the screaming about EA, and the boycotts that would follow. People were FURIOUS with the ending of 3, so telling them that it wasn't real after it was released would have had a similar effect. The truth is, too many people are/were too angry to be ok with Biowares trick. They'd call bull**** and stay angry.

But look whats happened in the past few weeks. People are cooling down. They're actively ASKING Bioware to tell them that they bought an incomplete product. All it needs is a little more time and people won't be angry any more, they'll be relieved to get the Extended Cut. If IT is true, they'll get the joke and call Bioware heroes (or at least the press will), who did something clever with the medium. It'll generate new hype and they'll see sales rise again.

...is what I see happening

EDIT: spelling

Modifié par SS2Dante, 16 avril 2012 - 08:34 .

[McGrzegorz]

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

I don't think it's a car. I think it's the tube that holds all of the cable together around the destroy option. Not 100% though.

Hmm, I used some "Photoshop Magic" and well... it's hard to say... for sure it's not debris... looks like hmm well "technology" piece...

EDIT: spelling

Modifié par McGrzegorz, 16 avril 2012 - 08:27 .

[MaximizedAction]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Storm258 wrote...

My problem is, that I really want to believe the IT. It explains all these plotholes perfectly and the arguments for it are very very good, but only if you stay inside the Mass Effect universe. What about the real world? Now there are these Twitters and stuff which pretty much indicate that the IT is right, or at least something similar is going to come.
Like for example: "Mike Gamble already said on his twitter, if the fans knew what was in store, the reaction would be different." But the question is I got here: Why don't they tell us?! Why don't they say anything clear? BioWare has already lost quite a few customers and fans with it, and with some people actually giviing their games back and get their money back cause of the ending, they loose even more money. So why would they wait so long and don't talk? Something tells me that they are just desperate and don't really want to admit that they messed up. :/

I wonder how much actual money EA is losing. And if they pull IT off, people will flock back. Mostly

Maybe that's why they boosted the completion of the EC and reprioritized DLC development.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...



There is a faction who thinks they can control the reapers in just about every cycle (or at least the previous cycle) That is not an accident, TIM started thinking he could control the reapers back in the First Contact war, that "idea" was all the influence the reapers needed on TIM.

They attacked Cerberus because
A. TIM was getting to close to controlling husks,
B. When TIM found the plans for the crucible and warned the reapers, Cerberus was no longer useful.

But instead of killing TIM, they tightened the grip of indoc in order to further influence Shepard, or he might already be dead.

I think the reapers exploit people's greed for power in order to get them indoctrinated. TIM seems to be a just as strong as Shepard is. The problem is that TIM wants power. That greed opened the door.

A) They must have known about TIM's inentions from the beginning since they seem to be able to read minds. It doesn't make much sense that they'll let him get that close.

I agree. But they wouldn't kill him off just like that. I'm pretty sure they hang on to indcotrinated people as long as their bodies hold out.

[SS2Dante]

McGrzegorz wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

I don't think it's a car. I think it's the tube that holds all of the cable together around the destroy option. Not 100% though.

Hmm, I used some "Photoshop Magic" and well... it's hard to say... for sur it's not debris... looks like hmm well "technology" piece...

Yeah, I agree. This is the only bit of evidence that made me even CONSIDER Shepard on the citadel, or the theory that the hallucination begins when your ship crashes (it looks a bit like a shuttle?). Maybe it's a MAKO? Or is it too rounded?

Also, I'd swear (with the brightness up) that the thing behind it is an upturned MAKO. Don't suppose you can use your photoshop skills to check?

[McGrzegorz]

SS2Dante wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

I don't think it's a car. I think it's the tube that holds all of the cable together around the destroy option. Not 100% though.

Hmm, I used some "Photoshop Magic" and well... it's hard to say... for sur it's not debris... looks like hmm well "technology" piece...

Yeah, I agree. This is the only bit of evidence that made me even CONSIDER Shepard on the citadel, or the theory that the hallucination begins when your ship crashes (it looks a bit like a shuttle?). Maybe it's a MAKO? Or is it too rounded?

Also, I'd swear (with the brightness up) that the thing behind it is an upturned MAKO. Don't suppose you can use your photoshop skills to check?

If you can provide me with a screenshot better than Youtube then we can do some investigation

[n00bsauce2010]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...



There is a faction who thinks they can control the reapers in just about every cycle (or at least the previous cycle) That is not an accident, TIM started thinking he could control the reapers back in the First Contact war, that "idea" was all the influence the reapers needed on TIM.

They attacked Cerberus because
A. TIM was getting to close to controlling husks,
B. When TIM found the plans for the crucible and warned the reapers, Cerberus was no longer useful.

But instead of killing TIM, they tightened the grip of indoc in order to further influence Shepard, or he might already be dead.

I think the reapers exploit people's greed for power in order to get them indoctrinated. TIM seems to be a just as strong as Shepard is. The problem is that TIM wants power. That greed opened the door.

A) They must have known about TIM's inentions from the beginning since they seem to be able to read minds. It doesn't make much sense that they'll let him get that close.

I agree. But they wouldn't kill him off just like that. I'm pretty sure they hang on to indcotrinated people as long as their bodies hold out.

I disagree.. TIM in no way has anywhere near the willpower that shep does.

[SS2Dante]

McGrzegorz wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

I don't think it's a car. I think it's the tube that holds all of the cable together around the destroy option. Not 100% though.

Hmm, I used some "Photoshop Magic" and well... it's hard to say... for sur it's not debris... looks like hmm well "technology" piece...

Yeah, I agree. This is the only bit of evidence that made me even CONSIDER Shepard on the citadel, or the theory that the hallucination begins when your ship crashes (it looks a bit like a shuttle?). Maybe it's a MAKO? Or is it too rounded?

Also, I'd swear (with the brightness up) that the thing behind it is an upturned MAKO. Don't suppose you can use your photoshop skills to check?

If you can provide me with a screenshot better than Youtube then we can do some investigation

Unfortunately I can't. The clip I saw with the brightness up was some guy on youtube analysing it to say that it was the Citadels rubble, but i can't find it now :@

I am however checking videos to see if anything near the beam looks like the object.

EDIT: SON OF A...I forgot to get to the run at the beam I'd have to go through the whole of London, since nothing after the shot can be trusted (anyone else notice that a downed ship transforms into...a vertical piece of...floor? after the beam hits you?)

Modifié par SS2Dante, 16 avril 2012 - 08:41 .

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...


A) They must have known about TIM's inentions from the beginning since they seem to be able to read minds. It doesn't make much sense that they'll let him get that close.

If they knew, then they indeed "let" him get close. It's not like they couldn't find his base if they're already mentally linked.

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


A) They must have known about TIM's inentions from the beginning since they seem to be able to read minds. It doesn't make much sense that they'll let him get that close.

If they knew, then they indeed "let" him get close. It's not like they couldn't find his base if they're already mentally linked.

They left the entire system his base was in alone, so they probly knew where it was.

[KellanC]

I don't know if this was pointed out but I noticed 2 things when I finished up my Insanity playthrough the other day.

1) The Godchild says he controls the reapers and they were his way to stop chaos yet when he talks about the choices he says things like "us" and "we", you can control "us", why wouldn't he say "them" or "the reapers". It just made me feel like I was being tricked and was talking to Harbinger or something.

2) After the godchild talk when you're on the walkway to pick your decision if you spin around earth doesn't look right. You see it curve down in front of you but if you spin around the room it curves up, almost straightens out but then curves back down, so when you spin it is like a wave. It just didn't look right at all to me, I was expecting it to curve up and then behind me be empty space.

[EpyonX3]

MaximizedAction wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

I just realised that the Reaper on Rannoch said that ALL organic civilisations must be harvested to bring order to the chaos, whereas Godchild states that they only harvest the advanced civilisations.
Nothing big, probably just a little inaccuracy.

That's a very good point against casper. He is indeed not telling the truth, other examples:
- Shepard will die if she chose 'Destroy'. Contradicted by Shep's breathing scene
- Synthetics will always rebell against organics. Contradicted if you saved both Quarians and Geth.

Speaking of which... The Reapers had creators too, right ?
Did they also rebel against their creators ?
Who is Godchild then when he's controlling the Reapers ?

Same questions I was wondering about just today. More quesitons:
Who created the Crucible if every cycle tried to build it and eventually failed. Is it then Reaper technology, too? What does this imply for the device and it's actual usefulness? And so on...

There is a thread on BSN suggesting that Hackett may have been indoctrinated himself into blindly building the Crucible into the Reaper's hands. After all, the construction did go conviniently without a problem, didn't it?

I could believe that Hackett is indoctrinated.

He somehow survives the initial attack but mysteriously is incapable of warning anyone that they pushed through.

But then again, if the reapers wanted the crucible docked to the citadel then they should have had the arms open when the fleet arrived.

[SS2Dante]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...



There is a faction who thinks they can control the reapers in just about every cycle (or at least the previous cycle) That is not an accident, TIM started thinking he could control the reapers back in the First Contact war, that "idea" was all the influence the reapers needed on TIM.

They attacked Cerberus because
A. TIM was getting to close to controlling husks,
B. When TIM found the plans for the crucible and warned the reapers, Cerberus was no longer useful.

But instead of killing TIM, they tightened the grip of indoc in order to further influence Shepard, or he might already be dead.

I think the reapers exploit people's greed for power in order to get them indoctrinated. TIM seems to be a just as strong as Shepard is. The problem is that TIM wants power. That greed opened the door.

A) They must have known about TIM's inentions from the beginning since they seem to be able to read minds. It doesn't make much sense that they'll let him get that close.

I agree. But they wouldn't kill him off just like that. I'm pretty sure they hang on to indcotrinated people as long as their bodies hold out.

I disagree.. TIM in no way has anywhere near the willpower that shep does.

Different kind of willpower

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

I just realised that the Reaper on Rannoch said that ALL organic civilisations must be harvested to bring order to the chaos, whereas Godchild states that they only harvest the advanced civilisations.
Nothing big, probably just a little inaccuracy.

That's a very good point against casper. He is indeed not telling the truth, other examples:
- Shepard will die if she chose 'Destroy'. Contradicted by Shep's breathing scene
- Synthetics will always rebell against organics. Contradicted if you saved both Quarians and Geth.

Speaking of which... The Reapers had creators too, right ?
Did they also rebel against their creators ?
Who is Godchild then when he's controlling the Reapers ?

Same questions I was wondering about just today. More quesitons:
Who created the Crucible if every cycle tried to build it and eventually failed. Is it then Reaper technology, too? What does this imply for the device and it's actual usefulness? And so on...

There is a thread on BSN suggesting that Hackett may have been indoctrinated himself into blindly building the Crucible into the Reaper's hands. After all, the construction did go conviniently without a problem, didn't it?

I could believe that Hackett is indoctrinated.

He somehow survives the initial attack but mysteriously is incapable of warning anyone that they pushed through.

But then again, if the reapers wanted the crucible docked to the citadel then they should have had the arms open when the fleet arrived.

If they had Hackett though they could simply have destroyed the Crucible plans and be done with it. Plus he's never (as far as I'm aware) been around any Reaper tech for any amount of time.

[EpyonX3]

SS2Dante wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

McGrzegorz wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

What I wanna know is what the object is in the red ending's extra scene. The camera pans passed it, It's smooth and has two symmetrical sides. If I didn't know better I'd say it was a car

http://www.youtube.c...KCdM9jvo#t=483s

(dead centre at 8.03)

I don't think it's a car. I think it's the tube that holds all of the cable together around the destroy option. Not 100% though.

Hmm, I used some "Photoshop Magic" and well... it's hard to say... for sur it's not debris... looks like hmm well "technology" piece...

Yeah, I agree. This is the only bit of evidence that made me even CONSIDER Shepard on the citadel, or the theory that the hallucination begins when your ship crashes (it looks a bit like a shuttle?). Maybe it's a MAKO? Or is it too rounded?

Also, I'd swear (with the brightness up) that the thing behind it is an upturned MAKO. Don't suppose you can use your photoshop skills to check?

If you can provide me with a screenshot better than Youtube then we can do some investigation

Unfortunately I can't. The clip I saw with the brightness up was some guy on youtube analysing it to say that it was the Citadels rubble, but i can't find it now :@

I am however checking videos to see if anything near the beam looks like the object.

EDIT: SON OF A...I forgot to get to the run at the beam I'd have to go through the whole of London, since nothing after the shot can be trusted (anyone else notice that a downed ship transforms into...a vertical piece of...floor? after the beam hits you?)

It may have been my video. This is the revised version