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[Drift Avalii]

I guess if it was the citadel explosion that had left Shepard in the rubble (which I'm inclined to disagree with), then the section with tubing in the background should have been just as pulverised as the foreground materials surrounding Shepard. A very basic point I know and lacking finesse, but I personally wouldn't have thought that such a large section would survive.

That said, if the citadel explosion itself was part of Shepard making sense of defeating the indoctrination, like yhe galaxy map has been suggested to be, then maybe the only explosion that buried her was the one caused by blowing up the conduit. In that case it might be feasible.

Just throwing ideas around really. I personally think Shep is on Earth, as there are so many irregularities from the Shuttle crash onwards.

[llbountyhunter]

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

To throw in my two cents, just looked at the video with the mysterious object and it looks like it has white racing stripes across it, almost? Don't some Alliance vehicles have that? Might just be my 'too much wine' eyes, but there we go. Whole thing's too curved to be a conventional shuttle though.

Yeah, I know, the lines do look like a stripe/pattern or something, but yeah too curved. The damn thing seems to be actively trying to avoid classification

I always thought they looked like a reaper leg.... (you can kinda see similarities in it and the reaper on ranoch)

Ideas? Maybe its harbinger and IT was a final boss battle with harbinger and choosing destroy kills him in real life? (My personal theory)

Harbinger is huge. He's bigger than sovereign. I doubt it was his leg. If it was a reaper leg I'd say it was one of the smaller ones like the one you blow up just before getting to the beam.

Maybe one of his smaller plates? Like his toe? Lol jk. But I do think it a bit of a "reaper" look to it

[SS2Dante]

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

To throw in my two cents, just looked at the video with the mysterious object and it looks like it has white racing stripes across it, almost? Don't some Alliance vehicles have that? Might just be my 'too much wine' eyes, but there we go. Whole thing's too curved to be a conventional shuttle though.

Yeah, I know, the lines do look like a stripe/pattern or something, but yeah too curved. The damn thing seems to be actively trying to avoid classification

I always thought they looked like a reaper leg.... (you can kinda see similarities in it and the reaper on ranoch)

Ideas? Maybe its harbinger and IT was a final boss battle with harbinger and choosing destroy kills him in real life? (My personal theory)

Do not know. Though I doubt resiting indoctrination could harm a reaper. It's possible that Harbinger is still just standing there, fighting hammer. Arg.

[Drift Avalii]

Also, the piles of bodies near the beam which are actually made up from bits of Kaiden, Ashley and Jenkins creep me the f*ck out. I thought live people were needed to harvest to make a reaper anyway, hence the stasis fields created by the Collectors' bugs. If that is the case then dead'uns just wouldn't do the trick and Shepard's supposition on the crucible is wrong.

[Rifneno]

Re: damage from Shepard's re-entry at the beginning of ME2.

You guys are forgetting an important part of this I believe. Every planet doesn't have the same atmosphere. Alchera's atmopshere might not be nearly as hellish for re-entry as Earth's is. There's a bit of data about Alchera in the game but honestly I don't remember what determines how damaging atmospheric re-entry is on a specific planet. I vaguely recall that Earth's is particularly bad for roughly the same reasons that it can support life (which Alchera shows no signs of), but I don't trust memories that foggy.

EpyonX3 wrote...

I would imagine getting edi to come out would require a huge amount of EMS. Seems the more EMS you have the least amount of damage the red space magic does.

Hmm. I'll have to watch next time then. I've got some pretty retarded EMS because I liked MP a lot more than I thought I would. But I never actually watch the ending, I just shoot the tube and go make a sandwich or something.

MaximizedAction wrote...

Hey, check out this tweet from Jessica:

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/191951378187436034

He did not write "mind games"

More hope to read into in these dark days of doubt, huh?

... God, I still can't get over the quality of that Ashley costume she has as a background. That's one of the best cosplays I've ever seen.

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've tried to get EDI to walk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

I talked to him a lot too, but only because I kept trying to find the option to say "Look bug, when we need advice on how to lose to the Reapers you'll be the first one I call. Until then, quit trolling and shut up."

Never found it.

Spartas Husky wrote...

Is kaidan any good ?... he kind a blended into the background in ME1 for me. Thinking of letting ashley die finally... even though I'm a sexist by women's account coz I can't let that woman die...

Kaiden is the most boring person that ever existed. Only talk to him if you have insomnia and need something stronger than Ambien. But he has reave, which is easily one of the best skills in the game. So if you mean good combat wise, yes. Reave is awesome and he's another helpful addition for creating biotic explosions. Is he good character wise? He's the prototype for Diana Allers.

Ashley OTOH isn't very useful IMO. Marksman is a great skill for Shepard but I seriously doubt squadmates benefit much from that kind of buff. And while I have nothing but distaste for both VS'es, I find Ashley a bigger douche over ME2. When you're getting the Horizon assignment and she comments "I was stationed the Iera system and you were the only Cerberus presence there." I wanted FemShep to deck her.

ConVito wrote...

Love to see the anti-IT'ers explain that if it turns out to be true.

They'll find a way to blame it on lazy writing, naturally.

When we found that the model for the control panel at the end was named "End_Choice_BadA_01" in the pcc files, someone said we're grasped at straws and that file names don't mean anything. I lol'd.

Turran wrote...

Guys, just saying, didn't a writer/voice actor or someone at Bioware over a tweet, basically say "When Shepard wakes up he is on the Citadel"

..Which sort of de-bunks the entire theory. Be nice to hear back.

Someone should make one of those stupid flashing banners. You know, those "Congratulations, you're the one millionth visitor to this site!" banners for idiots to click on and give their SS # to spammers? Except have it say "Congratulations, you're the one millionth person to think a meaningless comment completely debunked IT!"

[EpyonX3]

llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

To throw in my two cents, just looked at the video with the mysterious object and it looks like it has white racing stripes across it, almost? Don't some Alliance vehicles have that? Might just be my 'too much wine' eyes, but there we go. Whole thing's too curved to be a conventional shuttle though.

Yeah, I know, the lines do look like a stripe/pattern or something, but yeah too curved. The damn thing seems to be actively trying to avoid classification

I always thought they looked like a reaper leg.... (you can kinda see similarities in it and the reaper on ranoch)

Ideas? Maybe its harbinger and IT was a final boss battle with harbinger and choosing destroy kills him in real life? (My personal theory)

Harbinger is huge. He's bigger than sovereign. I doubt it was his leg. If it was a reaper leg I'd say it was one of the smaller ones like the one you blow up just before getting to the beam.

Maybe one of his smaller plates? Like his toe? Lol jk. But I do think it a bit of a "reaper" look to it

It's definelty a tough one. This one peice could settle the debate once and for all.

P.S. I saw a video depicting Mass Effect as a Saturday morning cartoon. Could you imagine seeing harbinger flee to his dark space hide out after loosing his toe in battle, sitting on his dark space throne saying,"This hurts me, I will get revenge Shepard!"

[Kyzee]

 *whew* Okay, I've got no idea what's going on because I've been getting ready to go out of the country for a week & a half . . . at which point I'll be completely in the dark. Oh, the fun it'll be getting caught up. 

In any event, I just wanted to pop in here to say how awesome it's been chatting with you guys, even with the occasional bouts of madness that hit this forum. I will deputize anyone brave enough to take up my self-issued mantle of trying to keep things calm and civil in my absence.

Or, you know, lex0r11 could just post Liara repeatedly. Whatever works. 

Take care, everyone! 

Modifié par Kyzee, 16 avril 2012 - 10:52 .

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

To throw in my two cents, just looked at the video with the mysterious object and it looks like it has white racing stripes across it, almost? Don't some Alliance vehicles have that? Might just be my 'too much wine' eyes, but there we go. Whole thing's too curved to be a conventional shuttle though.

Yeah, I know, the lines do look like a stripe/pattern or something, but yeah too curved. The damn thing seems to be actively trying to avoid classification

That's what lead me to believe it was the tubing since the tubing has similar stripes.

I can see that, but I think the tubing is the wrong shape. This thing definitely has a front, from what I can see.

My thoughts were that it changed shape because the cables it was holding ripped appart, making it sag and look like it's flatter than it usually is. Again, I'm guessing at it.

We're all guessing, so *shrug*

[SS2Dante]

Drift Avalii wrote...

Also, the piles of bodies near the beam which are actually made up from bits of Kaiden, Ashley and Jenkins creep me the f*ck out. I thought live people were needed to harvest to make a reaper anyway, hence the stasis fields created by the Collectors' bugs. If that is the case then dead'uns just wouldn't do the trick and Shepard's supposition on the crucible is wrong.

it was the bodies in the citadel that weirded me out. they're all....blank. Like, weirdly blank. They look like dolls.

[lex0r11]

Kyzee wrote...

 *whew* Okay, I've got no idea what's going on because I've been getting ready to go out of the country for a week & a half . . . at which point I'll be completely in the dark. Oh, the fun it'll be getting caught up. 

In any event, I just wanted to pop in here to say how awesome it'll been chatting with you guys, even with the occasional bouts of madness that hit this forum. I will deputize anyone brave enough to take up my self-issued mantle of trying to keep things calm and civil in my absence.

Or, you know, lex0r11 could just post Liara repeatedly. Whatever works. 

Take care, everyone! 

You guys stay civil while Blue Baby is here.

Modifié par lex0r11, 16 avril 2012 - 10:26 .

[Drift Avalii]

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

Also, the piles of bodies near the beam which are actually made up from bits of Kaiden, Ashley and Jenkins creep me the f*ck out. I thought live people were needed to harvest to make a reaper anyway, hence the stasis fields created by the Collectors' bugs. If that is the case then dead'uns just wouldn't do the trick and Shepard's supposition on the crucible is wrong.

it was the bodies in the citadel that weirded me out. they're all....blank. Like, weirdly blank. They look like dolls.

i personally feel that gives more support to IT. In that Shepard's mind is being weighed down by the many lives lost in the course of the series, and that guilt or attention manifests through the hallucination as the floor of her dream being littered with all those lost. There certainly weren't any blood waterfalls on the Collector base when they were making a reaper. 

EDIT: That I saw, anyway...

Modifié par Drift Avalii, 16 avril 2012 - 10:31 .

[Hawk227]

Rifneno wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've tried to get EDI to walk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

I talked to him a lot too, but only because I kept trying to find the option to say "Look bug, when we need advice on how to lose to the Reapers you'll be the first one I call. Until then, quit trolling and shut up."

Never found it.

I always got my LI and one of the London squadmates. So I would think (haven't tried it) that if you brought EDI and your LI, they would both come out.

As for ME2 reentry Alchera's atmosphere is 17% less than Earth's and gravity is 15% less than earth. It would definitely be less severe than reentry on earth. Shepard's initial velocity is ~zero, as opposed to an asteroid going thousands of mph. Upon impact he'd be going fast enough to kill him and turn him to "meat and bones" like Jacob says in Lazarus project. But Liquefy... I don't think so. Wish I was better at physics though.

Modifié par Hawk227, 16 avril 2012 - 10:33 .

[SS2Dante]

By the way EpyonX3, in this video when you point out that their is a tree far off to the right (if you're facing the beam) you're correct, I checked too. But all the other shrubs that form a path to the beam, and the tree that's right behind you, are missing. I don't have the level editor so can't check in case they just hadn't loaded, but they're definitely there in the game after the beam.

Your video
http://www.youtube.c...ZCGSQip90#t=26s

And here
http://www.youtube.c...PZDVTxuc#t=176s

[llbountyhunter]

SS2Dante wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

To throw in my two cents, just looked at the video with the mysterious object and it looks like it has white racing stripes across it, almost? Don't some Alliance vehicles have that? Might just be my 'too much wine' eyes, but there we go. Whole thing's too curved to be a conventional shuttle though.

Yeah, I know, the lines do look like a stripe/pattern or something, but yeah too curved. The damn thing seems to be actively trying to avoid classification

I always thought they looked like a reaper leg.... (you can kinda see similarities in it and the reaper on ranoch)

Ideas? Maybe its harbinger and IT was a final boss battle with harbinger and choosing destroy kills him in real life? (My personal theory)

Do not know. Though I doubt resiting indoctrination could harm a reaper. It's possible that Harbinger is still just standing there, fighting hammer. Arg.

Killing saren disabled sovereign in me1. Could be similar. Also it been said the the exact same thing won't work because the reapers fixed that error, but this time its different a more direct link. Your not killing a reapers pawn, this time your mentally overcoming the reaper itself ....

I sound crazy don't I?

[KneeTheCap]

One more question, since this is bugging me a lot. The end kid's voice. I know it's a mix of the kid and both shep's with an echo, but at times it's like there is one, more deeper voice... I'm probably hearing things, but I love this kind of stuff. You know, like the series LOST where there was those whispers? I loved to analyze them, even though it was totally pointless

But yeah, has anyone been able to break down the kids audio at the end?


Edit. Them typos 

Modifié par KneeTheCap, 16 avril 2012 - 10:39 .

[llbountyhunter]

Hawk227 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've tried to get EDI to walk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

I talked to him a lot too, but only because I kept trying to find the option to say "Look bug, when we need advice on how to lose to the Reapers you'll be the first one I call. Until then, quit trolling and shut up."

Never found it.

I always got my LI and one of the London squadmates. So I would think (haven't tried it) that if you brought EDI and your LI, they would both come out.

As for ME2 reentry Alchera's atmosphere is 17% less than Earth's and gravity is 15% less than earth. It would definitely be less severe than reentry on earth. Shepard's initial velocity is ~zero, as opposed to an asteroid going thousands of mph. Upon impact he'd be going fast enough to kill him and turn him to "meat and bones" like Jacob says in Lazarus project. But Liquefy... I don't think so. Wish I was better at physics though.

Did Shepard really crash on that planet? I know some said it you can see him begin to are-enter. But after looking again it looks more like a sunlight thing or something because he was so far way....

[SS2Dante]

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Drift Avalii wrote...

To throw in my two cents, just looked at the video with the mysterious object and it looks like it has white racing stripes across it, almost? Don't some Alliance vehicles have that? Might just be my 'too much wine' eyes, but there we go. Whole thing's too curved to be a conventional shuttle though.

Yeah, I know, the lines do look like a stripe/pattern or something, but yeah too curved. The damn thing seems to be actively trying to avoid classification

I always thought they looked like a reaper leg.... (you can kinda see similarities in it and the reaper on ranoch)

Ideas? Maybe its harbinger and IT was a final boss battle with harbinger and choosing destroy kills him in real life? (My personal theory)

Do not know. Though I doubt resiting indoctrination could harm a reaper. It's possible that Harbinger is still just standing there, fighting hammer. Arg.

Killing saren disabled sovereign in me1. Could be similar. Also it been said the the exact same thing won't work because the reapers fixed that error, but this time its different a more direct link. Your not killing a reapers pawn, this time your mentally overcoming the reaper itself ....

I sound crazy don't I?

Well, I forgot about that. But wasn't Sovereign actually possessing Harbinger by that point? Plus you're actually killing it, not just telling it "no"

[byne]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've tried to get EDI to walk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

I talked to him a lot too, but only because I kept trying to find the option to say "Look bug, when we need advice on how to lose to the Reapers you'll be the first one I call. Until then, quit trolling and shut up."

Never found it.

I always got my LI and one of the London squadmates. So I would think (haven't tried it) that if you brought EDI and your LI, they would both come out.

As for ME2 reentry Alchera's atmosphere is 17% less than Earth's and gravity is 15% less than earth. It would definitely be less severe than reentry on earth. Shepard's initial velocity is ~zero, as opposed to an asteroid going thousands of mph. Upon impact he'd be going fast enough to kill him and turn him to "meat and bones" like Jacob says in Lazarus project. But Liquefy... I don't think so. Wish I was better at physics though.

Did Shepard really crash on that planet? I know some said it you can see him begin to are-enter. But after looking again it looks more like a sunlight thing or something because he was so far way....

When you go back to the planet for the mission to collect dog-tags you find Shep's helmet among the Normandy wreckage, so yeah, she really did crash on the planet.

[SS2Dante]

KneeTheCap wrote...

One more question, since this is bugging me a lot. The end kid's voice. I know it's a mix of the kid and both shep's with an echo. But at times it's like there is one, more deeper voice... I'm probably hearing things, but I love this kind of stuff. You know, like the series LOST where there was those whispers? I loved to analyze them, even though it was totally pointless

But yeah, has anyone been able to break down to kids audio at the end?

Someone else brought this up not long ago. A few agreed, a few couldn't hear it. Juries out until someone can crack open the audio files and see

[Drift Avalii]

The video used to show the beginning of the Lazarus project appears to show charred, cracked flesh. Though on sanctuary the main points regarding Sheps condition were that she had been oxygen-deprived and spent too long clinically brain-dead to be any use.

Maybe they were just confident they could fix the 'charcoal' look.

[SS2Dante]

So no-one else has heard that weird whistling in the Crucible or can tell me what it is? Damn

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...


But wasn't Sovereign actually possessing Harbinger by that point?

.... Wut?

[Hawk227]

byne wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I've tried to get EDI to walk out of the Normandy, but I ALWAYS get Ashley (my LI) and Javik.

I'm inclined to believe that it's always your LI and I'm not really sure the criteria for the second person. I did talk to Javik quite a bit though, but I talked to EVERYONE as much as I could.

I talked to him a lot too, but only because I kept trying to find the option to say "Look bug, when we need advice on how to lose to the Reapers you'll be the first one I call. Until then, quit trolling and shut up."

Never found it.

I always got my LI and one of the London squadmates. So I would think (haven't tried it) that if you brought EDI and your LI, they would both come out.

As for ME2 reentry Alchera's atmosphere is 17% less than Earth's and gravity is 15% less than earth. It would definitely be less severe than reentry on earth. Shepard's initial velocity is ~zero, as opposed to an asteroid going thousands of mph. Upon impact he'd be going fast enough to kill him and turn him to "meat and bones" like Jacob says in Lazarus project. But Liquefy... I don't think so. Wish I was better at physics though.

Did Shepard really crash on that planet? I know some said it you can see him begin to are-enter. But after looking again it looks more like a sunlight thing or something because he was so far way....

When you go back to the planet for the mission to collect dog-tags you find Shep's helmet among the Normandy wreckage, so yeah, she really did crash on the planet.

But his helmet supposedly kept his head/brain intact. Did they just pluck it off as soon as they found him there? Its certainly possible. I always saw it as a continuity fail. An excuse to get a cool knick knack for your room.

[NS Wizdum]

lex0r11 wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

 *whew* Okay, I've got no idea what's going on because I've been getting ready to go out of the country for a week & a half . . . at which point I'll be completely in the dark. Oh, the fun it'll be getting caught up. 

In any event, I just wanted to pop in here to say how awesome it'll been chatting with you guys, even with the occasional bouts of madness that hit this forum. I will deputize anyone brave enough to take up my self-issued mantle of trying to keep things calm and civil in my absence.

Or, you know, lex0r11 could just post Liara repeatedly. Whatever works. 

Take care, everyone! 

You guys stay civil while Blue Baby is here.

Do you just have an endless supply of these that you can deploy when summoned?

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


But wasn't Sovereign actually possessing Harbinger by that point?

.... Wut?

Wooooops. Meant Saren Won't even edit, I like how stupid it sounds. Either that or some Reaper civil war going on