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[n00bsauce2010]

If you look at the mini cables being held together by the metal bands (inside the red).. why don't we see these in the breath scene? You'd think they'd be easily seen especially with those textures at such high res.

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The problem I have with it is that the "cables" are sticking straight up.. when everywhere else they're curved.. or bent. Rebar IMO is the only thing that would be sticking straight up. And the closeup of the cables inside the citadel compared to the breath scene don't really match.

That's because the cables are wrapped above you and lead into the destroy option. It's not far fetched that they'd be above you.

Lets assume that you're right and that those are indeed the cables from the destroy area.

Where did all that concrete come from? There was no concrete anywhere nearby.

This boils down to wether you believe the blocks about the destroy option are stone like materials. If you don't then the argument it at a stand still.

This in no way means that the entire Citadel is made of stone. I'm saying that just the blocks above are.

[Arian Dynas]

bobnice31 wrote...

It's funny, My 15 year old daughter just finished the game last night before going to bed. She came downstairs full of tears and broken hearted but totally content with her ending (Synthesis). She never once heard about the IT theory, I then approached her today and asked her if anything was out of place and didnt seem right about it. She then told me she felt like at one point the thought of Indoctrination ran through her mind. I told her she might have been tricked by the Stargazer to spare the Reapers by picking the Synthesis ending, I then reminded her about how Saren was fooled by the Idea of merging Organics with Machines in ME1. I also reminded her of how the entire ME3 playthrough Shepard was arguing against controlling the Reapers (Illusive mans agenda coming from his indoctrination). I also showed her how it seemed like the Stargazer was trying to convince her NOT to pick the Destroy ending by using the Red Color and the lie that Shepard would die. After all the Reapers are trying to avoid death.

She then watched the IT video and saw how the Oily Shadows dreams were eerily similar to the description of indoctrination from the Rachni Queen in ME1. I also mentioned to her that how could the Illusive man could use his ability of control that he got from experimenting with Reaper Indoctrination on Shepard unless Shepard was in fact already Indoctrinated. After all Reapers cannot control people who arent Indoctrinated so neither should the Illusive man. She then started to put all the pieces together about the Arrival Artifact, Derelic Reaper and things. Let me tell you, this blew her mind. She is with me though, I do believe Shepard is infact indoctrinated however I  believe he made it to the Citadel and chose A,B or C, but I do believe the confrontation with Anderson and the Illusive man and Stargazer were all attemps at Indoctrination. If this is true and actually what they intended then WOW, if its not true then hats off to whoever thought of this and Bioware needs to put you on their payroll for ME4.

AUGH! WALL OF TEXT!


Nah, I kid. Welcome to you and your daughter, as for whom thought of it, the most likely candidates are... the entire team including Walters and Hudson. And.. *GASP* they're already on board for ME4!

[n00bsauce2010]

Arian Dynas wrote...


Nah, I kid. Welcome to you and your daughter, as for whom thought of it, the most likely candidates are... the entire team including Walters and Hudson. And.. *GASP* they're already on board for ME4!

They're on board for Me4? where do you get your information

[EpyonX3]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

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If you look at the mini cables being held together by the metal bands (inside the red).. why don't we see these in the breath scene? You'd think they'd be easily seen especially with those textures at such high res.

You don't see them because it's way to dark.



It's hard to make it brighter without washing the image out. But you can make out some kind of patterns in the spaces.

[EpyonX3]

Also check these images out so you guys know what I mean about the wrapping.


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http://i39.tinypic.com/15zlhzr.png

[balance5050]

Wow, I feel like such a dork studying these cables... The entire scene doesn't make sense, he could not have been on the citadel and lived.

[n00bsauce2010]

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

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If you look at the mini cables being held together by the metal bands (inside the red).. why don't we see these in the breath scene? You'd think they'd be easily seen especially with those textures at such high res.

You don't see them because it's way to dark.



It's hard to make it brighter without washing the image out. But you can make out some kind of patterns in the spaces.

Looks to me like shading. You'd think the patterns would be more definitive.

[Golferguy758]

I'd be more apt to agree with you Epyon ( Wing zero is still superior though!) if the bands didn't alternate like in the washed out picture.

If the bands were same the width and had a continuous bar across them I could see how it's a cable. if two cables were next to each other, possibly, but it would be a much thicker image than what is shown.

Look at this little image of rebar
Note how if you put two pieces side by side the bands would line up perfectly. And it is still thin enough to not completely block the shot.

[Arian Dynas]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


Nah, I kid. Welcome to you and your daughter, as for whom thought of it, the most likely candidates are... the entire team including Walters and Hudson. And.. *GASP* they're already on board for ME4!

They're on board for Me4? where do you get your information

I didn't. They do keep the same teams of writers and designers in so far as I know. It was mostly a joke.

As for Epyon, don't bother with him, He's just going to keep "enhancing" those images until he can make you see what he wants you to. There is nothing there to see.

[Golferguy758]

I'd be more apt to agree with you Epyon ( Wing zero is still superior though!) if the bands didn't alternate like in the washed out picture.

If the bands were same the width and had a continuous bar across them I could see how it's a cable. if two cables were next to each other, possibly, but it would be a much thicker image than what is shown.

Look at this little image of rebar
Note how if you put two pieces side by side the bands would line up perfectly. And it is still thin enough to not completely block the shot.

[byne]

For some reason it popped into my head that the cables/rebar sort of look like drinking straws.

Then I thought about how we were now literally grasping at said straws.

It made me laugh.

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

For some reason it popped into my head that the cables/rebar sort of look like drinking straws.

Then I thought about how we were now literally grasping at said straws.

It made me laugh.

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

didja do Legion's loyalty mission? And if so, which did ya pick?

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

I told you, I did not sneeze in the soup!

[EpyonX3]

Golferguy758 wrote...

I'd be more apt to agree with you Epyon ( Wing zero is still superior though!) if the bands didn't alternate like in the washed out picture.

If the bands were same the width and had a continuous bar across them I could see how it's a cable. if two cables were next to each other, possibly, but it would be a much thicker image than what is shown.

Look at this little image of rebar
Note how if you put two pieces side by side the bands would line up perfectly. And it is still thin enough to not completely block the shot.

OMG someone actually got what my name means! Thank You!

My screen names ahave always included both, like Zero_Epyon or zeroepyon like my youtube channel. I think the Epyon is much better, the pilot wasn't as good.

Ok back to the cables. That rebar has very tight spacing.

My point is that the cable patters match the patterns on reaper cables throughout the game.

I feel this is an agree to disagree argument.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

For some reason it popped into my head that the cables/rebar sort of look like drinking straws.

Then I thought about how we were now literally grasping at said straws.

It made me laugh.

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

didja do Legion's loyalty mission? And if so, which did ya pick?

Didnt do Legion's mission since back when I made this horrible save, I figured not dealing with the heretics at all would probly have the worst repercussions in ME3.

It didnt, but its the thought that counts.

[balance5050]

I think the rebar/cable thing is irrelevant. From Hawk:


If it's cable it has its own associations tied to it. They are NOT only found on the citadel. They are ubiquitous where there are reapers, its possible there aren't any on the route to the beam, but you weren't actually wearing those N7 tags while talking to the catalyst.

[Hawk227]

balance5050 wrote...

Wow, I feel like such a dork studying these cables... The entire scene doesn't make sense, he could not have been on the citadel and lived.

8km wide fireball! Hiroshima's fireball was 400 m wide! Why don't people get this? That other thread is making me crazy.

Also, they're totally cables. Reaper cables are symbolic of Reaper control. BW told us reapers were trying to control us.

[llbountyhunter]

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

For some reason it popped into my head that the cables/rebar sort of look like drinking straws.

Then I thought about how we were now literally grasping at said straws.

It made me laugh.

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

didja do Legion's loyalty mission? And if so, which did ya pick?

i picked both.... but im wondering.... what happens iif your hit the full reginade option?

do they both kill each other off?

[Arian Dynas]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

For some reason it popped into my head that the cables/rebar sort of look like drinking straws.

Then I thought about how we were now literally grasping at said straws.

It made me laugh.

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

didja do Legion's loyalty mission? And if so, which did ya pick?

i picked both.... but im wondering.... what happens iif your hit the full reginade option?

do they both kill each other off?

nah, you just threaten them into working together

[balance5050]

Hawk227 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Wow, I feel like such a dork studying these cables... The entire scene doesn't make sense, he could not have been on the citadel and lived.

8km wide fireball! Hiroshima's fireball was 400 m wide! Why don't people get this? That other thread is making me crazy.

Also, they're totally cables. Reaper cables are symbolic of Reaper control. BW told us reapers were trying to control us.

Oh hey dude! I just quoted you!

[byne]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

byne wrote...

For some reason it popped into my head that the cables/rebar sort of look like drinking straws.

Then I thought about how we were now literally grasping at said straws.

It made me laugh.

Also, speaking of straws, or emergency induction ports, all the quarians just died.

didja do Legion's loyalty mission? And if so, which did ya pick?

i picked both.... but im wondering.... what happens iif your hit the full reginade option?

do they both kill each other off?

You mean the renegade persuade when Legion is uploading the code?

Shepard is all 'I've helped you lots before. But I'm through helping you. If you keep firing, I will stand and watch as the geth tear you apart.' and Han'Gerrel wimps out and stops firing.

Its pretty badass. I pick that one even on my paragon character.

[Golferguy758]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

I'd be more apt to agree with you Epyon ( Wing zero is still superior though!) if the bands didn't alternate like in the washed out picture.

If the bands were same the width and had a continuous bar across them I could see how it's a cable. if two cables were next to each other, possibly, but it would be a much thicker image than what is shown.

Look at this little image of rebar
Note how if you put two pieces side by side the bands would line up perfectly. And it is still thin enough to not completely block the shot.

OMG someone actually got what my name means! Thank You!

My screen names ahave always included both, like Zero_Epyon or zeroepyon like my youtube channel. I think the Epyon is much better, the pilot wasn't as good.

Ok back to the cables. That rebar has very tight spacing.

My point is that the cable patters match the patterns on reaper cables throughout the game.

I feel this is an agree to disagree argument.

I'm surprised someone else hadn't mentioned it. I noticed the first time I saw your post, I just figured I'd comment on it this time 

Time to swing this off-topic. as it has been far to serious for the past few pages.
 I liked Wing Zero more, but then again whatever Heero was piloting inevitably became beast-mode. Also, big-freaking- double barrel laser shotgun of death.




On-topic. Most likely will be an agree to disagree. I can see it either way, but the difference I bring up is that we are guaranteed to have concrete rebar AND reaper cables on earth at least in the vicinity of where Harby's beam hits. However, if Shep was on the citadel we are only guaranteed cables, maybe concrete/concrete like material, but guaranteed no rebar in any near proximity

I just think it's more likely to be on Earth as Earth HAS all three parts, Citadel could only have two at best.

[n00bsauce2010]