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MaximizedAction wrote...

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Anybody else see an overturned Mako in the background?


Yeah, that does look like a Mako. Also, to link a pic from the first page:

Posted Image

Gee, I wonder where Shepard is? 


Ooo oo I know this! Ummm...  It's oh man, I'm so nervous. It's umm... Mars! Wait, no, Thessia!


WOW. Look at those comparison shots.....I love it. Just look how the beam on Earth and the Citadel are presented, a beam of light somewhat encircled on both sides.


This pic has awesomeness written all over it.
The beams look so conveniently similar. This reminds me of when I used the radio as an alarm clock, so when I was still asleep I always remember hearing the tune from the radio in my dreams.
For example I'd suddenly sit in a car with the carradio on playing a random song and when I woke up the same song was playing in the radio.
So I find it quite odd that there would also be a beam on the citadel where there was one right in front of him back on earth.
But I can't come up with similarities between jumping in the Synthesis beam and running into the Transport beam.


And good work, noticing the Mako siluette!


Maybe Shep's mind is trying to tell himself going into the real beam is a trap?

Because on my first playthrough, before I knew about the ending or any of this, when I found out there was one single beam that can go to the otherwise impenetrable Citadel, which the reapers know we need for the Crucible, the only thing that can kill them, that they guarded with only a single Destroyer, my first thought was:

cdn.instanttrap.com/trap.jpg

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Hey, one thing i have just noticed (probably been brought up before..ignore this, if it has).
In the dream sequence after priority tuchanka, just before your last approach to star bieber, there's this very distinct beeping sound...like a tinitus. the same sound can be heard at me3's beginning, after you have talked to the defense commity, right before the reapers land. it also stops, once the reaper touches ground. could be nothing though.

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Skillz1986 wrote...

Hey, one thing i have just noticed (probably been brought up before..ignore this, if it has).
In the dream sequence after priority tuchanka, just before your last approach to star bieber, there's this very distinct beeping sound...like a tinitus. the same sound can be heard at me3's beginning, after you have talked to the defense commity, right before the reapers land. it also stops, once the reaper touches ground. could be nothing though.


Haven't seen this one yet.
And I wouldn't neccessarily throw it away as mere coincidence and lazyness because, for instance, the sound design team also incorparated the "Vigil" soundtrack into the War Room background noise for psychological reasons, as can be found here: www.kotaku.com.au/2012/03/mass-effect-3s-musical-secret/

So the sound guys and producers might definitely know what they are doing.

This is, of course, still only interpretation. But that is the best one can do with narratives.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Ending to remain shrouded in 'speculation'?

twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/192133411362705408


“You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide some answers to these people.”
"Whether you're happy or angry at the ending, know this: it is an ending. BioWare will not do a "Lost" and leave fans with more questions than answers after finishing the game, Gamble promised."

Both from an interview with Mike Gamble.

Pick any stance you want and you can find half a dozen statements from BW employees to back it up. Here, have this industrial sized bag of salt. Take a few tablespoons with every word from Bioware.

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Gonna chime in here as I just got to try out the Kishoon Harpoon Gun and holy mole I love that sniper.

Higher damage, faster reload and lower weight (quite a bit even) than the Widow makes it a great sniper.

The dropoff is well litterally drop of...the shots arc unless you charge the weapon before shooting which if you do it with every shot makes it slower than the Widow. The charge process also breaks Tac Cloak, but if you charge and then Cloak the shot itself wont break cloak allowing you to reload, move away or use a power while still under cloak.

Also it dosent pierce cover, but I can live with that.

Once I get the arc down on those shots I should be able to place some neat and fast shots.


Well, it's not available in SP and might never be. In MP, I've heard varying reports about it if you're hosting. If you're not hosting, it's a steaming pile of varren ****.

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Vahilor wrote...

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SCJ90 wrote...

*snip*

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Probably BW should be really aware that this strategie will pretty sure backfire...
Cause
I think some people are allready gone, cause they don't wait until
summer and the guys who wait for the DLC will be even more dissapointed
if the ending still is crappy.

I wouldn't be happy if the 'Extended Cut' still leaves these questions unanswered. Which seems to be what she is saying.


No but this is a "short term" way of thinking, I dont work for BW or EA and I cant read their minds but this is the only "logical" explanation that I have at the moment,

I am sooooo worried about the "extended cut" DLC, I can just see a Dragon Age epilogue infront of me, with a pic of everyone and giving a short story of what happens next, if I see a IDT dlc I will kiss BW from top to toe and throw my money at them because they have trolled us so hard and they have saved a series, if not, then I will take my money somewhere else.

And if BW dosenst salvages this then they are doomed in my opinion


My absoulte best guess for what Bioware plans to do for DLC is one of two things. If Indoctrination Theory and all other similar theroies are wrong we can more than likely expect single player and multiplayer DLC after Extended Cut is released, the single DLC would be expending on pre-ending missions we'll more than likely see things like "Take back Omega" or "Return to Ilos" and such.

OR, if Indoctrination Theory or a similar explanation is true, after Extended Cut is released we'll see various post-ending DLC  that takes place After the "Shepard's breath" scene released alongside a multiplayer DLC release. More than likely we'll initially finish the battle for Earth, then maybe we'll get DLC like "Take back Palaven" or "Take back Thessia". I assume Palaven because I recall hearing the Bioware team having to drop Palaven from the game, would make sense to return to it for DLC in some way or another.

Either way, I speculate at least the first of these DLC (single and multi) will be free as an apolgy to their fanbase. The rest might cost the standard $5-$10 in points as they have in the past.

Or maybe Bioware will bow out after Extended Cut with a sincere apology and things of that nature. But, as I've said, we'll all just have to wait and see how things go.


Yeah possible ways.. but if the ends are still crappy (in the we take no IDT way and explain all with space Magic). Who will buy the pre-ending DLCs ?


No one will buy any DLC, I think that BW will sign their own death warrent if nothing happens, I for one will never buy another ME product if they dont fix this. They dont want to stop with this series, its a nice universe with a lot of lore, but they will never survive on the "casuall fans", they dont pre-order or buy DLC, we do, and when we leave I dont think that they will make it.

Some people will like the extended cut DLC, but from what I have seen and read on this forum, we are all thinking the same thing, dissapointed of the same and like the same, so the devs really need to look to us instead of themselfs, we are the ones who buy it, and frankly they are making games for us, not for themselfes.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

byne wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Anybody else see an overturned Mako in the background?


Yeah, that does look like a Mako. Also, to link a pic from the first page:

Posted Image

Gee, I wonder where Shepard is? 


Ooo oo I know this! Ummm...  It's oh man, I'm so nervous. It's umm... Mars! Wait, no, Thessia!


WOW. Look at those comparison shots.....I love it. Just look how the beam on Earth and the Citadel are presented, a beam of light somewhat encircled on both sides.


This pic has awesomeness written all over it.
The beams look so conveniently similar. !


Or it's the same beam. ;)

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BleedingUranium wrote...

Maybe Shep's mind is trying to tell himself going into the real beam is a trap?

Because on my first playthrough, before I knew about the ending or any of this, when I found out there was one single beam that can go to the otherwise impenetrable Citadel, which the reapers know we need for the Crucible, the only thing that can kill them, that they guarded with only a single Destroyer, my first thought was:

cdn.instanttrap.com/trap.jpg


I had the same thought, ever since seeing the beam in the launch trailer (at the very end) I had a bad feeling about it. It struck me as odd that Anderson and Coates didn't seem to bothered by it, but how could they be certain of where that beam went and what its purpose was? The first time I actually saw the beam in-game I said out loud "I have a bad feeling about this". But I also wasn't a big fan of the Crucible as a plot device so.. bad feelings don't mean much.

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SCJ90 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

*snip*

Vahilor wrote...



Probably BW should be really aware that this strategie will pretty sure backfire...
Cause
I think some people are allready gone, cause they don't wait until
summer and the guys who wait for the DLC will be even more dissapointed
if the ending still is crappy.

I wouldn't be happy if the 'Extended Cut' still leaves these questions unanswered. Which seems to be what she is saying.


No but this is a "short term" way of thinking, I dont work for BW or EA and I cant read their minds but this is the only "logical" explanation that I have at the moment,

I am sooooo worried about the "extended cut" DLC, I can just see a Dragon Age epilogue infront of me, with a pic of everyone and giving a short story of what happens next, if I see a IDT dlc I will kiss BW from top to toe and throw my money at them because they have trolled us so hard and they have saved a series, if not, then I will take my money somewhere else.

And if BW dosenst salvages this then they are doomed in my opinion


My absoulte best guess for what Bioware plans to do for DLC is one of two things. If Indoctrination Theory and all other similar theroies are wrong we can more than likely expect single player and multiplayer DLC after Extended Cut is released, the single DLC would be expending on pre-ending missions we'll more than likely see things like "Take back Omega" or "Return to Ilos" and such.

OR, if Indoctrination Theory or a similar explanation is true, after Extended Cut is released we'll see various post-ending DLC  that takes place After the "Shepard's breath" scene released alongside a multiplayer DLC release. More than likely we'll initially finish the battle for Earth, then maybe we'll get DLC like "Take back Palaven" or "Take back Thessia". I assume Palaven because I recall hearing the Bioware team having to drop Palaven from the game, would make sense to return to it for DLC in some way or another.

Either way, I speculate at least the first of these DLC (single and multi) will be free as an apolgy to their fanbase. The rest might cost the standard $5-$10 in points as they have in the past.

Or maybe Bioware will bow out after Extended Cut with a sincere apology and things of that nature. But, as I've said, we'll all just have to wait and see how things go.


Yeah possible ways.. but if the ends are still crappy (in the we take no IDT way and explain all with space Magic). Who will buy the pre-ending DLCs ?


No one will buy any DLC, I think that BW will sign their own death warrent if nothing happens, I for one will never buy another ME product if they dont fix this. They dont want to stop with this series, its a nice universe with a lot of lore, but they will never survive on the "casuall fans", they dont pre-order or buy DLC, we do, and when we leave I dont think that they will make it.

Some people will like the extended cut DLC, but from what I have seen and read on this forum, we are all thinking the same thing, dissapointed of the same and like the same, so the devs really need to look to us instead of themselfs, we are the ones who buy it, and frankly they are making games for us, not for themselfes.


The main problem is their arrogance and that arrogance is one thing that really p... a lot of people off....

And a lot of people are still dissapointed cause of the statement "We will not change the existing endings only add..." from BW.
Ok there are some ways like IDT probably to keep the endings.. but in that case there needs to be post-ending DLC stuff..

And the only other way without changing the endings is.. Space Magic.. Space Magic.. and more Space Magic..

I really can't understand that BW is to blind to see (or more likley don't want to admitt) what crapp they have made there.

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Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Aerie to Tali is a very bad comparison. I can remember many, many things that Tali said besides "WOE IS ME! /wrist"


I remember quite a number of other things Aerie said too, thank you VERY much.


True, didn't mean to imply that ALL Aerie ever said. For instance if you met another species or foreigner, she'd enthusiastically ask them how to say "WOE IS ME! /wrist" in their language.


I'm the son of the Lord of Murder you know, and don't go insulting my wife or I'll have to impale your guts on my Carsomyr.

Also, just finally got the time to finish the entire game, and whoof, I am tired, it's nearly 3 AM here, but more than ever I am solid on Indoctrination Theory, the wavy tentacles, the bleaching effect in the hallway ect. All there, even, kind of, sorta, maybe a little, the music tone. Po'd that I couldn't get TIM to commit suicide though, What did I do wrong there? :?

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 17 avril 2012 - 11:07 .


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For the french peoples I made a big thread that summarizes the IT !

I'm always looking at your discution, even if I don't take part of it :)

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Rhiens VI wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

byne wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Anybody else see an overturned Mako in the background?


Yeah, that does look like a Mako. Also, to link a pic from the first page:

Posted Image

Gee, I wonder where Shepard is? 


Ooo oo I know this! Ummm...  It's oh man, I'm so nervous. It's umm... Mars! Wait, no, Thessia!


WOW. Look at those comparison shots.....I love it. Just look how the beam on Earth and the Citadel are presented, a beam of light somewhat encircled on both sides.


This pic has awesomeness written all over it.
The beams look so conveniently similar. !


Or it's the same beam. ;)


If you watch the ending cinematics with the Crucible attached to the Citadel:
The Cr. is connected at the backside of the Inner ring, for comparison: the wards' cities point to the front side. For example, Shep, when talking to Casper, should be able to see the Crucible above.

So when we see the RGB explosions of the Cit&Cruc there is no beam anywhere.

But yeah, it might just be that all beams look the same. Seems legit.

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delldo wrote...

I was bored and tired so I made a picture to show earth related things, mainly to try and further prove that Shep wakes up on earth and not the Citidel.

Direct link to full size... I think...  http://i167.photobuc...do/Earthpic.jpg


Wow. We've seen some seriously strong hints until now, but nothing as strong as this, this is practically cast-iron evidence. That is quite clearly a Mako, and there are quite clearly only Makos at the bottom of the beam. Great find! I'm now more convinced than ever.

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SCJ90 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

*snip*

Vahilor wrote...



Probably BW should be really aware that this strategie will pretty sure backfire...
Cause
I think some people are allready gone, cause they don't wait until
summer and the guys who wait for the DLC will be even more dissapointed
if the ending still is crappy.

I wouldn't be happy if the 'Extended Cut' still leaves these questions unanswered. Which seems to be what she is saying.


No but this is a "short term" way of thinking, I dont work for BW or EA and I cant read their minds but this is the only "logical" explanation that I have at the moment,

I am sooooo worried about the "extended cut" DLC, I can just see a Dragon Age epilogue infront of me, with a pic of everyone and giving a short story of what happens next, if I see a IDT dlc I will kiss BW from top to toe and throw my money at them because they have trolled us so hard and they have saved a series, if not, then I will take my money somewhere else.

And if BW dosenst salvages this then they are doomed in my opinion


My absoulte best guess for what Bioware plans to do for DLC is one of two things. If Indoctrination Theory and all other similar theroies are wrong we can more than likely expect single player and multiplayer DLC after Extended Cut is released, the single DLC would be expending on pre-ending missions we'll more than likely see things like "Take back Omega" or "Return to Ilos" and such.

OR, if Indoctrination Theory or a similar explanation is true, after Extended Cut is released we'll see various post-ending DLC  that takes place After the "Shepard's breath" scene released alongside a multiplayer DLC release. More than likely we'll initially finish the battle for Earth, then maybe we'll get DLC like "Take back Palaven" or "Take back Thessia". I assume Palaven because I recall hearing the Bioware team having to drop Palaven from the game, would make sense to return to it for DLC in some way or another.

Either way, I speculate at least the first of these DLC (single and multi) will be free as an apolgy to their fanbase. The rest might cost the standard $5-$10 in points as they have in the past.

Or maybe Bioware will bow out after Extended Cut with a sincere apology and things of that nature. But, as I've said, we'll all just have to wait and see how things go.


Yeah possible ways.. but if the ends are still crappy (in the we take no IDT way and explain all with space Magic). Who will buy the pre-ending DLCs ?


No one will buy any DLC, I think that BW will sign their own death warrent if nothing happens, I for one will never buy another ME product if they dont fix this. They dont want to stop with this series, its a nice universe with a lot of lore, but they will never survive on the "casuall fans", they dont pre-order or buy DLC, we do, and when we leave I dont think that they will make it.

Some people will like the extended cut DLC, but from what I have seen and read on this forum, we are all thinking the same thing, dissapointed of the same and like the same, so the devs really need to look to us instead of themselfs, we are the ones who buy it, and frankly they are making games for us, not for themselfes.


I know I'll still buy DLC for this game if it comes out, regardless of what type it is,  because I'm still a Bioware fan in spite of the ME3 ending, I still enjoy re-playing all my Bioware games. I wasn't even upset with the endings when I saw all three, especially after I saw the breath scene. It didn't make me angry in the least, it just made me want to see the rest of the story. It made me question what the endings meant. I know there's more after that breath.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I know I'll still buy DLC for this game if it comes out, regardless of what type it is,  because I'm still a Bioware fan in spite of the ME3 ending, I still enjoy re-playing all my Bioware games. I wasn't even upset with the endings when I saw all three, especially after I saw the breath scene. It didn't make me angry in the least, it just made me want to see the rest of the story. It made me question what the endings meant. I know there's more after that breath.


I still see myself as a BW fan, but if nothing happens I wont have buy more ME DLC, I just want the story to be over in that case. Only reason that I was pissed off, was the promises that we got and the expectations of a epic end to a trilogy. The thing is that I cant replay this game, because in the end nothing matters, wich is sad because the game is sooo great.

I think to myself, why did they do this, why did they develope the end like this, with the bruches and the "small clues", and why on earth would they make an end where Shep lives if they are finishing a trilogy? 

That in my opinion is worse, if they wanted him to sacrifice himself dont let him live, and dont end with a breath scene. They left with so many questions unansweard, they must have something planned... but.... im just not sure, maybe BW trolled us to get PR I dont know

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SCJ90 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I know I'll still buy DLC for this game if it comes out, regardless of what type it is,  because I'm still a Bioware fan in spite of the ME3 ending, I still enjoy re-playing all my Bioware games. I wasn't even upset with the endings when I saw all three, especially after I saw the breath scene. It didn't make me angry in the least, it just made me want to see the rest of the story. It made me question what the endings meant. I know there's more after that breath.


I still see myself as a BW fan, but if nothing happens I wont have buy more ME DLC, I just want the story to be over in that case. Only reason that I was pissed off, was the promises that we got and the expectations of a epic end to a trilogy. The thing is that I cant replay this game, because in the end nothing matters, wich is sad because the game is sooo great.

I think to myself, why did they do this, why did they develope the end like this, with the bruches and the "small clues", and why on earth would they make an end where Shep lives if they are finishing a trilogy? 

That in my opinion is worse, if they wanted him to sacrifice himself dont let him live, and dont end with a breath scene. They left with so many questions unansweard, they must have something planned... but.... im just not sure, maybe BW trolled us to get PR I dont know


What about post-ending DLC? No one ever denied it. The devs always added as a remark that the DLC will make sense where they come in.
I for one won't buy a single pre-ending DLC like, say, the rumored Omega, but post-ending. That is pretty much what everybody wants, right?
If it's post-ending and playing as Shep, I'm all in.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 17 avril 2012 - 11:42 .


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Sammuthegreat wrote...

delldo wrote...

I was bored and tired so I made a picture to show earth related things, mainly to try and further prove that Shep wakes up on earth and not the Citidel.

Direct link to full size... I think...  http://i167.photobuc...do/Earthpic.jpg


Wow. We've seen some seriously strong hints until now, but nothing as strong as this, this is practically cast-iron evidence. That is quite clearly a Mako, and there are quite clearly only Makos at the bottom of the beam. Great find! I'm now more convinced than ever.


+1

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Sorry, but I did not read through 1500 plus pages of IT. But I have to through my hat in the ring here.

I strongly belive that everything after harbingers blast was a hallucination, and all the events that follow was an attempt (provided you choose destroy) to indoctrinate Shep. I belive that choosing destroy beats the indoctrination, while choosing either of the other two means you have been indoctrinated.

I could go into details as to why I think this, but I am sure someone has mentioned what I think and feel somewhere in this thread. So I will just say that I belive the IT and leave it at that.

edit - I will also state that (IMO) that clip where you see the chestplate moving, I feel that it was on earth. The rubble surrounding the chest plate would be more consistant to the battlefield Shep was in ass opposed to the metal alloys one would find on the citidal.

edit #2 - I am all fine with Shep dying at the end. Things like that happen. I just would like it to make sence to me. That's no much to ask for....is it?

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SCJ90 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I know I'll still buy DLC for this game if it comes out, regardless of what type it is,  because I'm still a Bioware fan in spite of the ME3 ending, I still enjoy re-playing all my Bioware games. I wasn't even upset with the endings when I saw all three, especially after I saw the breath scene. It didn't make me angry in the least, it just made me want to see the rest of the story. It made me question what the endings meant. I know there's more after that breath.


I still see myself as a BW fan, but if nothing happens I wont have buy more ME DLC, I just want the story to be over in that case. Only reason that I was pissed off, was the promises that we got and the expectations of a epic end to a trilogy. The thing is that I cant replay this game, because in the end nothing matters, wich is sad because the game is sooo great.

I think to myself, why did they do this, why did they develope the end like this, with the bruches and the "small clues", and why on earth would they make an end where Shep lives if they are finishing a trilogy? 

That in my opinion is worse, if they wanted him to sacrifice himself dont let him live, and dont end with a breath scene. They left with so many questions unansweard, they must have something planned... but.... im just not sure, maybe BW trolled us to get PR I dont know


Even though I'll buy DLC regardless, I am only One gamer, I'm sure if Bioware doesn't do what I think they will there wallets, and EA's, will take a heavy hit.

As for your opinion of nothing matters in the end, I disagree. Almost everything you do in the trilogy matters to someone, whether it matters to  you or a fictional character, it matters. IF the endings play out as they do (without Indoctrination) then your choices make a HUGE difference in the galaxy at the cost of Shepard's life. You stop the Reapers, You save the galaxy, You save your friends, You save your love interest, You take Reaper technology away from the galaxy and end the cycle they've had in place for millions of yeears.

Along the way you affect I don't know how many lives, from helping someone from your childhood to helping a squadmate find closure with an open wound to ending a thousand year old conflict between turian and krogan. These things still happen, if you refuse to do them then nothing happens, people have no hope, conflicts still rage, the galaxy remains divided.  It matters as you play, and it matters in the end.

If we get a different ending, a true ending,  via Indoctrination or something similar then you can bet our decisions matter that much more.

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Toxic Waste wrote...

Sorry, but I did not read through 1500 plus pages of IT. But I have to through my hat in the ring here.

I strongly belive that everything after harbingers blast was a hallucination, and all the events that follow was an attempt (provided you choose destroy) to indoctrinate Shep. I belive that choosing destroy beats the indoctrination, while choosing either of the other two means you have been indoctrinated.

I could go into details as to why I think this, but I am sure someone has mentioned what I think and feel somewhere in this thread. So I will just say that I belive the IT and leave it at that.

edit - I will also state that (IMO) that clip where you see the chestplate moving, I feel that it was on earth. The rubble surrounding the chest plate would be more consistant to the battlefield Shep was in ass opposed to the metal alloys one would find on the citidal.


Welcome to the fold.

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This thing is becoming a religion. I now understand why people still believe in Christ or how they started to do so 2000 years ago...

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MaximizedAction wrote...

SCJ90 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

I know I'll still buy DLC for this game if it comes out, regardless of what type it is,  because I'm still a Bioware fan in spite of the ME3 ending, I still enjoy re-playing all my Bioware games. I wasn't even upset with the endings when I saw all three, especially after I saw the breath scene. It didn't make me angry in the least, it just made me want to see the rest of the story. It made me question what the endings meant. I know there's more after that breath.


I still see myself as a BW fan, but if nothing happens I wont have buy more ME DLC, I just want the story to be over in that case. Only reason that I was pissed off, was the promises that we got and the expectations of a epic end to a trilogy. The thing is that I cant replay this game, because in the end nothing matters, wich is sad because the game is sooo great.

EDIT: @gunslinger_ruiz
Yes I think that you are partly right about my decitions matter, sure you cure the genophage and you save the rahcni and so on, but in the ending everything plays out the same, you get a few cutscenes with krogans and asari commandos but that is about it, but everyone has the same ending, I understand how HARD it is to make an end based on all decitions but here, you have an identical one for everyone, doesn't matter if you killed the geth or made peace, it is all just numbers that shows another 2 sec cutscene.

When you go back to ME1 you just see the end, then whats the point in playing (for me atleast), I can make a farmer happy if a give him a few creds but the galaxy will be reduced to ruble in any case  

I think to myself, why did they do this, why did they develope the end like this, with the bruches and the "small clues", and why on earth would they make an end where Shep lives if they are finishing a trilogy? 

That in my opinion is worse, if they wanted him to sacrifice himself dont let him live, and dont end with a breath scene. They left with so many questions unansweard, they must have something planned... but.... im just not sure, maybe BW trolled us to get PR I dont know


What about post-ending DLC? No one ever denied it. The devs always added as a remark that the DLC will make sense where they come in.
I for one won't buy a single pre-ending DLC like, say, the rumored Omega, but post-ending. That is pretty much what everybody wants, right?
If it's post-ending and playing as Shep, I'm all in.


From what I have gathered, as said, when dont know squat about anything but the extended cut DLC was not planned but it was a "olive branch" to the retake movment and the fans, so all this was suppose to be the end all along, OR they have been planning this for a loong time, to be able to make a GREAT ending, but so far nothing has hinted to this. And in the extended cut you get cutscenes and "maybe dialog" but no gameplay.
( Don't know if I interpeted your post right)

The devs where planning DLC, but no end or post-ending dlc (again, what I know)

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Muhvitus wrote...

This thing is becoming a religion. I now understand why people still believe in Christ or how they started to do so 2000 years ago...


You're not going to start doing THAT crap are you?

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Muhvitus wrote...

This thing is becoming a religion. I now understand why people still believe in Christ or how they started to do so 2000 years ago...


Troll?

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SCJ90 wrote...

From what I have gathered, as said, when dont know squat about anything but the extended cut DLC was not planned but it was a "olive branch" to the retake movment and the fans, so all this was suppose to be the end all along, OR they have been planning this for a loong time, to be able to make a GREAT ending, but so far nothing has hinted to this. And in the extended cut you get cutscenes and "maybe dialog" but no gameplay.
( Don't know if I interpeted your post right)

The devs where planning DLC, but no end or post-ending dlc (again, what I know)


If I'm honest, I don't and won't believe much the devs say until the extended cut actually comes out - misdirection would in this case be a wonderful thing.