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[Arashi08]

So, a bit off topic here but I always wondered...

If EA were to (hypothetically) cut BioWare loose, either because they somehow were in breach of contract, or maybe because EA figures after this fiasco BioWare isn't good for their business (could have to do with EA now apparently being at the top of the BBB's Worst Companies in America list). And then BioWare was left having been sued by EA or something and in bad shape financially, Do you think that if someone tried to start a fundraiser for BioWare so they could recover from their losses from departing from EA and maybe emerge as their own company again? do you think alot of BioWare fans would be behind that and be willing to donate if something like that happened?

Again, im just speaking hypothetically. I don't pretend to understand how BioWare and EA's business model works or what their current state is. the primary thing I was curious about is, would BioWare's fans have enough faith and care enough about the company that they would be willing to shell out a little of their own hard-earned money? Just wondering.

again, sorry for being off topic.

Edit: apparently I can't find the shift key half the time...

Modifié par Arashi08, 17 avril 2012 - 04:14 .

[SS2Dante]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Do we have any thoughts about when the extended cut dlc will be released during summer?


Also I have a theory about extended cut and a possible reason why they aren't revealing IT (if it is indeed true.. which idn) It could be that if they revealed extended cut dlc and plans for IT then it would show everyone they indeed cut the ending from the game and intended to finish it later.. hence.. an incomplete game. So they're trying to keep the hush hush on it to look like they're being bullied by fans.. (my theory of course) does anyone agree with that?

Also have the guys at Bioware come out saying that the extended cut will have no gameplay?

Yeah, I've said before, saying you have an incomplete game released is suicide in the current dlc climate.

Bioware have as ever given mixed signals. I've heard that it will be extra scenes, no gamplay scenes, it will have dialogue scenes and extra cutscenes, and that it will NOT just be extra cutscenes. So...yah.

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

You know what, I think that playing through the whole game and then sending your copy back and demanding a refund because you don't like the ending seems highly unfair on the part of the customer.

Sure, but if you claim Bioware made false promises, and falsely advertised the game, then not only are you correct, but the Better Business Bureau agrees with you.

I.m sorry but I don't follow the logical structure of your statement. Could you rewrite it?

I could but I dont want to sacrifice the artistic integrity of my comment.

Here's the Extended Cut™ of my comment though, which will hopefully clarify it for you:

I agree that returning it because you dont like the ending is stupid, but if you return it because Bioware lied about the product and didnt deliver what they said they'd deliver, I have no problem with that.

Imagine someone pulling that with a movie or book **** would not work

Well, they split the last Harry potter book up for the movies. TV shows and comics do it all the time. If they can sell you a part of the story they will. Javik was part of the story, they sold Javik to you.

[NoSpin]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Do we have any thoughts about when the extended cut dlc will be released during summer?


 

Summer= Latest date in summer they can push it= End of August.

[SS2Dante]

Also, by the way, I assume everyone noticed it, but just in case they didn't - the control options looks a tad Reaperlike, no?

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

You know what, I think that playing through the whole game and then sending your copy back and demanding a refund because you don't like the ending seems highly unfair on the part of the customer.

Sure, but if you claim Bioware made false promises, and falsely advertised the game, then not only are you correct, but the Better Business Bureau agrees with you.

I.m sorry but I don't follow the logical structure of your statement. Could you rewrite it?

I could but I dont want to sacrifice the artistic integrity of my comment.

Here's the Extended Cut™ of my comment though, which will hopefully clarify it for you:

I agree that returning it because you dont like the ending is stupid, but if you return it because Bioware lied about the product and didnt deliver what they said they'd deliver, I have no problem with that.

Imagine someone pulling that with a movie or book **** would not work

Well, they split the last Harry potter book up for the movies. TV shows and comics do it all the time. If they can sell you a part of the story they will. Javik was part of the story, they sold Javik to you.

No, I mean someone suing a book or movie for false advertising  

Actually they didn't, didn't have the points at the time think I'll buy Javik just before the EC and replay.

[balance5050]

Does someone have a pic comparing TIM's eyes to Sheps renegade eyes?

[Drift Avalii]

Now I'm a supporter of IT but there's something I wanted to flag - the Mako has six wheels, right? Because the 'mind-Mako' (I may trademark that for sh*ts and giggles) at the crucible is shown as having four wheels on the side, so eight in total.

What do people think about this? I'm inclined to think a hallucinating/dreaming Shep (I'm gonna say dreaming, working on the basis that she's unconscious) is trying to make sense of the imaginary world and has incorporated the Mako in a twisted form into it - cause people can wake up if a dream makes too little sense. I mean, I've had dreams where I reach a point where dream-me goes 'wtf dude, cars in space? And how come I can breathe?' and woken myself up.

Alternatively, maybe it's Harbinger working within its abilities to make the place seem as believable as it can in order to lure Shep into falling for it and making the right choice.

[SS2Dante]

Drift Avalii wrote...

Now I'm a supporter of IT but there's something I wanted to flag - the Mako has six wheels, right? Because the 'mind-Mako' (I may trademark that for sh*ts and giggles) at the crucible is shown as having four wheels on the side, so eight in total.

What do people think about this? I'm inclined to think a hallucinating/dreaming Shep (I'm gonna say dreaming, working on the basis that she's unconscious) is trying to make sense of the imaginary world and has incorporated the Mako in a twisted form into it - cause people can wake up if a dream makes too little sense. I mean, I've had dreams where I reach a point where dream-me goes 'wtf dude, cars in space? And how come I can breathe?' and woken myself up.

Alternatively, maybe it's Harbinger working within its abilities to make the place seem as believable as it can in order to lure Shep into falling for it and making the right choice.

I don't know if its a mako just because of that weird bump on the right side of the belly, but I don't see 8 wheels. The mako has two wheels together (left side on the image) and one wheel after a gap.

But yeah, I don't know. It definitely looks like a vehicle, and their were multiple types of vehicle in the fight.

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

Does someone have a pic comparing TIM's eyes to Sheps renegade eyes?

http://social.biowar...index/4453255/1

[n00bsauce2010]

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Does someone have a pic comparing TIM's eyes to Sheps renegade eyes?

http://social.biowar...index/4453255/1

Does that mean that paragon shep has normal eyes?

[EpyonX3]

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

Here's the Mako tire



Here are the objects on the Citadel





They look nothing alike except for them both being round.

Here's what they're really for.



They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

Does someone have a pic comparing TIM's eyes to Sheps renegade eyes?

I saw it here before. They have different patterns.

[n00bsauce2010]

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

[EpyonX3]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

There's little reason to not take this literal besides the fact that you'd dislike the ending.

EDIT: Does that also mean that anything round and symmetric throught the game is symbolic of an indoctrination attempt? When does it start and end?

Modifié par EpyonX3, 17 avril 2012 - 04:41 .

[balance5050]

Thx for the links guys!

[balance5050]

 Reposting this:

 

[EpyonX3]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Does someone have a pic comparing TIM's eyes to Sheps renegade eyes?

http://social.biowar...index/4453255/1

Does that mean that paragon shep has normal eyes?

No it means that Paragon Shep hides his implants better.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

There's little reason to not take this literal besides the fact that you'd dislike the ending.

EDIT: Does that also mean that anything round and symmetric throught the game is symbolic of an indoctrination attempt? When does it start and end?

There's like 100 reasons to not take it literally. How does shooting a tube trigger hyper advanced technology?

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

There's little reason to not take this literal besides the fact that you'd dislike the ending.

Again, a lot of us believe this theory not because we didn't like the ending, but because it had far too many plotholes to be accidental. Imagine watching the 6th sense but not seeing the twist. No reason to take it not literally, but...

Also, in the literal ending the designers are giving you a choice. They can't bias your view, aside from the colours. So why take the time to make the paths on each side different? The crucible is a sphere and every other room was symmetrical. It's extra work.

[n00bsauce2010]

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

There's little reason to not take this literal besides the fact that you'd dislike the ending.

But you seem to think you've debunked the theory because they're not "actual" tires. That is what's funny about it. If they put actual tires there than most people would be inclined to think it was a dream.. (too obvious.) The hints have to be symbolic for it to matter.

And I guess by that statement you enjoyed the ending? And Bioware's complete 180 degree turn of the lore and everything the story laid out for us thus far?

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

 Reposting this:

 

When you watch the scene in motion, that tread dissapates. It's smoke.

As for beam structure I can't really see it. If you look just above it you'd notice a sharp curve that just isn't in the second picture.

Also, the concrete image is taken when he's supposedly having the dream. Therefore it shouldn't be in the breathe scene.

[spotlessvoid]

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

There's little reason to not take this literal besides the fact that you'd dislike the ending.

EDIT: Does that also mean that anything round and symmetric throught the game is symbolic of an indoctrination attempt? When does it start and end?

I think the implication is that the visual similarity between pre and post beam content is possibly either an in-game hint, or Shepard incorporating his surroundings into the hallucination. Or something

[EpyonX3]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I'm going to address the Mako tires on the citadel.

I can't see how you guys think that the round objects on the decision platforms are mako tires.

They are sockets for the cable bundles all around.

You're taking it too literal. We're only addressing the symetrical similarities between what is in front of the conduit beam and the final decision area. The fact that there are black, circular objects to the left of the crucible's beam is pretty interesting. They're obviously not tires.. that would be too obvious.

There's little reason to not take this literal besides the fact that you'd dislike the ending.

But you seem to think you've debunked the theory because they're not "actual" tires. That is what's funny about it. If they put actual tires there than most people would be inclined to think it was a dream.. (too obvious.) The hints have to be symbolic for it to matter.

And I guess by that statement you enjoyed the ending? And Bioware's complete 180 degree turn of the lore and everything the story laid out for us thus far?

I'm specifically addressing the tires. I don't think it lends evidence to the thoery. In no way have I said that this debunkes the theory.

No one peice of evidence debunks the thoery,  nor does it prove it.

I'm ok with the ending. I'm not jumping for joy about it but it is what it is and I welcome clarification.

Modifié par EpyonX3, 17 avril 2012 - 04:51 .