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[Rosewind]

I have a question and no clue if anyone has addressed it any where or even thought about it. You know in ME1 how the Protheans "apply" the conduit to the citadel to stop the reapers from using it as a Mass Effect relay.
My question is if the keeper are the slaves of the reapers why didn't they just disconnect it or what ever it does, wouldn't they have known something was wrong and tried to fix it? Maybe the keepers are sort of on our side "rebelling" in small ways?

Oh and about that keeper who "looks" at Shep when he goes to the citadel through the portal the keepers along there and even in the docking bay all look in that direction if you watch him after the cut scene he still glances in the same direction.

Modifié par Rosewind, 17 avril 2012 - 06:14 .

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

I also found it a little fishy how the SC says "the Citadel is a part of me". Because.. wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? I dunno, it just bugs me.

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

Or people were in denial of this even being a threat. The further away you are from something the less impact it has on your day. I'm sure they started hurting after the reports started coming in.

[OdanUrr]

DreamTension wrote...

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

It's a very good question. The introduction of the Catalyst raises a lot of questions concerning his role during the events of ME1 and ME2. I've argued in a short story I wrote that it's possible the Catalyst was trapped in the Citadel. As for why he doesn't indoctrinate, I'm guessing he can't (as explained in the story). Going by my story, indoctrination would have been a Reaper creation trying to mimic the control the Catalyst had over them for millions of years. I am, however, playing with the idea that TIM may have been possessed by the Catalyst at some point. It's fun.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

I also found it a little fishy how the SC says "the Citadel is a part of me". Because.. wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? I dunno, it just bugs me.

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

Or people were in denial of this even being a threat. The further away you are from something the less impact it has on your day. I'm sure they started hurting after the reports started coming in.

The Sol system is fairly close to the Citadel.

[Eli Parker]

balance5050 wrote...

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

I don't believe there is low level mass indoc at the citadel. To me that is just a false sense of security, it's like going to a war zone and then come back to a safe place. Vega just saw his world destoried and he thinks that this is a war that everyone needs to fight, and for him being in a safe haven nothing feels right. 

[EpyonX3]

Rosewind wrote...

Oh and about that keeper who "looks" at Shep when he goes to the citadel through the portal the keepers along there and even in the docking bay all look in that direction if you watch him after the cut scene he still glances in the same direction.

At this point the keepers role was to process the bodies. It probably looked at it to see if it needed to be moved out of the way. If you notice there's a path to the doors with bodies piled. I'm sure the keeprs made the path to be able to move from front to back.

Since Shep was alive, it want back to work and ignored him like always.

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

Well the protheans have one thing over us that we didn't know. They invaded through the citadel. I'm sure thet studied what they could and came to the conclusion that the citadel can power their weapon.

Thinking about this i also realized somehting. The reason the relays weren't shut down is because the reapers themselves can't do it. Only the catalyst can, which would have been activated by Sovereign.

I mean if the reapers took three years to get to the nearest realy, doesn't that suggest that they have a way of jumping from wherever the are to us without the use of them?

It has definitely been established that the citadel controls the relay network, but I don't see why that needs the catalyst, since the Reapers have (it is implied) always made the jump successfully before.

EDIT: I'm confused about that  last point. Clarify?

Modifié par SS2Dante, 17 avril 2012 - 06:17 .

[ExtendedCut]

Eli Parker wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

I'm in the Indoctrination Theory way of thinking. What if the Indoctrination Theory starts at the portal to get to the Citidal after Shep gets hit Harpenger's beam?

Also anything new for the Indoctrination Theory or disproving the Indoctrination Theory?

Only thing I can tell is this:
https://twitter.com/...133411362705408


@Evan_TheJedi @jessicamerizan @geousprime would clarify if IT is legit or not. Or maybe they will always leave it up to interpretation.
@FemmeShep @Evan_TheJedi @geousprime I believe the latter is more likely

My reason for not liking the end to be up for interpretation is because this isn't a passive game, you the player are moving the story forward and help shape the world. I understand that LOST was up for interpretation (I haven't see it) and Twin Peaks was up for interpreation I was alright with it because I couldn't shape that world.

It's funny, because I was a huge LOST fan, and when the ending happened, people reacted EXACTLY how they are to this situation. 

I think the anger over ME has been tempered a little by the hope that the Extended Cut will "fix everything", but the reaction of Lost/ME love that changed almost overnight to Lost/ME hatred and bashing is almost identical.

[balance5050]

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

I don't believe there is low level mass indoc at the citadel. To me that is just a false sense of security, it's like going to a war zone and then come back to a safe place. Vega just saw his world destoried and he thinks that this is a war that everyone needs to fight, and for him being in a safe haven nothing feels right. 

Perception.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

I also found it a little fishy how the SC says "the Citadel is a part of me". Because.. wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? I dunno, it just bugs me.

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

Or people were in denial of this even being a threat. The further away you are from something the less impact it has on your day. I'm sure they started hurting after the reports started coming in.

The Sol system is fairly close to the Citadel.

yet the citadel wasn't attacked by reapers throughout the whole game. You can listen to the reports and announcements as the game goes along. They at first dismiss the attackers being reapers until several planets start reporting them. All of a sudden people are in war mode. If they were being indcotrinated you'd see people wanting to let them into the citadel, not preparing to fight them.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

I also found it a little fishy how the SC says "the Citadel is a part of me". Because.. wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? I dunno, it just bugs me.

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

Or people were in denial of this even being a threat. The further away you are from something the less impact it has on your day. I'm sure they started hurting after the reports started coming in.

The Sol system is fairly close to the Citadel.

yet the citadel wasn't attacked by reapers throughout the whole game. You can listen to the reports and announcements as the game goes along. They at first dismiss the attackers being reapers until several planets start reporting them. All of a sudden people are in war mode. If they were being indcotrinated you'd see people wanting to let them into the citadel, not preparing to fight them.

I really think that since the reapers mainly just want to "harvest" they would want people to just stay put on the citadel.

[DreamTension]

OdanUrr wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

It's a very good question. The introduction of the Catalyst raises a lot of questions concerning his role during the events of ME1 and ME2. I've argued in a short story I wrote that it's possible the Catalyst was trapped in the Citadel. As for why he doesn't indoctrinate, I'm guessing he can't (as explained in the story). Going by my story, indoctrination would have been a Reaper creation trying to mimic the control the Catalyst had over them for millions of years. I am, however, playing with the idea that TIM may have been possessed by the Catalyst at some point. It's fun.

Good luck with that

[Eli Parker]

ExtendedCut wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

I'm in the Indoctrination Theory way of thinking. What if the Indoctrination Theory starts at the portal to get to the Citidal after Shep gets hit Harpenger's beam?

Also anything new for the Indoctrination Theory or disproving the Indoctrination Theory?

Only thing I can tell is this:
https://twitter.com/...133411362705408


@Evan_TheJedi @jessicamerizan @geousprime would clarify if IT is legit or not. Or maybe they will always leave it up to interpretation.
@FemmeShep @Evan_TheJedi @geousprime I believe the latter is more likely

My reason for not liking the end to be up for interpretation is because this isn't a passive game, you the player are moving the story forward and help shape the world. I understand that LOST was up for interpretation (I haven't see it) and Twin Peaks was up for interpreation I was alright with it because I couldn't shape that world.

It's funny, because I was a huge LOST fan, and when the ending happened, people reacted EXACTLY how they are to this situation. 

I think the anger over ME has been tempered a little by the hope that the Extended Cut will "fix everything", but the reaction of Lost/ME love that changed almost overnight to Lost/ME hatred and bashing is almost identical.

Really, wow that's not a good way to end anything. To me a end needs to fit the overacrhing story and if the end is bad then you lost lots of fans. The question is will you watch anything else of JJ Abrams writes again (I'm not watching the show on fox, but I'm looking forward to Star Trek 2)?

[Eli Parker]

balance5050 wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

I don't believe there is low level mass indoc at the citadel. To me that is just a false sense of security, it's like going to a war zone and then come back to a safe place. Vega just saw his world destoried and he thinks that this is a war that everyone needs to fight, and for him being in a safe haven nothing feels right. 

Perception.

So how would you react? I thought Vega reacted like anybody if they were in his shoes. 

[Rosewind]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Oh and about that keeper who "looks" at Shep when he goes to the citadel through the portal the keepers along there and even in the docking bay all look in that direction if you watch him after the cut scene he still glances in the same direction.

At this point the keepers role was to process the bodies. It probably looked at it to see if it needed to be moved out of the way. If you notice there's a path to the doors with bodies piled. I'm sure the keeprs made the path to be able to move from front to back.

Since Shep was alive, it want back to work and ignored him like always.

He He what I meant was that it's the keepers default idle to quickly glance in the same direction all the time, the keeper at Docking Bay D-24 always looks in the same direction when it is idle infront the controller thingie. And that it was a big coinky dink that it "looked" at Shep at the start of the scene.

[delldo]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

 Reposting this:

 

When you watch the scene in motion, that tread dissapates. It's smoke.

As for beam structure I can't really see it. If you look just above it you'd notice a sharp curve that just isn't in the second picture.

Also, the concrete image is taken when he's supposedly having the dream. Therefore it shouldn't be in the breathe scene.

I finally have some time to respond, way to tired last night too.

I watched the scene over and over again and I can see what you mean by the tread like pattern possibly being created by the smoke, but that doesnt explain the overall shape of the object matching that of an overturned mako and I simply cant see smoke creating tread like patterns on any other objects.

The beams are just similar to the ones in the rubble, they have similar lines, but yes there are inconsistencies which is why I stated that I couldn't find the right angle in the game.  I wish I could walk around the structure before the beam pulls me up but I cant... stupid game mechanic...  I also couldnt find anything closely resembling that portion of the rubble on the citidel so I am still looking.

The cement was just to show cement, wether it was a dream sequence or not it never changed, this can be seen as Shep runs towards the beam on both sides of him.

How come no one mentioned the shrubbs (or I missed it)?  All of the shrubbs in the game have a lot of detail, these are just 2D sprites.  These are not just being blown in the wind, they actually stretch and skew, no other plant life does this in the game from what I have seen.  Plus once you get inside the dark red hallway you see almost the exact same oily, webby, shrubby things scattered on the cieling and walls.  They just look out of place from all of the other shrubbery in the game.

[ExtendedCut]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

DreamTension wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

I also found it a little fishy how the SC says "the Citadel is a part of me". Because.. wouldn't it make more sense the other way around? I dunno, it just bugs me.

Another thing I just don't get: If star child was on citadel this whole time, why not indoctrinate everybody on the Citadel?  Am I overlooking something?

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

Or people were in denial of this even being a threat. The further away you are from something the less impact it has on your day. I'm sure they started hurting after the reports started coming in.

The Sol system is fairly close to the Citadel.

yet the citadel wasn't attacked by reapers throughout the whole game. You can listen to the reports and announcements as the game goes along. They at first dismiss the attackers being reapers until several planets start reporting them. All of a sudden people are in war mode. If they were being indcotrinated you'd see people wanting to let them into the citadel, not preparing to fight them.

I really think that since the reapers mainly just want to "harvest" they would want people to just stay put on the citadel.

Did anyone ever specifically say what happened to everyone on the Citadel when the Reapers "hijacked" it?

[EpyonX3]

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

Well the protheans have one thing over us that we didn't know. They invaded through the citadel. I'm sure thet studied what they could and came to the conclusion that the citadel can power their weapon.

Thinking about this i also realized somehting. The reason the relays weren't shut down is because the reapers themselves can't do it. Only the catalyst can, which would have been activated by Sovereign.

I mean if the reapers took three years to get to the nearest realy, doesn't that suggest that they have a way of jumping from wherever the are to us without the use of them?

It has definitely been established that the citadel controls the relay network, but I don't see why that needs the catalyst, since the Reapers have (it is implied) always made the jump successfully before.

EDIT: I'm confused about that  last point. Clarify?

Sorry. Me and my randowm thoughts.


What I mean is that I think there's a relay sitting either in another galaxy or in dark space. The energy required to jump from wherever that relay is and the citadel must be huge. It may require the catalyst to be activated, soverign to control the direction and be a channel for that energy, the energy goes through every relay like it does in the ending, but without destroying them and reaches that relay out in the middle of nowhere.

The crucible is the opposite of what Sovereign does, (it even mounts on the opposite side) and uses that as a weapon.

[Eli Parker]

Rosewind wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Oh and about that keeper who "looks" at Shep when he goes to the citadel through the portal the keepers along there and even in the docking bay all look in that direction if you watch him after the cut scene he still glances in the same direction.

At this point the keepers role was to process the bodies. It probably looked at it to see if it needed to be moved out of the way. If you notice there's a path to the doors with bodies piled. I'm sure the keeprs made the path to be able to move from front to back.

Since Shep was alive, it want back to work and ignored him like always.

He He what I meant was that it's the keepers default idle to quickly glance in the same direction all the time, the keeper at Docking Bay D-24 always looks in the same direction when it is idle infront the controller thingie. And that it was a big coinky dink that it "looked" at Shep at the start of the scene.

I always felt like the keepers were watching me while playing. I would like to see Bioware have a DLC where your Shep looks for the origin of the Keepers within the Citadel.

[balance5050]

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

I don't believe there is low level mass indoc at the citadel. To me that is just a false sense of security, it's like going to a war zone and then come back to a safe place. Vega just saw his world destoried and he thinks that this is a war that everyone needs to fight, and for him being in a safe haven nothing feels right. 

Perception.

So how would you react? I thought Vega reacted like anybody if they were in his shoes. 

I would go to that one planet that destroyed all of its own satellites to try and make the reapers think that we were primitive.

I would be like "why are these people so calm? where is this false sense of security coming from"

I would make it my only goal to destroy the reapers, not bargain with them, not let them trick me.

I WOULD DESTROY THE REAPERS.

[spotlessvoid]

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The signal kills synthetics accroding to the child and is not reaper specific. Again it's a guess as the Space Magic itself is pretty strange.

But unexplainable technology doesn't always need to imply a dream sequence.

Not all synthetics because EDI can live.

As well as shepard... (breath scene) he should be dead there... but somehow survived 2 explosions, the signal space magic wave.. and the fall back to Earth.

EDI coming out of the ship has yet to be seen and has been rumored by a single post on a forum. To my knowledge, no one has been able to replicate it.

http://www.google.co...qNHjlIfcnYfVKdA

Sorry bout the crazy link, on my Droid

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Anywho, something that occured to me while playing through the ending.

The Citadel is the Catalyst, this has been established by the Prothean VI. Everyone in the real, physical world agrees with this, only one does not, the Star child. They never mentioened the Starchild anywhere else, and there was in fact, nothing to build up to or establish him, and in fact specifically said the Citadel was the Catalyst, and the reasons for why (power) considering it was planned by organics and the first organic, supposedly, to meet the SC is Shepard, they couldn't have planned with the SC in mind. Self contradicting logic.

Well the protheans have one thing over us that we didn't know. They invaded through the citadel. I'm sure thet studied what they could and came to the conclusion that the citadel can power their weapon.

Thinking about this i also realized somehting. The reason the relays weren't shut down is because the reapers themselves can't do it. Only the catalyst can, which would have been activated by Sovereign.

I mean if the reapers took three years to get to the nearest realy, doesn't that suggest that they have a way of jumping from wherever the are to us without the use of them?

It has definitely been established that the citadel controls the relay network, but I don't see why that needs the catalyst, since the Reapers have (it is implied) always made the jump successfully before.

EDIT: I'm confused about that  last point. Clarify?

Sorry. Me and my randowm thoughts.


What I mean is that I think there's a relay sitting either in another galaxy or in dark space. The energy required to jump from wherever that relay is and the citadel must be huge. It may require the catalyst to be activated, soverign to control the direction and be a channel for that energy, the energy goes through every relay like it does in the ending, but without destroying them and reaches that relay out in the middle of nowhere.

The crucible is the opposite of what Sovereign does, (it even mounts on the opposite side) and uses that as a weapon.

Essentially I think this is true, since Sovereign was to open the Citadel relay and you'd need another relay to jump from, but again I don't see why the catalyst is necessary in this situation. Giving individual reapers the ability to turn on and off the relays is dangerous, in case one is killed or captured.

[EpyonX3]

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

I don't believe there is low level mass indoc at the citadel. To me that is just a false sense of security, it's like going to a war zone and then come back to a safe place. Vega just saw his world destoried and he thinks that this is a war that everyone needs to fight, and for him being in a safe haven nothing feels right. 

Perception.

So how would you react? I thought Vega reacted like anybody if they were in his shoes. 

Me too. I look to this example. On 9/11 in the US New yorkers were in disarray. I wasn't under the towers but I live in brooklyn and could see the towers on fire from where I was. Everyone was shaken by it.

Do you think people in lets say california were just as shaken? Or even people in another country like Russia or Brazil?

The further away you are from danger, the less you feel threatened by it. This is what I saw on the Citadel.

[Eli Parker]

balance5050 wrote...

I would go to that one planet that destroyed all of its own satellites to try and make the reapers think that we were primitive.

  

What planet was that?

balance5050 wrote... 

I would be like "why are these people so calm? where is this false sense of security coming from"

 


I think it comes from them truly being scared so they try to counter this by just doing life day to day. 

balance5050 wrote...  

I would make it my only goal to destroy the reapers, not bargain with them, not let them trick me.

I WOULD DESTROY THE REAPERS.

With the indoc theory you would know they are tricking you, tha the kick in the arse about it. It like when you think for a moment that your dreams are real.

[Eli Parker]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Vega of all people explains this. When you talk to him on the citadedl he notices how weird it is that everyone seems so calm considering that the reapers are in the galaxy and the citadel served as a trap. Basically there is low level mass indoc going on that "keeps the masses sedated" the reapers designed it to be the hub of the galaxy. People still flock there because they think it is safe when it's not. 

I don't believe there is low level mass indoc at the citadel. To me that is just a false sense of security, it's like going to a war zone and then come back to a safe place. Vega just saw his world destoried and he thinks that this is a war that everyone needs to fight, and for him being in a safe haven nothing feels right. 

Perception.

So how would you react? I thought Vega reacted like anybody if they were in his shoes. 

Me too. I look to this example. On 9/11 in the US New yorkers were in disarray. I wasn't under the towers but I live in brooklyn and could see the towers on fire from where I was. Everyone was shaken by it.

Do you think people in lets say california were just as shaken? Or even people in another country like Russia or Brazil?

The further away you are from danger, the less you feel threatened by it. This is what I saw on the Citadel.

Exactly, I was in Long Island  and that day I was at school when I heard the news.