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Imjustaj

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Sorry for the repost. Tried to respond to Eli but my reply is not there. Anyway Eli you are right but they are gunna struggle to sell an MMO if they have lost thier fan base Lol. Even more reason to believe in IT

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Parabolee77 wrote...

Although this board moves SO fast, those that actually remember that I was working on this will probably miss this post...

Here is my MASSIVE article attempting to collect all the evidence for Indoctrination in one place -

Here is the thread on this board for it -

http://social.biowar...5589/1#11485833

Here is the original article -

http://parabolee.blogspot.com/


It's over 10,000 words long! Thanks to all the great people on this board that contributed. And for those that asked someone to consolidate all this info, ENJOY!




Not bad. One thing I've noticed so far - most of the guides I've checked says that at low EMS you get the Destroy option if you destroyed the collector base, and the control option if you kept it. obviously this is in line with IT but I can't confirm it myself.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 17 avril 2012 - 08:43 .


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SS2Dante

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http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P

Modifié par SS2Dante, 17 avril 2012 - 08:44 .


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Imjustaj wrote...

Sorry for the repost. Tried to respond to Eli but my reply is not there. Anyway Eli you are right but they are gunna struggle to sell an MMO if they have lost thier fan base Lol. Even more reason to believe in IT


I believe in the IT, but I has believe that Bioware should rest the Mass Effect IP after they finish the Mass Effect DLCs, the upcoming Comic Book and the rewrite of the novel deception. I believe this because there is no bigger threat then the reapers and to me the main appeal of the Mass Effect games are the players as they choose of the story upfolds and they are the ones moving the plot foward by their in game choice over the course of three games.  

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SS2Dante wrote...

http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P


Damn that is one detailed closeup

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balance5050 wrote...

Parabolee77 wrote...

Although this board moves SO fast, those that actually remember that I was working on this will probably miss this post...

Here is my MASSIVE article attempting to collect all the evidence for Indoctrination in one place -

Here is the thread on this board for it -

http://social.biowar...5589/1#11485833

Here is the original article -

http://parabolee.blogspot.com/


It's over 10,000 words long! Thanks to all the great people on this board that contributed. And for those that asked someone to consolidate all this info, ENJOY!




That's huge, good job! When you're talking about the "white light" dream transition effect you should use these pics:



The thing with the lighting is that the first two scenarios are you either waking up from the dream or transitioning and leaving the consensus. Whatever it is you're leaving the previous state, which is not set in the physical world.

In the third, you get hit by the beam and this is when you're supposed to start the dream. It's backwards and not in line with the rest of the dream sequences.

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P


Damn that is one detailed closeup


Yeah, imagine if we could get the extra red scene in that level of res.

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EpyonX3

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P


Damn that is one detailed closeup


Hmm just wondering. If the blue energy made Shepard into a husk, wouldn't it do the same to everyone it hit? Those same blue sparks run all over those soldiers on the ground.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P


Damn that is one detailed closeup


Hmm just wondering. If the blue energy made Shepard into a husk, wouldn't it do the same to everyone it hit? Those same blue sparks run all over those soldiers on the ground.


Another reason that ending makes no sense.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P


Damn that is one detailed closeup


Hmm just wondering. If the blue energy made Shepard into a husk, wouldn't it do the same to everyone it hit? Those same blue sparks run all over those soldiers on the ground.


Maybe THATS why they dont cheer if your EMS is low and you choose control. Husks dont cheer.

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Reaper cables even in multiplayer!

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Hey, guys? Something I noticed when first playing, but haven't thought about since then. You know how IT says Shepard is imagining the crew somewhere far away and safe?

Did anyone else think that the final planet looked a tad familiar? Here:

http://inanage.files...ing07.jpg?w=604 (again from that blog, very useful)

and here

http://images3.wikia...ko_Dropzone.png

The whole crew. Safe, sound...and reunited.

EDIT: not that I would say this is evidence as such, just thematically it fits, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 17 avril 2012 - 08:58 .


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EpyonX3 wrote...

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Reaper cables even in multiplayer!


They're EVERYWHERE!!

#38164
EpyonX3

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

http://images.wryter...es/shepeyes.png (taken from parabolee77 's blog post)

GUYS GUYS. Check husk shepards eyes (zoomed in).

IS THAT REBAR OR CABLES!???

:P


Damn that is one detailed closeup


Hmm just wondering. If the blue energy made Shepard into a husk, wouldn't it do the same to everyone it hit? Those same blue sparks run all over those soldiers on the ground.


Maybe THATS why they dont cheer if your EMS is low and you choose control. Husks dont cheer.



EDIT: Re read you comment I misunderstood. Sorry.

You're buddies on the normandy don't get husked.

Modifié par EpyonX3, 17 avril 2012 - 08:55 .


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I hope it is a hallucination. I plan for it not being a hallucination.
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

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Reaper cables even in multiplayer!


They're EVERYWHERE!!


Careful, you guys might be getting indoctrinated in your multiplayer too!

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Eli Parker wrote...

Imjustaj wrote...

Sorry for the repost. Tried to respond to Eli but my reply is not there. Anyway Eli you are right but they are gunna struggle to sell an MMO if they have lost thier fan base Lol. Even more reason to believe in IT


I believe in the IT, but I has believe that Bioware should rest the Mass Effect IP after they finish the Mass Effect DLCs, the upcoming Comic Book and the rewrite of the novel deception. I believe this because there is no bigger threat then the reapers and to me the main appeal of the Mass Effect games are the players as they choose of the story upfolds and they are the ones moving the plot foward by their in game choice over the course of three games.  

Spot on m8. 

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SS2Dante wrote...

Hey, guys? Something I noticed when first playing, but haven't thought about since then. You know how IT says Shepard is imagining the crew somewhere far away and safe?

Did anyone else think that the final planet looked a tad familiar? Here:

http://inanage.files...ing07.jpg?w=604 (again from that blog, very useful)

and here

http://images3.wikia...ko_Dropzone.png

The whole crew. Safe, sound...and reunited.


Damnit I was thinking they were on virmire! Never wanted to bring it up. But does vermire have those extra features in the sky?

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Just imagine how f*cking creepy it would be if indoctrination was a real thing

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EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

snip

Reaper cables even in multiplayer!


They're EVERYWHERE!!


Careful, you guys might be getting indoctrinated in your multiplayer too!


Also, These pylons appear in MP as well, but they don't have backwards writing on them.

Posted Image 

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just imagine how f*cking creepy it would be if indoctrination was a real thing


It is. Subliminal messaging, hypnosis, brainwashing through conditioning.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Hey, guys? Something I noticed when first playing, but haven't thought about since then. You know how IT says Shepard is imagining the crew somewhere far away and safe?

Did anyone else think that the final planet looked a tad familiar? Here:

http://inanage.files...ing07.jpg?w=604 (again from that blog, very useful)

and here

http://images3.wikia...ko_Dropzone.png

The whole crew. Safe, sound...and reunited.


Damnit I was thinking they were on virmire! Never wanted to bring it up. But does vermire have those extra features in the sky?


Oh good. People tell you you're only seeing what you want to see and you start to believe em, nice to see someone else thought so :P

Em, I don't have any good screenshots of it, but from what I can see it's just clouds?

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

snip

Reaper cables even in multiplayer!


They're EVERYWHERE!!


Careful, you guys might be getting indoctrinated in your multiplayer too!


Also, These pylons appear in MP as well, but they don't have backwards writing on them.

Posted Image 


You know what rmr stands for right? it's not 1m1 backwards. It's "rumour" ;)

DUN DUN DUUUUUN :P

Edit: no but really, human writing and alliance tags on the construction work, all deliberately framed so that we must see them. Human 'construction' indeed.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 17 avril 2012 - 09:01 .


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@Parabolee77

That blog post is very interesting, I totally hadn't noticed before that the control panel room reconfigures just to give Shep/Anderson somewhere to sit - didn't even notice the middle had raised at all! Extra ammunition for a dreamlike state, IMHO.

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SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

snip

Reaper cables even in multiplayer!


They're EVERYWHERE!!


Careful, you guys might be getting indoctrinated in your multiplayer too!


Also, These pylons appear in MP as well, but they don't have backwards writing on them.

 


You know what rmr stands for right? it's not 1m1 backwards. It's "rumour" ;)

DUN DUN DUUUUUN :P


Mind=blown

I heard someone else mention that it means "singularity" or it has something to do in networking where all avenues of information converge at a single point. A collapsing of all possible realities to a single "true" reality.