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[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


Haven't checked but I'll take your word. What's the literal interpretation of this? We've already stated that in IT Anderson is the part of you that can sense the indoctrination, so that checks out, but I don't see the literal explanation, apart from coincidence, I suppose.

TIM, although in possesion of Reaper powers, is still Human and sloppy. He forgets to apply the same amount of force on Shepard just before he shoots him. If you notice, the wavy lines don't appear as He raises his gun towards Shepard. Shepard shakes his head, opens his eyes more and grips his gun, indicating to the player that Shepard is loose before he gets the chance to take the shot.

The wavy lines don't appear at all for a good deal of the conversation :S

Also, where the hell did the gun come from? Anderson definitely didn't have it, and neither does TIM.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

I think I found something that supports rebar in the breath scene. I've replayed the bomb mission on tuchanka, where there is a lot of rubble and REBAR. And this rebar is exacly like that from the ending scene, only at a low-res, and you can see rebar bended and spaced like in the breath scene... if someone can post pics about this I would be grateful, because I can't do it myself.

Luckily I have a save file for the specific mission. Don't know why. What part specifically if you remember?

I know why, Tuchanka is an awesome mission. Do us proud with that flycam fact checker.

[Hawk227]

EpyonX3 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

By the way I noticed that the shifting walls are just those electric panels.

Don't know if anyone else noticed but the walls actually do move. I might be late to the party but just in case I'm not here's a quick clip that shows it.



This gives a good indication that Anderson was way ahead of you before the doors to your hallway opened.

Yeah but there is only one entrance into the final room. Assuming Anderson started in roughly the same area as you, the entire middle section you were in would have to rotate to connect it to the entrance. That's a hell of a bizarre design.

Check another one of my videos.

I see a few flaws in your video. In that other hallway, there isn't an entry port from the beam. Not to mention, both of them would have been within shouting distance and Anderson would have been seen crossing the bridge.

Of course. I can't really explain those flaws without speculating on how the beam works. i got into this with Dreman(I think) on another forum. I guessed that the beam throws bodies into succedding halways one by one to avoid crowding of the beam.

They could have shouted at each other but I think the point was to be quiet and not let the whole Citadel know you were there, espcially when it's barely bright enough for you to see.

BTW there are way more rooms like this. I think they're about 10.

Also, thinking about the whole thing, the control panel probably wasn't meant to open the arms specifically. Shepard must have experience working the Citadel's controls being a spectre and all. The only place that there' no clear access to is the decision chamber where a raising platform is needed to get you there.

I never had a problem with Anderson coming up the beam into a different room. The problem is that Anderson says he found a way across, while you are already on that way across. He says he thinks he sees a console, when you are at the base of the ramp up to that room. If he only just saw it, he should be at the top of the ramp, in plain sight. There's only one way into that room, and you're on it while Anderson is supposed to be on it.

[SS2Dante]

EpyonX3 wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

I think I found something that supports rebar in the breath scene. I've replayed the bomb mission on tuchanka, where there is a lot of rubble and REBAR. And this rebar is exacly like that from the ending scene, only at a low-res, and you can see rebar bended and spaced like in the breath scene... if someone can post pics about this I would be grateful, because I can't do it myself.

Luckily I have a save file for the specific mission. Don't know why. What part specifically if you remember?

Oh, EpyonXe! I don't suppose the second dream happens near that part (I think someone said it does). They said they could hear a weird noise during it (I assume with music off).  If you do happen to play it don't suppose you can check for me? I keep trying to find where the weird whistle is coming from in the crucible scene and this was the closest description to it

[SixG90]

balance5050 wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

I think I found something that supports rebar in the breath scene. I've replayed the bomb mission on tuchanka, where there is a lot of rubble and REBAR. And this rebar is exacly like that from the ending scene, only at a low-res, and you can see rebar bended and spaced like in the breath scene... if someone can post pics about this I would be grateful, because I can't do it myself.

If someone could find rebar that looks exactly like those cables, that would be huge.

I can describe it as thick, bended and with faint red lines between the " helical" structure tipical of rebar. Can't do better, sorry, I'm not a native speaker.

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...

Also, where the hell did the gun come from? Anderson definitely didn't have it, and neither does TIM.

Anderson has that gun moments before the run to the citadel. After the laser, Shep picks it up, which makes no sense because Anderson was behind him.

Modifié par balance5050, 18 avril 2012 - 09:01 .

[EpyonX3]

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So no one seems to be interested in discussing "swarms of nanites" from Sanctuary.

I thought someone pointed out that these nanites turn people into Husks?

Husk are in the final stage of indoctrination (post-indoctrination) so it could all have started with nanites.

Nanites fast track to huskification and skips the whole "it's in your head" part

Husks *can be* a final stage but it's not like rana thanoptis turned into a husk. If Shep were injected with nanites, he wouldn't be indoctrinated, he would just be a husk.

Inhaling nanites might make their spread slower. In the end Shepard is turned into a husk anyway (Control/Synthesis).
If he chooses Destroy, according to IT none of this matters because he wakes up and you can consider swarms of nanites as a means to visualize indoctrination (but only outside of the dream, during the dream they should be considered as a concrete piece of technology).

They weren't nanites because Anderson was already under control before the wave appeared. 

Nanites clearly go after the subject's entire body like a swarm of bugs. Shepard would have been swatting at himself before he was paralized.

Also, how do you explain TIM's glowing hands?

Cybernetic augmentations.

And those Cybernetic Augmentations allow him to control who he wants around him. Why would he need Nanites?

[SS2Dante]

Also, I'm more convinced by the fact that it is clearly the same whispers (by that I mean same sound file) as from the dream. The exact same.

[BatmanTurian]

mrs.N7 wrote...

I think I found something that supports rebar in the breath scene. I've replayed the bomb mission on tuchanka, where there is a lot of rubble and REBAR. And this rebar is exacly like that from the ending scene, only at a low-res, and you can see rebar bended and spaced like in the breath scene... if someone can post pics about this I would be grateful, because I can't do it myself.

I have a few. Source: http://www.cheatmast...ority:-tuchanka

Edit: I can't get these to post on the forums because they're high rez and I'm not that skilled in BB code

http://www.cheatmast...81-1024x576.jpg

http://www.cheatmast...08-1024x576.jpg

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 18 avril 2012 - 09:13 .

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Also, where the hell did the gun come from? Anderson definitely didn't have it, and neither does TIM.

Anderson has that gun moments before the run to the citadel. After the laser, Shep picks it up, which makes no sense because Anderson was behind him.

This is another Bioware slip up. The only reason I believe this is because even in certain in game cinemtatics, you're given a gun you didn't carry into the mission. They could have just given it to you becuase any other gun wouldn't fit the final scenes.

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...

Also, I'm more convinced by the fact that it is clearly the same whispers (by that I mean same sound file) as from the dream. The exact same.

EXACT SAME!

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So no one seems to be interested in discussing "swarms of nanites" from Sanctuary.

I thought someone pointed out that these nanites turn people into Husks?

Husk are in the final stage of indoctrination (post-indoctrination) so it could all have started with nanites.

Nanites fast track to huskification and skips the whole "it's in your head" part

Husks *can be* a final stage but it's not like rana thanoptis turned into a husk. If Shep were injected with nanites, he wouldn't be indoctrinated, he would just be a husk.

Inhaling nanites might make their spread slower. In the end Shepard is turned into a husk anyway (Control/Synthesis).
If he chooses Destroy, according to IT none of this matters because he wakes up and you can consider swarms of nanites as a means to visualize indoctrination (but only outside of the dream, during the dream they should be considered as a concrete piece of technology).

They weren't nanites because Anderson was already under control before the wave appeared. 

Nanites clearly go after the subject's entire body like a swarm of bugs. Shepard would have been swatting at himself before he was paralized.

Also, how do you explain TIM's glowing hands?

Cybernetic augmentations.

And those Cybernetic Augmentations allow him to control who he wants around him. Why would he need Nanites?

TIM first spreads the nanites into the atmosphere and then is able to control the victims with his augmentations. It's as simple as it gets. 

Modifié par paxxton, 18 avril 2012 - 09:07 .

[SixG90]

[quote]SS2Dante wrote...

[quote]EpyonX3 wrote...

[quote]mrs.N7 wrote...

I think I found something that supports rebar in the breath scene. I've replayed the bomb mission on tuchanka, where there is a lot of rubble and REBAR. And this rebar is exacly like that from the ending scene, only at a low-res, and you can see rebar bended and spaced like in the breath scene... if someone can post pics about this I would be grateful, because I can't do it myself.[/quote]

Luckily I have a save file for the specific mission. Don't know why. What part specifically if you remember?

[/quote]

You can see it for the entire two missions, when you rescue the Primarch son and when you try to disable the bomb, just look around you. it's thick and bended, not thin, and it isn't in a grid of rebar. i found it when I took cover behind a low wall that had it, starded looking at it and got killed by a trooper 

Modifié par mrs.N7, 18 avril 2012 - 09:06 .

[SixG90]

BatmanTurian wrote...

mrs.N7 wrote...

I think I found something that supports rebar in the breath scene. I've replayed the bomb mission on tuchanka, where there is a lot of rubble and REBAR. And this rebar is exacly like that from the ending scene, only at a low-res, and you can see rebar bended and spaced like in the breath scene... if someone can post pics about this I would be grateful, because I can't do it myself.

I have a few. Source: http://www.cheatmast...ority:-tuchanka


http://www.cheatmast...81-1024x576.jpg

http://www.cheatmast...08-1024x576.jpg

Yes, what I saw was nearly the same!

[SS2Dante]

Ok, you won't believe this

Right here is where the whispering starts. It's when you walk in and see anderson, a second before TIM walks in.

http://www.youtube.c...fuWNkIUf0#t=28s

Now, moments after Anderson says "Shepard,..I can't" the camera cuts to Shepard with the illusive man behind him.

And you hear the TUM TUM of the Crucible decision music.

!?

[Bantz]

Allan, you and the other DA guys that have posted here are treading in troublesome waters with me. I want to ignore/avoid DA3 as much as possible (after what bioware did to ME3 it's hard to have any faith in the company). But the brief bit of info from pax and the great attitude you guys have had here are making me almost consider getting da3. Then again i'm sure it's much easier to come here and talk to us about videogames and theories when we aren't picking apart your brain child.

[llbountyhunter]

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So no one seems to be interested in discussing "swarms of nanites" from Sanctuary.

I thought someone pointed out that these nanites turn people into Husks?

Husk are in the final stage of indoctrination (post-indoctrination) so it could all have started with nanites.

Nanites fast track to huskification and skips the whole "it's in your head" part

Husks *can be* a final stage but it's not like rana thanoptis turned into a husk. If Shep were injected with nanites, he wouldn't be indoctrinated, he would just be a husk.

Inhaling nanites might make their spread slower. In the end Shepard is turned into a husk anyway (Control/Synthesis).
If he chooses Destroy, according to IT none of this matters because he wakes up and you can consider swarms of nanites as a means to visualize indoctrination (but only outside of the dream, during the dream they should be considered as a concrete piece of technology).

They weren't nanites because Anderson was already under control before the wave appeared. 

Nanites clearly go after the subject's entire body like a swarm of bugs. Shepard would have been swatting at himself before he was paralized.

Also, how do you explain TIM's glowing hands?

Cybernetic augmentations.

And those Cybernetic Augmentations allow him to control who he wants around him. Why would he need Nanites?

TIM first spreads the nanites into the atmosphere and then is able to control the victims with his augmentations. It's as simple as it gets. 

Don't worry I get it. Bioware simply cut the part where TIM sprayed nanites all over the room, then ran off to go hide and wait for Shepard and Anderson.

Makes perfect sense.

[EpyonX3]

I found those rebar give me a few minutes. But from what I saw, they don't look anything like the cables in the breathe scene.

[BatmanTurian]

EpyonX3 wrote...

I found those rebar give me a few minutes. But from what I saw, they don't look anything like the cables in the breathe scene.

to be fair, they're low resolution textures.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Also, where the hell did the gun come from? Anderson definitely didn't have it, and neither does TIM.

Anderson has that gun moments before the run to the citadel. After the laser, Shep picks it up, which makes no sense because Anderson was behind him.

This is another Bioware slip up. The only reason I believe this is because even in certain in game cinemtatics, you're given a gun you didn't carry into the mission. They could have just given it to you becuase any other gun wouldn't fit the final scenes.

The only reason it stands out to me is because this specific model is important to Shepard, It's the model that Mordin gives you in ME2, Anderson has it, and if you shoot Mordin on Tuchanka, you throw the gun away in disgust.

Also, it has the word caution on it, which us it'ers like to attribute as a warning about something. But I won't read to much into this for now.

[paxxton]

llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

paxxton wrote...

So no one seems to be interested in discussing "swarms of nanites" from Sanctuary.

I thought someone pointed out that these nanites turn people into Husks?

Husk are in the final stage of indoctrination (post-indoctrination) so it could all have started with nanites.

Nanites fast track to huskification and skips the whole "it's in your head" part

Husks *can be* a final stage but it's not like rana thanoptis turned into a husk. If Shep were injected with nanites, he wouldn't be indoctrinated, he would just be a husk.

Inhaling nanites might make their spread slower. In the end Shepard is turned into a husk anyway (Control/Synthesis).
If he chooses Destroy, according to IT none of this matters because he wakes up and you can consider swarms of nanites as a means to visualize indoctrination (but only outside of the dream, during the dream they should be considered as a concrete piece of technology).

They weren't nanites because Anderson was already under control before the wave appeared. 

Nanites clearly go after the subject's entire body like a swarm of bugs. Shepard would have been swatting at himself before he was paralized.

Also, how do you explain TIM's glowing hands?

Cybernetic augmentations.

And those Cybernetic Augmentations allow him to control who he wants around him. Why would he need Nanites?

TIM first spreads the nanites into the atmosphere and then is able to control the victims with his augmentations. It's as simple as it gets. 

Don't worry I get it. Bioware simply cut the part where TIM sprayed nanites all over the room, then ran off to go hide and wait for Shepard and Anderson.

Makes perfect sense.

No. He spitted nanite plasma.

[EpyonX3]

Krogan Rebar






Breathe Scene:






I don't see the similarities.

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

No. He spitted nanite plasma.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 18 avril 2012 - 09:22 .

[llbountyhunter]

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]llbountyhunter wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]EpyonX3 wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]EpyonX3 wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]balance5050 wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]SS2Dante wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

So no one seems to be interested in discussing "swarms of nanites" from Sanctuary.[/quote]

I thought someone pointed out that these nanites turn people into Husks?[/quote]

Husk are in the final stage of indoctrination (post-indoctrination) so it could all have started with nanites.
[/quote]

Nanites fast track to huskification and skips the whole "it's in your head" part

Husks *can be* a final stage but it's not like rana thanoptis turned into a husk. If Shep were injected with nanites, he wouldn't be indoctrinated, he would just be a husk.

[/quote]

Inhaling nanites might make their spread slower. In the end Shepard is turned into a husk anyway (Control/Synthesis).
If he chooses Destroy, according to IT none of this matters because he wakes up and you can consider swarms of nanites as a means to visualize indoctrination (but only outside of the dream, during the dream they should be considered as a concrete piece of technology).[/quote]

They weren't nanites because Anderson was already under control before the wave appeared. 

Nanites clearly go after the subject's entire body like a swarm of bugs. Shepard would have been swatting at himself before he was paralized.

Also, how do you explain TIM's glowing hands?[/quote]

Cybernetic augmentations.
[/quote]
And those Cybernetic Augmentations allow him to control who he wants around him. Why would he need Nanites?

[/quote]

TIM first spreads the nanites into the atmosphere and then is able to control the victims with his augmentations. It's as simple as it gets. [/quote]

Don't worry I get it. Bioware simply cut the part where TIM sprayed nanites all over the room, then ran off to go hide and wait for Shepard and Anderson.

Makes perfect sense.[/quote]

No. He spitted nanite plasma.
[/quote]

Ah. Of course... how silly of me.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Krogan Rebar

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Breathe Scene:
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I don't see the similarities.

I don't either.