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Found another pic. This one had a close up on the trees, they actually look holographics and see-through as opposed to being real trees at low res.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I knew this. Here:

http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg 


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Modifié par balance5050, 19 avril 2012 - 07:09 .


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Also found the actual antenna texture and it has 1M1 on one side only, this explains whay it's revered on the other side.

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Nothing to do with IT just an annoying inconsistency with the dialogue of Vega, when you talk to him at the Embassies he says Liara told him what happen and when you talk to him on the Normandy for the first time he asks how it with with the councillors.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I knew this. Here:

http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg 


 


Oh. Well shoot, I'm pretty late.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I knew this. Here:

http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg 


 


Oh. Well shoot, I'm pretty late.


No keep digging, I knew it from another thread so people here might not know.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I knew this. Here:

http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg 


 


Oh. Well shoot, I'm pretty late.


No keep digging, I knew it from another thread so people here might not know.


Oh yeah i'm still looking. Don't worry. ^_^

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I don't know what it means, but those trees are...odd.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I gotta say, the idea that the Citadel is shifting enough that its bringing random architecture from completely different areas to the decision area seems to be grasping at straws far harder than anything we've done.

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I gotta say, the idea that the Citadel is shifting enough that its bringing random architecture from completely different areas to the decision area seems to be grasping at straws far harder than anything we've done.


Paxxton's nanite theory is pretty close though :P

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I am a little depressed :( no one really cared about what I found :( everything moves so quick in this thread. *cry* I need a hug from Vega ... oh wait My only option is Kaiden dam!

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Rosewind wrote...

I am a little depressed :( no one really cared about what I found :( everything moves so quick in this thread. *cry* I need a hug from Vega ... oh wait My only option is Kaiden dam!


I know what you mean. I am active on this forum for a couple weeks now and often I made a quite good post and nobody even showed any reaction and just continued with something else. I was surprised I got an answer so quickly this time. But it can get a little frustrating.

Modifié par Storm258, 19 avril 2012 - 07:22 .


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Rosewind wrote...

I am a little depressed :( no one really cared about what I found :( everything moves so quick in this thread. *cry* I need a hug from Vega ... oh wait My only option is Kaiden dam!


Quote yourself! Important stuff sometimes slides.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I knew this. Here:

http://i.imgur.com/RIIzj.jpg 


 


Oh. Well shoot, I'm pretty late.


No keep digging, I knew it from another thread so people here might not know.


Oh yeah i'm still looking. Don't worry. ^_^


Hmm. I take it this isn't the texture actually used?

Also, is that a glitch. that the green ending is all pixelated and blurry? Or was it meant to be like that?

Edit - also, I think we can all imagine why they would remove the trees. Who would have played this and taken it seriously if they'd been there :P

Modifié par SS2Dante, 19 avril 2012 - 07:25 .


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I know right and it was something pointing out more weirdness about the starkid at the start of them game haven't seen anyone mention it before either to.

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SS2Dante wrote...


Hmm. I take it this isn't the texture actually used?

Also, is that a glitch. that the green ending is all pixelated and blurry? Or was it meant to be like that?

Edit - also, I think we can all imagine why they would remove the trees. Who would have played this and taken it seriously if they'd been there :P


The specific pics I put up are cubemaps so I think they'd used for a reflection at the very best. That said, if they were going to give subtle hints a reflection would be the right place. 

I don't know if these are actually used in the game as is however.

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balance5050 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


Hmm. I take it this isn't the texture actually used?

Also, is that a glitch. that the green ending is all pixelated and blurry? Or was it meant to be like that?

Edit - also, I think we can all imagine why they would remove the trees. Who would have played this and taken it seriously if they'd been there :P


The specific pics I put up are cubemaps so I think they'd used for a reflection at the very best. That said, if they were going to give subtle hints a reflection would be the right place. 

I don't know if these are actually used in the game as is however.


Ah right. And yeah, I imagine if they were actually used one of us would have picked up on them.

There's a difference between the area...behind the player? When the platforms are raised and lowered. I wonder what that's about :S

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Everything about the end is odd. Adding dreamy trees (or glowing Council Chamber trees or combination thereof) would simply accentuate it.

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This is still odd. This is apparently on the citedal between the time you get to the control panel until the very end.

The file name is: AncKro_StoneTile_02_Diff

The ancient city on Tuchanka.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

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This is still odd. This is apparently on the citedal between the time you get to the control panel until the very end.

The file name is: AncKro_StoneTile_02_Diff

The ancient city on Tuchanka.


Do we know all the textures in  the folder are actually used? And I take it you haven't come across this one in your flycam :P

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By the way, isn't this little detective game great? I may have spent about as much time playing this as ME3 :P

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EpyonX3 wrote...

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This is still odd. This is apparently on the citedal between the time you get to the control panel until the very end.

The file name is: AncKro_StoneTile_02_Diff

The ancient city on Tuchanka.


This random asset stuff is just serving to confuse me at this point.

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shocking Discovery!

The decision chamber may have had trees initially. I found a pic inside of the texture files showing very low res trees around the edges. These trees are named presidium trees.

Now before you guys go on dream mode let me say that those tree could have been shifted there from the presidium just like the antenna.

In either case, looks like Bioware wanted to have the end feel much more trippy than it did.


I gotta say, the idea that the Citadel is shifting enough that its bringing random architecture from completely different areas to the decision area seems to be grasping at straws far harder than anything we've done.


It's fine if you believe that but I don't see it as being that big of a stretch. Especially if we see it happening as were up there.

The positioning of the antennas also hint at how they were meant to be there but weren't there before.

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Rosewind wrote...

I am a little depressed :( no one really cared about what I found :( everything moves so quick in this thread. *cry* I need a hug from Vega ... oh wait My only option is Kaiden dam!


I know what you mean. I am active on this forum for a couple weeks now and often I made a quite good post and nobody even showed any reaction and just continued with something else. I was surprised I got an answer so quickly this time. But it can get a little frustrating.


The forum is FTL and this thread in particular is a bit of a quagmire by virtue of its size and scope.  I posted something I called Indoctrination Theory Lite about a week ago and was disappointed that it received almost no attention.

....of course, now I'm glad it got buried.  I don't think I want a compromised version of IT.

Meanwhile, this thread needs to be fully distilled and organized somehow.  It's just so much text, though... we about need a VI to do it for us.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

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This is still odd. This is apparently on the citedal between the time you get to the control panel until the very end.

The file name is: AncKro_StoneTile_02_Diff

The ancient city on Tuchanka.


This random asset stuff is just serving to confuse me at this point.


Well there's also a thessia asset in the same package.

This is a big red flag to me. I don't know if I mentioned this to you before but I think the EC was actually removed from the game and they left very small peices behind.

It's too much of a coincedence that two plantes mentioned in that fake leak have textures from those planets on the last level.

How fast Bioware reacted to dismiss it is also odd, being that they've ben pretty tight lipped about almost every other rumor and theory, including IT.