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I heard him sing in ME2 :D So maybe thats why..

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byne wrote...

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Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


conrads little mission was also very memorable.. 


I liked when you talked to Conrad and he says he doesnt have any family.

Shep: "What about your wife?"
Conrad: "Oh, right."
Shep: "Conrad, do you even have a wife?"
Conrad says "Yes. Yes of course I do. Absolutely.... Well, ok no."
Shep: "Conrad, I swear, if you have some sort of weird shrine to me, I'm going to be very upset."
Conrad: "Oh no no no. Its very tasteful. Just a picture and some candles."

I also liked when Conrad forgot what questions he'd already asked from his dialogue wheel, and asked the same question twice in a row because "I like to ask all the questions I can, and sometimes I forget the ones I've asked already."



I remeber in me2 

shepard; "and your family is ok with you just searching around the galaxy?"
conrad: "oh yes, my wife was ver supportive, she even paid for my off-world shuttle fair!"
*bartender shakes head hopelessly in background*

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Eli Parker wrote...

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Well, I just made an unfortunate discovery. Remember I mentioned how I was just going through Tuchanka again? Well, as it turns out, I forgot to listen to all of Matriarch Aethyta's dialogue with Liara. So, I have to go back to the save I have before the mission and I'm going to have to replay all of the Genophage cure mission again. Those Ravager encounters really SUCK on Insanity.


I liked looking into the Krogen's past culture.


Yeah, that was pretty cool.  Still, I put in all of that hard work, and now I have to wait to replay until tomorrow. :crying:
 

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, I just made an unfortunate discovery. Remember I mentioned how I was just going through Tuchanka again? Well, as it turns out, I forgot to listen to all of Matriarch Aethyta's dialogue with Liara. So, I have to go back to the save I have before the mission and I'm going to have to replay all of the Genophage cure mission again. Those Ravager encounters really SUCK on Insanity.


Just look up her dialogue on youtube. As long as you at least got Liara to talk to her you got the War Asset she gives.

Also, Ravagers were super easy for me on insanity.

Then again, I was a Vanguard, so most things were super easy.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


conrads little mission was also very memorable.. 


I liked when you talked to Conrad and he says he doesnt have any family.

Shep: "What about your wife?"
Conrad: "Oh, right."
Shep: "Conrad, do you even have a wife?"
Conrad says "Yes. Yes of course I do. Absolutely.... Well, ok no."
Shep: "Conrad, I swear, if you have some sort of weird shrine to me, I'm going to be very upset."
Conrad: "Oh no no no. Its very tasteful. Just a picture and some candles."

I also liked when Conrad forgot what questions he'd already asked from his dialogue wheel, and asked the same question twice in a row because "I like to ask all the questions I can, and sometimes I forget the ones I've asked already."



I remeber in me2 

shepard; "and your family is ok with you just searching around the galaxy?"
conrad: "oh yes, my wife was ver supportive, she even paid for my off-world shuttle fair!"
*bartender shakes head hopelessly in background*


In ME 3 I got to speak to Conrad once and he took a bullet that never went off.

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 Although this makes a butt ton of sense and answers questions, would you really want your hero to turn into the enemy that you have been fighting against the whole time. All of your efforts from Mass Effect 3 would be pointless. Which would mean they would need another game. That my opinion although indoctrination theory seems most viable at this point.

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byne wrote...

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I want to see him sing.... :(



He didn't sing for you? I thought he sings in every case.. maybe it depends on your alignment..


no, I went paragon though...

he ended with "genoghage cured, krogan free- an new future- for all of us-"




Here's a video of him singing.

To get it you have to have talked to him enough to hear him sing in ME2.



I remember him singing in me2 though...:(

maybe I got switched up with my character saves or something....

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byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.

Modifié par ConVito, 20 avril 2012 - 03:15 .


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ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


Shep didn't say I love you back and that was wrong.

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Well if the indoctrination theory is true - Bioware pulled the biggest and highest risk ending ever. Nobody would be able to talk about it before, but if it is released - its a touchstone event. Nobody had done it before, and it would be talked about for years to come.

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ZerebusPrime wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Well, I just made an unfortunate discovery. Remember I mentioned how I was just going through Tuchanka again? Well, as it turns out, I forgot to listen to all of Matriarch Aethyta's dialogue with Liara. So, I have to go back to the save I have before the mission and I'm going to have to replay all of the Genophage cure mission again. Those Ravager encounters really SUCK on Insanity.


It's on Youtube.

And it's just a loop conversation.  Save yourself the headache.


Yeah, but I want to have EVERYTHING done.  ME is the only series I'm obsessed with getting 100% on.  Well, 100% when you're only playing one type of morality and not going to look for EVERY SINGLE RESOURCE in ME1.  I got lucky, though.  It turned out that through some twist of fate in ME1 I managed to get all quests completed.  Didn't get all resources, but I got all quests completed including the collection ones.

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ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


I played through her romance twice. I just didnt really care too much for it.

Probably because I liked her in ME2 since she was shy and awkward. Or as TV Tropes would put it, Adorkable.

Talking about her relationship with Shep and flirting with him in front of complete strangers didnt really seem to fit her.

Also, the "I love you!" line was ruined by Shepard thinking he could pull off acting like Han Solo.

And he cant. MaleShep is nowhere near as cool as Han Solo.

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byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


I played through her romance twice. I just didnt really care too much for it.

Probably because I liked her in ME2 since she was shy and awkward. Or as TV Tropes would put it, Adorkable.

Talking about her relationship with Shep and flirting with him in front of complete strangers didnt really seem to fit her.

Also, the "I love you!" line was ruined by Shepard thinking he could pull off acting like Han Solo.

And he cant. MaleShep is nowhere near as cool as Han Solo.


i think theres a romance for everone in mass effect 3...... (only wierdos romanced the reporter though.)

my personal favorite was jack.


-at the dance floor-

jack; "shpard everybody knows you cant dance!"
shpard: *silence*

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 20 avril 2012 - 03:27 .


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llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


I played through her romance twice. I just didnt really care too much for it.

Probably because I liked her in ME2 since she was shy and awkward. Or as TV Tropes would put it, Adorkable.

Talking about her relationship with Shep and flirting with him in front of complete strangers didnt really seem to fit her.

Also, the "I love you!" line was ruined by Shepard thinking he could pull off acting like Han Solo.

And he cant. MaleShep is nowhere near as cool as Han Solo.


i think theres a romance for everone in mass effect 3...... (only wierdos romanced the reporter though.)

my personal favorite was jack.


I want the romance since to be like Mass Effect 1 again, with tasteful nudes.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


I played through her romance twice. I just didnt really care too much for it.

Probably because I liked her in ME2 since she was shy and awkward. Or as TV Tropes would put it, Adorkable.

Talking about her relationship with Shep and flirting with him in front of complete strangers didnt really seem to fit her.

Also, the "I love you!" line was ruined by Shepard thinking he could pull off acting like Han Solo.

And he cant. MaleShep is nowhere near as cool as Han Solo.


i think theres a romance for everone in mass effect 3...... (only wierdos romanced the reporter though.)

my personal favorite was jack.


-at the dance floor-

jack; "shpard everybody knows you cant dance!"
shpard: *silence*


Yeah, my favorites were Liara and Jack-Paragon. And my femShep's flying solo. Everyone's different.

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Eli Parker wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


I played through her romance twice. I just didnt really care too much for it.

Probably because I liked her in ME2 since she was shy and awkward. Or as TV Tropes would put it, Adorkable.

Talking about her relationship with Shep and flirting with him in front of complete strangers didnt really seem to fit her.

Also, the "I love you!" line was ruined by Shepard thinking he could pull off acting like Han Solo.

And he cant. MaleShep is nowhere near as cool as Han Solo.


i think theres a romance for everone in mass effect 3...... (only wierdos romanced the reporter though.)

my personal favorite was jack.


I want the romance since to be like Mass Effect 1 again, with tasteful nudes.


I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.

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byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

That was one of the best moments in any game EVER.


That and tali's romance.


I liked Tali's romance in ME2, but it was somewhat disappointing in ME3.

Honestly, they were all kind of disappointing in ME3.

Liara's romance from LotSB is still my favorite romance scene in any of the three games.


I almost get the feeling you didn't play through Tali's romance in ME3. It was beautiful and brilliant. One of my biggest complaints about romances in video games is how they're so unnatural, and this one felt perfect in that regard. The flirting, playing off each other, you could tell these were two lovers but also two best friends. And need I even bother bringing up Tali's "I love you!" line?

By the way don't take this the wrong way, I don't mean to sound mean.


I played through her romance twice. I just didnt really care too much for it.

Probably because I liked her in ME2 since she was shy and awkward. Or as TV Tropes would put it, Adorkable.

Talking about her relationship with Shep and flirting with him in front of complete strangers didnt really seem to fit her.

Also, the "I love you!" line was ruined by Shepard thinking he could pull off acting like Han Solo.

And he cant. MaleShep is nowhere near as cool as Han Solo.


Oh no you didn't! (does the finger snapping thing)  ManShep is AWESOME.  May I direct you to this video?  

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Dwailing wrote...

I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.


I saw that on youtube and it made no sense. That shower was a private shower, and no the common shower and even then... I dunno what Bioware was thinking the game is rated M.

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Dwailing wrote...

I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.


Liara gets naked in her scene.

Shepard stayed in a bra and panties though, which was odd.

Also, Traynor taking a shower in her underwear isnt as crazy as when my Shep got in with her while still wearing her N7 hoodie.

THATS A SPECIAL EDITION HOODIE ONLY ISSUED TO N7 OPERATIVES AFTER LIKE 5 YEARS IN THE PROGRAM, SHEPARD, TREAT IT BETTER!

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Oh no you didn't! (does the finger snapping thing)  ManShep is AWESOME.  May I direct you to this video?  


*shrug*

Maybe I'd like MaleShep if the person who played him actually put effort into emoting. Or could act at all.

Oh yeah, I went there.

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byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.


Liara gets naked in her scene.

Shepard stayed in a bra and panties though, which was odd.

Also, Traynor taking a shower in her underwear isnt as crazy as when my Shep got in with her while still wearing her N7 hoodie.

THATS A SPECIAL EDITION HOODIE ONLY ISSUED TO N7 OPERATIVES AFTER LIKE 5 YEARS IN THE PROGRAM, SHEPARD, TREAT IT BETTER!


lol really a hoodie? I stopped when I saw Traynor in her underwear, also she should have been bi as I wanted to romance her (something about her voice is cute).

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byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.


Liara gets naked in her scene.

Shepard stayed in a bra and panties though, which was odd.

Also, Traynor taking a shower in her underwear isnt as crazy as when my Shep got in with her while still wearing her N7 hoodie.

THATS A SPECIAL EDITION HOODIE ONLY ISSUED TO N7 OPERATIVES AFTER LIKE 5 YEARS IN THE PROGRAM, SHEPARD, TREAT IT BETTER!


we need to start a new petition.

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Eli Parker wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.


Liara gets naked in her scene.

Shepard stayed in a bra and panties though, which was odd.

Also, Traynor taking a shower in her underwear isnt as crazy as when my Shep got in with her while still wearing her N7 hoodie.

THATS A SPECIAL EDITION HOODIE ONLY ISSUED TO N7 OPERATIVES AFTER LIKE 5 YEARS IN THE PROGRAM, SHEPARD, TREAT IT BETTER!


lol really a hoodie? I stopped when I saw Traynor in her underwear, also she should have been bi as I wanted to romance her (something about her voice is cute).


Well then you should have played FemShep as god intended.

To be serious though, FemShep seems to me to make more sense as the canon character.

On Eden Prime, if you're MaleShep, Kaidan is all 'An actual working piece of Prothean technology! Unbelievable! I have now immediately lost interest in this, and instead, Ashley, who has shown no interest in it at all until this point, is going to go examine it!'

lolwut?

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byne wrote...

Eli Parker wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I agree.  And it's not for any carnal pleasure, it's just that much more realistic.  The one that got me the most was when Traynor took a shower IN HER UNDERWEAR!  That's just crazy.


Liara gets naked in her scene.

Shepard stayed in a bra and panties though, which was odd.

Also, Traynor taking a shower in her underwear isnt as crazy as when my Shep got in with her while still wearing her N7 hoodie.

THATS A SPECIAL EDITION HOODIE ONLY ISSUED TO N7 OPERATIVES AFTER LIKE 5 YEARS IN THE PROGRAM, SHEPARD, TREAT IT BETTER!


lol really a hoodie? I stopped when I saw Traynor in her underwear, also she should have been bi as I wanted to romance her (something about her voice is cute).


Well then you should have played FemShep as god intended.

To be serious though, FemShep seems to me to make more sense as the canon character.

On Eden Prime, if you're MaleShep, Kaidan is all 'An actual working piece of Prothean technology! Unbelievable! I have now immediately lost interest in this, and instead, Ashley, who has shown no interest in it at all until this point, is going to go examine it!'

lolwut?


I would like to have Traynor and Tali as LIs.

Yea at the mission at Eden Prime, Bioware wanted to force a romance with Kaidan or Ash. 

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Eli Parker wrote...

I would like to have Traynor and Tali as LIs.

Yea at the mission at Eden Prime, Bioware wanted to force a romance with Kaidan or Ash. 


Well that didnt work too well, since Kaidan ate a nuke on Virmire and I had already rejected him for Liara. :D

Also, Tali/FemShep in ME2 would have been pretty awesome.

Makes me mad that they had some of the lines recorded for it, and just chose not to actually include it in the game.

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