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[Sammuthegreat]

lex0r, you never fail to deliver the goods.

I guess we could discuss which animal-machine hybrid would be most useful in everyday life. My vote is for the bear-copter.

[EpyonX3]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

*snip*

The most compelling evidence in regards to that warning is that it is used NOWHERE else. It completely shreds the "Bioware is lazy" argument most people use to dispel IT. They made it specifically for that scene and that close up. Why?

We're 100% positive this warning sign can not be found anywhere else in the game?

This is the only time I've seen a vent in the game. It would make sense that if this label were for vents then we wouldn't see it anymore.

The problem I have is that people are saying that Bioware specifically put that sticker there to show that the vent itself was dangerous. Due to housing electrical wires, fans and such. But why even put that there? Why would we care if the vent was dangerous or not? If there goal was to make it realistic.. why would there be a need to a danger sign next to an open vent...a vent that should be closed and prevented from being opened at all (if the technology is so amazing)

How do you know that the kid didn't open the vent?

[Hawk227]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

...aaaaand just like that, the thread has ground to a halt.

Quick! Someone find something IT-related to talk about!

Okay!

So, I'm replaying ME2 and last night I finished Lair of the shadow broker. Once you've beaten the Yahg and get a chance to talk to Liara she says that the Shadow Broker had been looking heavily into the Protheans, like he was hoping they had another weapon against the reapers.

That strikes me as a foreshadow of the crucible (It's Liara after all that finds the plans, right?). So if they were foreshadowing ME3 as early as LotSB, doesn't that kind of reinforce the importance of Object Rho in Arrival?

[LumbercracK]

The reality is thusfar. either
1-IT is real. Bioware has lied to us. The ending is completely false. They punish players who trust them and EC will **** your game up because now what.

Honestly i dont pick destroy because im a geth sympathizer. Does IT mean i fail because i dont agree with the idea of killing synthetic life?

2- IT was not intended and is a result of very poor focus to detail in the final scenes followed by an unsatisfactory ending. This happens allot with big works. Harry Potter had a theory about Neville longbottom being the true hero. If bioware ever caves into IT then it will ruin the series as it is an adjustment to the story to explain things that shouldnt be there. It doesnt make the story better at all. All it does is Remove the ending and replace it with absence.

For refrence lets take a look at a random example. Neon Genesis Evangellion. The end takes place in the heros mind. The following sequel movies are so disjointed and confusing that noone really knows what is going on. It has been the subject for debate for the longest time. Finally The have begun remaking the entire thing to "Clarify" the story.

IT doesnt fix mass effect it just breaks all the inconsistencies off and leaves an unfinished work.

[Ravel1992]

LumbercracK wrote...


For refrence lets take a look at a random example. Neon Genesis Evangellion. The end takes place in the heros mind. The following sequel movies are so disjointed and confusing that noone really knows what is going on. It has been the subject for debate for the longest time. Finally The have begun remaking the entire thing to "Clarify" the story.

Rebuilds are sequels to original NGE. 

[Tirian Thorn]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

lex0r, you never fail to deliver the goods.

I guess we could discuss which animal-machine hybrid would be most useful in everyday life. My vote is for the bear-copter.

I like that. 

I could go for a pig that dispenses strips of pre-cooked bacon. 

[Iconoclaste]

Ravel1992 wrote...

LumbercracK wrote...


For refrence lets take a look at a random example. Neon Genesis Evangellion. The end takes place in the heros mind. The following sequel movies are so disjointed and confusing that noone really knows what is going on. It has been the subject for debate for the longest time. Finally The have begun remaking the entire thing to "Clarify" the story.

Rebuilds are sequels to original NGE. 

I understand his point used as comparison.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 20 avril 2012 - 07:15 .

[SS2Dante]

LumbercracK wrote...

The reality is thusfar. either
1-IT is real. Bioware has lied to us. The ending is completely false. They punish players who trust them and EC will **** your game up because now what.

Honestly i dont pick destroy because im a geth sympathizer. Does IT mean i fail because i dont agree with the idea of killing synthetic life?

2- IT was not intended and is a result of very poor focus to detail in the final scenes followed by an unsatisfactory ending. This happens allot with big works. Harry Potter had a theory about Neville longbottom being the true hero. If bioware ever caves into IT then it will ruin the series as it is an adjustment to the story to explain things that shouldnt be there. It doesnt make the story better at all. All it does is Remove the ending and replace it with absence.

For refrence lets take a look at a random example. Neon Genesis Evangellion. The end takes place in the heros mind. The following sequel movies are so disjointed and confusing that noone really knows what is going on. It has been the subject for debate for the longest time. Finally The have begun remaking the entire thing to "Clarify" the story.

IT doesnt fix mass effect it just breaks all the inconsistencies off and leaves an unfinished work.

IT does not "punish you". It gives you a chance to understand how indoctrination happens by experiencing it first hand. The game will presumably let you load up your last save before the crucible for the EC.

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Finally, your point about Harry Potter? That's because the prophecy COULD have referred to Neville, so if Voldemort had killed NEVILLES parents instead of Harry's then killing Voldemort would be on Neville, not Harry. Voldemort did not pick Neville, so that's not the case, hence people saying the books COULD have been about Neville.

Modifié par SS2Dante, 20 avril 2012 - 07:18 .

[SS2Dante]

LumbercracK wrote...

The reality is thusfar. either
1-IT is real. Bioware has lied to us. The ending is completely false. They punish players who trust them and EC will **** your game up because now what.

Honestly i dont pick destroy because im a geth sympathizer. Does IT mean i fail because i dont agree with the idea of killing synthetic life?

2- IT was not intended and is a result of very poor focus to detail in the final scenes followed by an unsatisfactory ending. This happens allot with big works. Harry Potter had a theory about Neville longbottom being the true hero. If bioware ever caves into IT then it will ruin the series as it is an adjustment to the story to explain things that shouldnt be there. It doesnt make the story better at all. All it does is Remove the ending and replace it with absence.

For refrence lets take a look at a random example. Neon Genesis Evangellion. The end takes place in the heros mind. The following sequel movies are so disjointed and confusing that noone really knows what is going on. It has been the subject for debate for the longest time. Finally The have begun remaking the entire thing to "Clarify" the story.

IT doesnt fix mass effect it just breaks all the inconsistencies off and leaves an unfinished work.

Double post! oops

Modifié par SS2Dante, 20 avril 2012 - 07:22 .

[Gilgamesh117]

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Speaking about crossovers:

Spiral Effect

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Omg I'm totally geeking out right now. 

Modifié par Gilgamesh117, 20 avril 2012 - 08:39 .

[Simon_Says]

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I'm replaying ME2 and last night I finished Lair of the shadow broker. Once you've beaten the Yahg and get a chance to talk to Liara she says that the Shadow Broker had been looking heavily into the Protheans, like he was hoping they had another weapon against the reapers.

That strikes me as a foreshadow of the crucible (It's Liara after all that finds the plans, right?). So if they were foreshadowing ME3 as early as LotSB, doesn't that kind of reinforce the importance of Object Rho in Arrival?

Not to mention in Overlord, we get to see what happens when you try to plug in a human mind in an effort to control alien synthetic intelligences.

"It all seemed harmless."

[LumbercracK]

The Fact is you cant name 1 good work of art that centers around the idea that the climax doesnt acctually happen.
There are peices that take place in the protagonists mind but they are one of the following:

EVERYTHING is just in his head. The conflict and the climax. ergo you have a journey and a conclusion but none of it happened therefore not being left with an unsolved problem.

A false climax occurs in someones head and they use said experience to create a better climax.

The ending is cast in doubt as to weather or not its real for shock value.

[Iconoclaste]

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

[balance5050]

Simon_Says wrote...

Hawk227 wrote...

So, I'm replaying ME2 and last night I finished Lair of the shadow broker. Once you've beaten the Yahg and get a chance to talk to Liara she says that the Shadow Broker had been looking heavily into the Protheans, like he was hoping they had another weapon against the reapers.

That strikes me as a foreshadow of the crucible (It's Liara after all that finds the plans, right?). So if they were foreshadowing ME3 as early as LotSB, doesn't that kind of reinforce the importance of Object Rho in Arrival?

Not to mention in Overlord, we get to see what happens when you try to plug in a human mind in an effort to control alien synthetic intelligences.

"It all seemed harmless."

Yeah, as if we needed more reasons to believe that controlling the reapers is ALWAYS a bad idea.

OH WAIT! A little ghost kid told you that all you had to do is die first, so I guess it's ok <_<

[balance5050]

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.

Modifié par balance5050, 20 avril 2012 - 07:24 .

[SS2Dante]

LumbercracK wrote...

The Fact is you cant name 1 good work of art that centers around the idea that the climax doesnt acctually happen.
There are peices that take place in the protagonists mind but they are one of the following:

EVERYTHING is just in his head. The conflict and the climax. ergo you have a journey and a conclusion but none of it happened therefore not being left with an unsolved problem.

A false climax occurs in someones head and they use said experience to create a better climax.

The ending is cast in doubt as to weather or not its real for shock value.

The point is that the climax hasn't happened yet. DLC. It's the equivalent of the first hour of the 6th sense or whatever twist movie comparison you want.

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.

Careful now, he'll report ya

[llbountyhunter]

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Yeah... why Don't book titles sometimes Mach there contents?

[Iconoclaste]

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.

Reported.

[Rosewind]

Random Thought: OMFG Asari don't have ears lol I only just noticed that after 3 games.

[balance5050]

Iconoclaste wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.

Reported.

Are you serious?

"Is this guy serious?"

I just like talking about Mass Effect man, not trying to hurt your feelings.

[balance5050]

SS2Dante wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.

Careful now, he'll report ya

Guess I wasn't careful enough 

[Sammuthegreat]

SS2Dante wrote...
Careful now, he'll report ya

You can see the future!!!

Tell me - is Indoctrination Theory true?

[MaximizedAction]

As I wrote, don't feed the troll.

@Iconoclaste, if you want to participate in a healthy and dynamic discussion, then please do so and don't nickpick and mess with the IT zen!
Otherwise you fall into the category of a troll. Feel free to prove me otherwise! ^^

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 20 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[SS2Dante]

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.

Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?

Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.

Reported.

Are you serious?

"Is this guy serious?"

I just like talking about Mass Effect man, not trying to hurt your feelings.

Heeey, I was right! I get a cookie?