You command discussion here?MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, don't feed the troll.
@Iconoclaste, if you want to participate in a healthy and dynamic discussion, then please do so and don't nickpick and mess with the IT zen!
Otherwise you fall into the category of a troll. Feel free to prove me otherwise! ^^
Was the ending a hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory
#40301
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:37
#40302
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:37
SS2Dante wrote...
Heeey, I was right! I get a cookie?
I think you have a gift! Here's an internet cookie.
*Hands over cookie*
#40303
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:38
balance5050 wrote...
Iconoclaste wrote...
Reported.balance5050 wrote...
Iconoclaste wrote...
Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?SS2Dante wrote...
Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.
Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.
Are you serious?
"Is this guy serious?"
I just like talking about Mass Effect man, not trying to hurt your feelings.
LOL!!!
#40304
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:38
#40305
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:40
balance5050 wrote...
SS2Dante wrote...
Heeey, I was right! I get a cookie?
I think you have a gift! Here's an internet cookie.
*Hands over cookie*
Whoop!
#40306
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:45
Why was it scrapped? If it really was/will be, then have the clues we found all just remnants of that original indoctrination plan? Would having worked on it before strengthen the case for finally implementing it now?
#40307
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:46
Simon_Says wrote...
I don't know if it's been covered before, but I recall somewhere that someone on the ME team said that implementing indoctrination into ME3's plot was originally worked on and then scrapped.
Why was it scrapped? If it really was/will be, then have the clues we found all just remnants of that original indoctrination plan? Would having worked on it before strengthen the case for finally implementing it now?
It wa scrapped as a gameplay mechanic where you lost control of Shepard, however that does not exclude what we discuss.
#40308
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:47
Simon_Says wrote...
I don't know if it's been covered before, but I recall somewhere that someone on the ME team said that implementing indoctrination into ME3's plot was originally worked on and then scrapped.
Why was it scrapped? If it really was/will be, then have the clues we found all just remnants of that original indoctrination plan? Would having worked on it before strengthen the case for finally implementing it now?
The statement was that they were going to have a section where the player lost control of shepard when shepard wa completely indoctrinated. It was dropped because "the new gameplay mechanic was too difficult to implement" (or something like that), so it was dropped.
What this shows is that they had the idea, but it's wouldn't be done with any new gameplay mechanics. Sounds familiar?
#40309
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:48
I was going through the audio files. and found this.
end001_final_run_trouble_c_D_Int.14.ogg
Let me say that everything previous to this are the sounds of the radio chatter that occurs as you wake up after you get hit by Harby.
What's so special about this file? Well It's Anderson speaking to....JOKER!
He says Joker, great timing! The rest are small parts of Joker talking to Anderson.
Joker: "Ah late to the party but the girls are coming with me. Now get the hell on there so we can end this."
Joker: "That was for Cortez!"
Then I scrolled up a bit and after the banter, A man Scream go fall back get out of here. He sounds like Shepard! He told his squad mates to go before the beam hit him.
I guarantee you this is how it will go. EC was planned but probably was not going to be free.
#40310
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:50
#40311
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:50
EpyonX3 wrote...
WTFUNK??
I was going through the audio files. and found this.
end001_final_run_trouble_c_D_Int.14.ogg
Let me say that everything previous to this are the sounds of the radio chatter that occurs as you wake up after you get hit by Harby.
What's so special about this file? Well It's Anderson speaking to....JOKER!
He says Joker, great timing! The rest are small parts of Joker talking to Anderson.
Joker: "Ah late to the party but the girls are coming with me. Now get the hell on there so we can end this."
Joker: "That was for Cortez!"
Then I scrolled up a bit and after the banter, A man Scream go fall back get out of here. He sounds like Shepard! He told his squad mates to go before the beam hit him.
I guarantee you this is how it will go. EC was planned but probably was not going to be free.
Well well well.
Wait, why the assumption about it not being free?
#40312
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:52
SS2Dante wrote...
Simon_Says wrote...
I
don't know if it's been covered before, but I recall somewhere that
someone on the ME team said that implementing indoctrination into ME3's
plot was originally worked on and then scrapped.
Why was it
scrapped? If it really was/will be, then have the clues we found all
just remnants of that original indoctrination plan? Would having worked
on it before strengthen the case for finally implementing it
now?
The statement was that they were going to have a
section where the player lost control of shepard when shepard wa
completely indoctrinated. It was dropped because "the new gameplay
mechanic was too difficult to implement" (or something like that), so it
was dropped.
What this shows is that they had the idea, but it's wouldn't be done with any new gameplay mechanics. Sounds familiar?
Whelp. Now I can't read that any other way than that Bioware realized the value and required care of indoctrination as a narrative device. More evidence that Bioware isn't incompetent.
Modifié par Simon_Says, 20 avril 2012 - 07:53 .
#40313
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:53
There's a possibility that harbinger never makes it to earth. I remember seeing that Leaked plot point chart for ME3. It was true and Bioware either took it out of the game or changed it!
#40314
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:53
SS2Dante wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
WTFUNK??
I was going through the audio files. and found this.
end001_final_run_trouble_c_D_Int.14.ogg
Let me say that everything previous to this are the sounds of the radio chatter that occurs as you wake up after you get hit by Harby.
What's so special about this file? Well It's Anderson speaking to....JOKER!
He says Joker, great timing! The rest are small parts of Joker talking to Anderson.
Joker: "Ah late to the party but the girls are coming with me. Now get the hell on there so we can end this."
Joker: "That was for Cortez!"
Then I scrolled up a bit and after the banter, A man Scream go fall back get out of here. He sounds like Shepard! He told his squad mates to go before the beam hit him.
I guarantee you this is how it will go. EC was planned but probably was not going to be free.
Well well well.
Wait, why the assumption about it not being free?
See my comment below that one.
Modifié par EpyonX3, 20 avril 2012 - 07:53 .
#40315
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:54
EpyonX3 wrote...
They're even files of Anderson saying either several reapers, several soverign class reapers and server sovereign class reapser including harbinger broke off their battle with sword and are headed here.
There's a possibility that harbinger never makes it to earth. I remember seeing that Leaked plot point chart for ME3. It was true and Bioware either took it out of the game or changed it!
I wonder if that would have been to do with your EMS?
#40316
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:55
SS2Dante wrote...
Well well well.
Wait, why the assumption about it not being free?
Cause it's frikken EA, remember? If Capcom is charging for 'true ending' dlc, I can't imagine EA not coming up with the idea themselves.
#40317
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:56
balance5050 wrote...
Iconoclaste wrote...
Reported.balance5050 wrote...
Iconoclaste wrote...
Why is this thread called ''Was the ending a hallucination?'' then?SS2Dante wrote...
Furthermore, IT is not all about the final scenes. The "poor attention to detail" you reference cannot be the case because they had to put more work in to get the game to appear as it does than they would have when being lazy. I can't be bothered going into the full argument, I'm sure others will.
Wow, arguing semantics is a clear sign of a troll. If you had any knowledge about how IT works you would realise how silly you seem right now.
Are you serious?
"Is this guy serious?"
I just like talking about Mass Effect man, not trying to hurt your feelings.
I hope in the future you won't be so callous and call someone "silly" ever again.
Reported for that? That is the biggest bunch of crap ever... LOL.
#40318
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:57
EpyonX3 wrote...
WTFUNK??
I was going through the audio files. and found this.
end001_final_run_trouble_c_D_Int.14.ogg
Let me say that everything previous to this are the sounds of the radio chatter that occurs as you wake up after you get hit by Harby.
What's so special about this file? Well It's Anderson speaking to....JOKER!
He says Joker, great timing! The rest are small parts of Joker talking to Anderson.
Joker: "Ah late to the party but the girls are coming with me. Now get the hell on there so we can end this."
Joker: "That was for Cortez!"
Then I scrolled up a bit and after the banter, A man Scream go fall back get out of here. He sounds like Shepard! He told his squad mates to go before the beam hit him.
I guarantee you this is how it will go. EC was planned but probably was not going to be free.
Well well, Epyonx. Do I sense that you've been converted?
In fairness though, this isn't new. Check it out.
Interesting how the second one says that Shepard wakes up with a bit of metal sticking through his leg. In the breath scene, it's always looked to me like there's a bit of metal rebar (NOTE: NOT REAPER CABLE. I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED THIS) sticking through his leg...
#40319
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:59
Sammuthegreat wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
WTFUNK??
I was going through the audio files. and found this.
end001_final_run_trouble_c_D_Int.14.ogg
Let me say that everything previous to this are the sounds of the radio chatter that occurs as you wake up after you get hit by Harby.
What's so special about this file? Well It's Anderson speaking to....JOKER!
He says Joker, great timing! The rest are small parts of Joker talking to Anderson.
Joker: "Ah late to the party but the girls are coming with me. Now get the hell on there so we can end this."
Joker: "That was for Cortez!"
Then I scrolled up a bit and after the banter, A man Scream go fall back get out of here. He sounds like Shepard! He told his squad mates to go before the beam hit him.
I guarantee you this is how it will go. EC was planned but probably was not going to be free.
Well well, Epyonx. Do I sense that you've been converted?
In fairness though, this isn't new. Check it out.
Interesting how the second one says that Shepard wakes up with a bit of metal sticking through his leg. In the breath scene, it's always looked to me like there's a bit of metal rebar (NOTE: NOT REAPER CABLE. I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED THIS) sticking through his leg...
I don't think Epyon was ever a believer
yeah, the bit where we get a fraction of a glimpse of blood n stuff? Suppose we havent' really analysed that.
#40320
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 07:59
#40321
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 08:00
SS2Dante wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
They're even files of Anderson saying either several reapers, several soverign class reapers and server sovereign class reapser including harbinger broke off their battle with sword and are headed here.
There's a possibility that harbinger never makes it to earth. I remember seeing that Leaked plot point chart for ME3. It was true and Bioware either took it out of the game or changed it!
I wonder if that would have been to do with your EMS?
That's what the chart said. Depending on EMS the reapers can be delayed enough where they don't even land. At that point you fight waves of cerberus instead of a reaper.
#40322
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 08:00
EpyonX3 wrote...
They're even files of Anderson saying either several reapers, several soverign class reapers and server sovereign class reapser including harbinger broke off their battle with sword and are headed here.
There's a possibility that harbinger never makes it to earth. I remember seeing that Leaked plot point chart for ME3. It was true and Bioware either took it out of the game or changed it!
I'm pretty sure this line was in the game just before the beam charge. Unless you mean it is a longer version of said line.
#40323
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 08:03
Stegoceras wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
They're even files of Anderson saying either several reapers, several soverign class reapers and server sovereign class reapser including harbinger broke off their battle with sword and are headed here.
There's a possibility that harbinger never makes it to earth. I remember seeing that Leaked plot point chart for ME3. It was true and Bioware either took it out of the game or changed it!
I'm pretty sure this line was in the game just before the beam charge. Unless you mean it is a longer version of said line.
there are three distinctive versions of the same line. We only hear one of them in the game. Harbinger always makes it to earth no matter what EMS you have.
#40324
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 08:03
GO!
#40325
Posté 20 avril 2012 - 08:05
SS2Dante wrote...
Sammuthegreat wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
WTFUNK??
I was going through the audio files. and found this.
end001_final_run_trouble_c_D_Int.14.ogg
Let me say that everything previous to this are the sounds of the radio chatter that occurs as you wake up after you get hit by Harby.
What's so special about this file? Well It's Anderson speaking to....JOKER!
He says Joker, great timing! The rest are small parts of Joker talking to Anderson.
Joker: "Ah late to the party but the girls are coming with me. Now get the hell on there so we can end this."
Joker: "That was for Cortez!"
Then I scrolled up a bit and after the banter, A man Scream go fall back get out of here. He sounds like Shepard! He told his squad mates to go before the beam hit him.
I guarantee you this is how it will go. EC was planned but probably was not going to be free.
Well well, Epyonx. Do I sense that you've been converted?
In fairness though, this isn't new. Check it out.
Interesting how the second one says that Shepard wakes up with a bit of metal sticking through his leg. In the breath scene, it's always looked to me like there's a bit of metal rebar (NOTE: NOT REAPER CABLE. I HAVE NEVER BELIEVED THIS) sticking through his leg...
I don't think Epyon was ever a believer
yeah, the bit where we get a fraction of a glimpse of blood n stuff? Suppose we havent' really analysed that.
Not a firm believer no. To me this just takes more away from the theory. If the implement this and don't change the ending, then everything that was missing will be explained.
My god, if Bioware had just stuck to the original script, we wouldn't be doing this right now.




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