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[LumbercracK]

Thank you bat and balance.
you guys in some sense are right in allot of ways.
Choosing destroy as it was your goal the entire time makes some sense.
What i think is missing is the ability to acctually agree with TIM. What if you had options with control rather then die and the reapers leave

[Auralius Carolus]

Cucobr wrote...

Found by yuedps
What do you think? Similar?












!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, they look very similar. Three very similar red x's where images should be.

[Cucobr]

fixed =S

[SS2Dante]

By the way, have we discussed this yet? I mean, seriously.

End like the "first matrix", "symbolic", "ambiguous function", "lots of speculation from everyone", "vague terms". I don't see how the "they were rushed argument can stand up to this. Unless they are doing outright fraud now. they clearly knew what they were doing beforehand.

http://i604.photobuc...32190712246.png

[Auralius Carolus]

Cucobr wrote...

Found by yuedps
What do you think? Similar?
















!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, better. Lets see... I suppose you're comparing them to the final approach in the Citadel where you meet up with Anderson and TIM. Yes, similar, but in all reality, there are likely dozens of such locations in the Citadel. The place is absolutely huge... probably, what? 10km long?

[SS2Dante]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

Found by yuedps
What do you think? Similar?












!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, they look very similar. Three very similar red x's where images should be.

Images fixed, but I don't get what we're supposed to see?

[Auralius Carolus]

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, have we discussed this yet? I mean, seriously.

End like the "first matrix", "symbolic", "ambiguous function", "lots of speculation from everyone", "vague terms". I don't see how the "they were rushed argument can stand up to this. Unless they are doing outright fraud now. they clearly knew what they were doing beforehand.

http://i604.photobuc...32190712246.png

It's been discussed in other threads.

[balance5050]

LumbercracK wrote...

Thank you bat and balance.
you guys in some sense are right in allot of ways.
Choosing destroy as it was your goal the entire time makes some sense.
What i think is missing is the ability to acctually agree with TIM. What if you had options with control rather then die and the reapers leave

Both control and synthesize are such abstract ideas that you have to literally just imagine what YOUR Shepard would do with the reapers. Use them to rebuild the Relays? Fly them into the sun? Does Shepard reaper start to get hungry and have genocidal tendencies?

Every reality is real for the person experiencing it. If you perceive that you chose control and saved everyone, then good for you. Other player will choose destroy and see Shepard waking up is some rubble, and if Shepard is alive, does that mean that the Geth and EDI are alive too? And if they are, what about the reaper's themselves? DANG IT! I'M STILL IN LONDON!!! and now I have this peice of metal in my leg.

[Auralius Carolus]

balance5050 wrote...

LumbercracK wrote...

Thank you bat and balance.
you guys in some sense are right in allot of ways.
Choosing destroy as it was your goal the entire time makes some sense.
What i think is missing is the ability to acctually agree with TIM. What if you had options with control rather then die and the reapers leave

Both control and synthesize are such abstract ideas that you have to literally just imagine what YOUR Shepard would do with the reapers. Use them to rebuild the Relays? Fly them into the sun? Does Shepard reaper start to get hungry and have genocidal tendencies?

Every reality is real for the person experiencing it. If you perceive that you chose control and saved everyone, then good for you. Other player will choose destroy and see Shepard waking up is some rubble, and if Shepard is alive, does that mean that the Geth and EDI are alive too? And if they are, what about the reaper's themselves? DANG IT! I'M STILL IN LONDON!!! and now I have this peice of metal in my leg.

Control and Synthesis are defining tools of the Reapers. I reject them as trickery.

[SS2Dante]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, have we discussed this yet? I mean, seriously.

End like the "first matrix", "symbolic", "ambiguous function", "lots of speculation from everyone", "vague terms". I don't see how the "they were rushed argument can stand up to this. Unless they are doing outright fraud now. they clearly knew what they were doing beforehand.

http://i604.photobuc...32190712246.png

It's been discussed in other threads.

Is that a way of saying you're bored of it?

[balance5050]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

LumbercracK wrote...

Thank you bat and balance.
you guys in some sense are right in allot of ways.
Choosing destroy as it was your goal the entire time makes some sense.
What i think is missing is the ability to acctually agree with TIM. What if you had options with control rather then die and the reapers leave

Both control and synthesize are such abstract ideas that you have to literally just imagine what YOUR Shepard would do with the reapers. Use them to rebuild the Relays? Fly them into the sun? Does Shepard reaper start to get hungry and have genocidal tendencies?

Every reality is real for the person experiencing it. If you perceive that you chose control and saved everyone, then good for you. Other player will choose destroy and see Shepard waking up is some rubble, and if Shepard is alive, does that mean that the Geth and EDI are alive too? And if they are, what about the reaper's themselves? DANG IT! I'M STILL IN LONDON!!! and now I have this peice of metal in my leg.

Control and Synthesis are defining tools of the Reapers. I reject them as trickery.

Agreed, everyone who is indoctrinated either wants synthesis or control in one form or another.

[szkasypcze]

OK OK!!!

Just went throught those 1619 pages of this thread. Started 2 week ago and have just finished. Went unconscious seceral time of dehydration and starvation but managed to finish it And I have one question:

Have You people reached consensus??

[Numara]

Hi everyone, god 1600 pages.... im not sure i can read them all, just wanted to share 1 thing is bothering me, Maybe some1 said it already if is so, im srry:
If IT is correct ( im hoping so, so many hints, i dont think they are for nothing) As all here already discussed Shepard waking up after RED choice because he/she breaks the indoctrination, ok but if There is no Indoctrination and all we see its real, and we must believe everything star nosense child says, Shepard got to be dead in RED choice so---- 1 IT is correct or 2 Starchild is lying.... or 3 both of them... agg so confuse
And also I started today another play and when Shepard goes inside the room that just exploded, I walked to the vent tube and there was nobody xD until the scene when u open the door and shep hears smth and bla bla bla

I dont know if this was pretended to be like this but great job Bioware even if IT its correct or not we have no Ending, or at last I dont get it....

[LumbercracK]

I refuse to beleive control and synthesis are tricks.
If i cannot trust star child to tell me the truth then i cannot make the decision as they are all lies.
Why would he tell me i even have the option to destroy them if he was lying to me. If starchild is lying he is terrible at it.

IT is false

Synthesis makes zero sense.

I like the geth
control it is

[Cucobr]

SS2Dante wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

Found by yuedps
What do you think? Similar?



!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, they look very similar. Three very similar red x's where images should be.

Images fixed, but I don't get what we're supposed to see?

Citadel console at the end of ME3.

very similar.

[Auralius Carolus]

SS2Dante wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, have we discussed this yet? I mean, seriously.

End like the "first matrix", "symbolic", "ambiguous function", "lots of speculation from everyone", "vague terms". I don't see how the "they were rushed argument can stand up to this. Unless they are doing outright fraud now. they clearly knew what they were doing beforehand.

http://i604.photobuc...32190712246.png

It's been discussed in other threads.

Is that a way of saying you're bored of it?

Somewhat. But I honestly cannot comment on if they've ever been discussed in this one, so I reference their known quantity.

I think that it has been determined that, if these are the REAL endings, then Bioware really stole some themes from other movies/games that utilize the abstract reality/deus ex machina-type endings.

[SS2Dante]

szkasypcze wrote...

OK OK!!!

Just went throught those 1619 pages of this thread. Started 2 week ago and have just finished. Went unconscious seceral time of dehydration and starvation but managed to finish it And I have one question:

Have You people reached consensus??

Depends. Do we all agree IT is likely? Most of us do. Do we all agree on the details? Most of us. Dow we agree on the minute details? 

NOOO.

[Auralius Carolus]

LumbercracK wrote...

I refuse to beleive control and synthesis are tricks.
If i cannot trust star child to tell me the truth then i cannot make the decision as they are all lies.
Why would he tell me i even have the option to destroy them if he was lying to me. If starchild is lying he is terrible at it.

IT is false

Synthesis makes zero sense.

I like the geth
control it is

Why would a being that has existed for millions of years, pursuing a continuous unyielding path, suddenly abandon his devotion and hand over his very fate to you on a whim? THAT doesn't make any sense.

[Cucobr]

LumbercracK wrote...

I refuse to beleive control and synthesis are tricks.
If i cannot trust star child to tell me the truth then i cannot make the decision as they are all lies.
Why would he tell me i even have the option to destroy them if he was lying to me. If starchild is lying he is terrible at it.

IT is false

Synthesis makes zero sense.

I like the geth
control it is

Starchild already lied to you.

''synthetics always will fight against organics''


OH WAIT >>> I made peace between Geth and Quarians. What about this?

[LumbercracK]

Gasp
Biowares plot is not 100% original lol.
What do you expect. It's the AI problem all over again. Kill the AI's let them Live or make them slaves. The only difference now is the AI's are hostile.

[SS2Dante]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Auralius Carolus wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

By the way, have we discussed this yet? I mean, seriously.

End like the "first matrix", "symbolic", "ambiguous function", "lots of speculation from everyone", "vague terms". I don't see how the "they were rushed argument can stand up to this. Unless they are doing outright fraud now. they clearly knew what they were doing beforehand.

http://i604.photobuc...32190712246.png

It's been discussed in other threads.

Is that a way of saying you're bored of it?

Somewhat. But I honestly cannot comment on if they've ever been discussed in this one, so I reference their known quantity.

I think that it has been determined that, if these are the REAL endings, then Bioware really stole some themes from other movies/games that utilize the abstract reality/deus ex machina-type endings.

That's just it though, without IT there is no "abstract reality" in this game at all. Also apparently a big talking point about the end of matrix 1 was "did they ever really get out?". Very similar.

Personally I'm interested in why they titled the page SHEPARD ALIVE

...and what the hell is that picture?

Edit - the footenotes above the first three words are weird. Do they lead anywhere else on the page? or, as is more likely, do we have an incomplete document?

Modifié par SS2Dante, 20 avril 2012 - 11:39 .

[Numara]

And geth never wanted the war... Quarians that were afraid of the rising inteligence of geth started the fight...

[Apollo-XL5]

Those photos do look similar to ME3 citadel return.

That would go as positive evidence towards the it was a dream part of the IT since the whole segment aboard the citadel (with anderson and IM) was contructed from sheps memories as well as how you deal with IM in the same way you delt with Saren (they both commit suicide)

[SS2Dante]

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

Those photos do look similar to ME3 citadel return.

That would go as positive evidence towards the it was a dream part of the IT since the whole segment aboard the citadel (with anderson and IM) was contructed from sheps memories as well as how you deal with IM in the same way you delt with Saren (they both commit suicide)

True, but the citadel control panel is completely in place in the literal interpretation. I mean, it IS a control panel for the citadel

[SS2Dante]

Numara wrote...

And geth never wanted the war... Quarians that were afraid of the rising inteligence of geth started the fight...

Yes. And this, it is implied, happens a lot. The child never says WHY the synthetics rise up. it could (and probably IS) the organics fault every time. Doesn't change the fact that the result is war.