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EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
So I guess Lumbercrack gave up? Maybe he actually went and did research. Nah, that doesn't sound like him. His avatar was perfect though. It really was like arguing with a meathead Krogan.
What was the argument about?
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
So I guess Lumbercrack gave up? Maybe he actually went and did research. Nah, that doesn't sound like him. His avatar was perfect though. It really was like arguing with a meathead Krogan.
What was the argument about?
I think the primary argument was whether Starkid was lying or not and whether IT is true or not.
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
So I guess Lumbercrack gave up? Maybe he actually went and did research. Nah, that doesn't sound like him. His avatar was perfect though. It really was like arguing with a meathead Krogan.
What was the argument about?
I think the primary argument was whether Starkid was lying or not and whether IT is true or not.
Ahh, well let's leave that one alone then
EpyonX3 wrote...
Because TIM is indoctrinated and Shepard isn't. Why should the encounters be different. Also I don't remember Shepard having his body immobilized by Saren while he held on of his crew members hostage.
His dreams were just that. Dreams. They had their meaning and Shepard explained what they were if you picked the paragon choice.
Yeah he brings up EDI's suit readings on him. But understand that playing galactic politics, while killing reapers, losing friends, curing the genophage, ending a war, leaving earth behind, dealing with Cerberus and TIM and being an all around friendly guy who scavenges for other people can really be stressful.
Would be unrealistic if he weren't under stress. But even though all of this is true of Shepard, he still manages to get in his suit and continue going on these missions with the intent of stopping the reapers. I don't see any diminished will power if a person goes through that and keeps getting up for more.
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
Apollo-XL5 wrote...
1. I have a PS3.EpyonX3 wrote...
Apollo-XL5 wrote...
1. YEs I have replicated afew times now, and every time with the husks.
2. I am not on about the lights when the crucible powers up, its when the arms are closed and you are talking with the IM, there are lights depicting the buildings on the arms but there are steady streams of lights travelling around those buildings which would be traffic.
3. Yes he does, when he asks you how you are and shep says "i feel like death, but I can move" unless you have been giving anderson the renegade option of "Im fine"
4. Those implants were for the IM to control reaper and cerberus forces under the control of the signal that lawson created at sanctuary, so it should not effect anderson or shepard. Since neither of them went through cerberus integration (yes i saw the pads with that info at all the cerberus bases.)
1) What system you got? Does anyone else here get one shot kills with the pistol, Cause I sure as hell don't and none of the videos I've seen do this?
2)The lights that come up on the arms when the crucible fires are the same you see when you're at the control panel.
3) "I feel like death but I'm moving" to soldiers means he's good and doesn't need help. Anderson also couldn't have known where Shepard really was excpet for the fact that the descriptions are similar. Waiting for him would have wasted time.
4) The reserach data alone suggests that. It doesn't mean that it wasn't modified.
2. Just look again will you, inbetween the buildings you will see a steady stream of lights moving around the buildings.
3. Anderson is not really there, since he is just a projection of the part of sheps mind that is fighting the indoc attempt, while IM represents the part of sheps mind which is weak to indoc due to the guilt he feels for those he could not save.
2. I know what you're talking about. I thought they were cars too until I saw the Citadel light up like a christams tree.
3. You can only say that if you assume IT is correct (which isn't a problem if you do, btw). However, there's little evidence of this in the game that supports this.
Yeah, Anderson is supposed to represent the stubborn mule part of Shepherd's mind that hasn't given in yet. His/Her mind is shattered and arguing with itself. Ever meet anyone with Multiple Personality Disorder? That's what Shepherd was going through in the TIM/Anderson encounter.
One personality, I call the Defender(Anderson) gets shot by the other I call the Aggressor (TIM) by taking temporary control of your body. The Defender is defending you, holding back the Aggressor personality from taking total control and making you off yourself. If you kill the Aggressor personality or talk him into killing himself, that personality fades from existence. The Defender personality is either dead or lives on if you saved it, but either way it has served its temporary purpose and protected you and leaves, dissassociating itself and/or fading from existence in your mind. Afterward, you are yourself again when you face starkid.
If you look at that scene through temporary insanity/Multiple Personality Disorder, then it starts making sense because, again, all of this is in Shepherd's mind and we are perceiving what he/she is perceiving and so since Shepherd has lost his marbles, so have you (until you get them back again before meeting Starkid of course)
Arian Dynas wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
Apollo-XL5 wrote...
1. I have a PS3.EpyonX3 wrote...
Apollo-XL5 wrote...
1. YEs I have replicated afew times now, and every time with the husks.
2. I am not on about the lights when the crucible powers up, its when the arms are closed and you are talking with the IM, there are lights depicting the buildings on the arms but there are steady streams of lights travelling around those buildings which would be traffic.
3. Yes he does, when he asks you how you are and shep says "i feel like death, but I can move" unless you have been giving anderson the renegade option of "Im fine"
4. Those implants were for the IM to control reaper and cerberus forces under the control of the signal that lawson created at sanctuary, so it should not effect anderson or shepard. Since neither of them went through cerberus integration (yes i saw the pads with that info at all the cerberus bases.)
1) What system you got? Does anyone else here get one shot kills with the pistol, Cause I sure as hell don't and none of the videos I've seen do this?
2)The lights that come up on the arms when the crucible fires are the same you see when you're at the control panel.
3) "I feel like death but I'm moving" to soldiers means he's good and doesn't need help. Anderson also couldn't have known where Shepard really was excpet for the fact that the descriptions are similar. Waiting for him would have wasted time.
4) The reserach data alone suggests that. It doesn't mean that it wasn't modified.
2. Just look again will you, inbetween the buildings you will see a steady stream of lights moving around the buildings.
3. Anderson is not really there, since he is just a projection of the part of sheps mind that is fighting the indoc attempt, while IM represents the part of sheps mind which is weak to indoc due to the guilt he feels for those he could not save.
2. I know what you're talking about. I thought they were cars too until I saw the Citadel light up like a christams tree.
3. You can only say that if you assume IT is correct (which isn't a problem if you do, btw). However, there's little evidence of this in the game that supports this.
Yeah, Anderson is supposed to represent the stubborn mule part of Shepherd's mind that hasn't given in yet. His/Her mind is shattered and arguing with itself. Ever meet anyone with Multiple Personality Disorder? That's what Shepherd was going through in the TIM/Anderson encounter.
One personality, I call the Defender(Anderson) gets shot by the other I call the Aggressor (TIM) by taking temporary control of your body. The Defender is defending you, holding back the Aggressor personality from taking total control and making you off yourself. If you kill the Aggressor personality or talk him into killing himself, that personality fades from existence. The Defender personality is either dead or lives on if you saved it, but either way it has served its temporary purpose and protected you and leaves, dissassociating itself and/or fading from existence in your mind. Afterward, you are yourself again when you face starkid.
If you look at that scene through temporary insanity/Multiple Personality Disorder, then it starts making sense because, again, all of this is in Shepherd's mind and we are perceiving what he/she is perceiving and so since Shepherd has lost his marbles, so have you (until you get them back again before meeting Starkid of course)
Multiple Personality Disorder does not exist. There IS a psychological issue known as DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY disorder, meaning that rather than multiple personalities as popular culture insists is the case, it is in fact, several facets of the same personality, much like how you act differently when with your friends than when around your mother, so does a person with DID, only a person with DID is not capapble of associating all the seperate suitations into one cohesive personality.
Using your names, this explains why the Defender (an internal force) is radically different from the Agressor (an outside force from an alien personality) and why the Defender shows the closest similarities to Shepard, whereas the Agressor does not.
BatmanTurian wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
Multiple Personality Disorder does not exist. There IS a psychological issue known as DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY disorder, meaning that rather than multiple personalities as popular culture insists is the case, it is in fact, several facets of the same personality, much like how you act differently when with your friends than when around your mother, so does a person with DID, only a person with DID is not capapble of associating all the seperate suitations into one cohesive personality.
Using your names, this explains why the Defender (an internal force) is radically different from the Agressor (an outside force from an alien personality) and why the Defender shows the closest similarities to Shepard, whereas the Agressor does not.
Yes, I know MPD is called DID now and is something else entirely in the media. I was giving it the pop culture name so people less wiser than you or I would understand what I was talking about. The link pints to a DID wiki page. But essentially, yes, your last paragraph is what I mean. The Aggressor is a personality formed by the Reapers and is an indoctrinated personality whereas the Defender is a walled-off part of Shepherd performing the role it was created for by Shepherd's mind.
Normally this disorder would be caused by sexual or physical abuse as a child, but in the case of Shepherd, I believe it is the stress of the Reapers trying to rip into his/her brain and all the people he/she has lost, etc causing the disorder to temporarily occur. Some of the symptoms also mimic Reaper Indoctrination symptoms (Psychotic-like symptoms such as hearing voices, Distortion or loss of subjective time, Self-alteration such as feeling as if one's body belongs to someone else, etc)
Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, an interesting thing I noticed. During the fight with him, one of the things Kai Leng says is "We evolve, or we die" recall that Leng is fully indoctrinated. A bit more fodder for the "Reapers see themselves as the end of evolution" theory.Arian Dynas wrote...
I've been thinking about it, and I think I've got the Reapers figured out.
Here's the "birth" of the Reapers in my opinion;
Long ago in the Milky Way, a species arises, skilled in both science and war, they are among the first to discover the Mass Effect and move out into the stars. They make many enemies along the way, perhaps even forming an empire in the process, seeking to integrate others into their might, perhaps seeing their wars as a sort of sick philanthrophism, granting might to the weak, and unity to the individual, but in the end, they are pushed back to their home world, a dying rock, exhausted by it's population. Calamity strikes, quickly and effectively, leaving them with little time.
They realize they must leave, or they will face extinction, there is no time to take everyone with them via ship, they simply don't have the means, and would far prefer to avoid becoming an endangered species in a galaxy out for their blood. So they turn to technology to preserve both their strength, and their legacy.
Their grim sciences which made them masters of what they saw, are now put to use saving their species from the ravages of natural selection. They come to a realization. Though they will never transport their bodies off, nothing precludes the traveling of the mind.
Repurposing the flagship of their fleet, the greatest of their ships, they begin to improve it, making it a worthy vessel for their continued existence, though they find themselves lacking for materials. Turning again to desperation, they use their own bodies, their sciences having made them as equally skilled in the manipulation of flesh as the manipulation of metal.
Finally, their ship is all but complete, when a mighty scientist and military mind comes to an important realization. What if the ship is damaged? She will need physical crew to repair her, and there shall be no physical crew remaining from their great work's completion.
He finds the soloution. Their species is known for the skill at manipulating the minds of others, a technology they long discovered, and one they integrate into every aspect of their ship's technology, a power that will allow them to go to war, and if ever is needed, melt down and integrate whatever building materials they need.
Thus, with the collected minds of an entire species embodied in one physical form, they leave behind their dying planet, the minds forming into one gestalt entity. And thus is born Harbinger.
Harbinger revels in his new form, a single mind, formed of many. He chooses to take this opportunity to settle old scores, using the mightiest capital ship that ever has, or ever will be seen.
After facing his own near destruction, Harbinger comes to the realization that alone, he is vulneruable.
He comes to the realization that HE is the pinnacle of creation, the greatest of all beings that has ever existed, or ever will exist. He also realizes that his is a form that all others should aspire to, NAY! A form they should be FORCED into if need be.
Forcing other species into a form such as his is doing them a kindness, allowing them the perfection of a form like his own. He conquers several of his old enemies, turning the greatest of them into capital ships, while others, those he finds more pathetic and simple, are merely made into his destroyers. Animals of all shapes and descriptions are not exempt either, rather than leaving them to die on a planet with a shattered biosphere, he creates the first Troop Transports and Processing Ships ships from their raw materials, beginning the creation of his armada.
Finally, with a galaxy stripped of his enemies, both great and small. Harbinger finds himself and his fleet without purpose, their war won forever. He then comes to a realization, life will arise again in the Milky Way, more great species will be born to accomplish great things as his own did. He could exterminate all life now if he chose.
Instead, he chooses to grant them the kindness of perfection, the opportunity to rise to his level, the peak of evolution. Though he becomes aware, they will certainly become a threat to him, so he chooses to do what his species was know best for, and turns to science. He realizes that if he provides an easy, accessable route for them, they will take it, giving him a method of control oever them. And so, the Reapers as they have now termed themselves, begin to sow the seeds of their crop of flesh, creating the Mass Relays, repurposing old enemies as the Keepers, and preparing to wait for a new crop to rise...
And I still really like it. You should seriously apply to Bioware, Arian.Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, shameless self-promoting bump!Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, an interesting thing I noticed. During the fight with him, one of the things Kai Leng says is "We evolve, or we die" recall that Leng is fully indoctrinated. A bit more fodder for the "Reapers see themselves as the end of evolution" theory.
I've been thinking about it, and I think I've got the Reapers figured out.
Here's the "birth" of the Reapers in my opinion;
*snip*
Modifié par BatmanTurian, 21 avril 2012 - 03:03 .
Modifié par lonedude73, 21 avril 2012 - 03:04 .
lonedude73 wrote...
not sure if anyone posted this ,but
Harbinger is a master troll.
BatmanTurian wrote...
And I still really like it. You should seriously apply to Bioware, Arian.Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, shameless self-promoting bump!Arian Dynas wrote...
Also, an interesting thing I noticed. During the fight with him, one of the things Kai Leng says is "We evolve, or we die" recall that Leng is fully indoctrinated. A bit more fodder for the "Reapers see themselves as the end of evolution" theory.
I've been thinking about it, and I think I've got the Reapers figured out.
Here's the "birth" of the Reapers in my opinion;
*snip*
Modifié par Arian Dynas, 21 avril 2012 - 03:08 .
Auralius Carolus wrote...
Hey guys! Are we still trolling Arian about his opinion on the origin of the Reapers, because...
oops.
Modifié par Arian Dynas, 21 avril 2012 - 03:15 .
Arian Dynas wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
Hey guys! Are we still trolling Arian about his opinion on the origin of the Reapers, because...
oops.
That's it. You die.
* coccks his M-300 Claymore*
EDIT: Oh you are ****ing kidding me, the word **** is censored? THEN HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT JOKER BEING IN THE cockpit EH!?!
EDIT EDIT:
Oh, that's how.
It's still stupid. And an excellent example of the S****horpe Problem.
RADIUMEYEZ wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
Hey guys! Are we still trolling Arian about his opinion on the origin of the Reapers, because...
oops.
That's it. You die.
* coccks his M-300 Claymore*
EDIT: Oh you are ****ing kidding me, the word **** is censored? THEN HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT JOKER BEING IN THE cockpit EH!?!
EDIT EDIT:
Oh, that's how.
It's still stupid. And an excellent example of the S****horpe Problem.
*snip*
Arian Dynas wrote...
RADIUMEYEZ wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
Auralius Carolus wrote...
Hey guys! Are we still trolling Arian about his opinion on the origin of the Reapers, because...
oops.
That's it. You die.
* coccks his M-300 Claymore*
EDIT: Oh you are ****ing kidding me, the word **** is censored? THEN HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT JOKER BEING IN THE cockpit EH!?!
EDIT EDIT:
Oh, that's how.
It's still stupid. And an excellent example of the S****horpe Problem.
*snip*
*eyetwitch*
-.- I will murder you all. <_<
Modifié par RADIUMEYEZ, 21 avril 2012 - 03:23 .
Modifié par Arian Dynas, 21 avril 2012 - 03:24 .
Arian Dynas wrote...
You forgot a bracket there Sparky.
EDIT: Much better.
RADIUMEYEZ wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
You forgot a bracket there Sparky.
EDIT: Much better.
Hehe and I am done linking pictures for now. But I must bump the thread to keep conversation going or else I will have nothing to read!
Arian Dynas wrote...
RADIUMEYEZ wrote...
Arian Dynas wrote...
You forgot a bracket there Sparky.
EDIT: Much better.
Hehe and I am done linking pictures for now. But I must bump the thread to keep conversation going or else I will have nothing to read!
You too eh?
Modifié par RADIUMEYEZ, 21 avril 2012 - 03:30 .
paxxton wrote...
Do you think that BioWare is brainstorming or designing a Mass Effect RTS?
Modifié par pirate1802, 21 avril 2012 - 03:31 .
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