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[EpyonX3]

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

Probably for fun. Unless they hint at DLC in the future?

[balance5050]

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

I hope the tweets sync up with the release of the end DLC.

http://blog.bioware....e-news-network/ 

That was pretty funny though!  

"Definitely, though, provided I’ve got enough medigel, and that the mission won’t be compromised by me trying to give first aid during a firefight, I’ll be sure to use that medigel on our new friends from Khar’shan. Just as soon as I’m done helping any injured salarians, turians, drell, asari, krogan, quarians, or geth.” 

[estebanus]

Sorry I wasn't there yet today. I was taking part in a demonstration for equal funding for danish schools in Germany, and just came back.

Anyway, is there something new and interesting going on?

[Vox Draco]

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

I consider them a rather pointless part of the PR-machinery of today's gaming industry. And if not for the whole ending controversy I wouldn't even know something like that existed...

And that Emily Wong was killed in one of those news...and what to say about this? A rather sympathetic recurring character killed in such a unworthy way, it's sad somehow...

These "news" would only be cool if in the next days/weeks a newsflash would pop up indicating the battle for Earth is still ongoing...and that unconfirmed news from the surface have told about something big happening down there...or something along that line..paving the way for a massive Shepard comeback...Yeah, at least my fantasy still works, so much better than playing ME3 by now..

[Big Bad]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

Probably for fun. Unless they hint at DLC in the future?

If they are DLC hints, they're definitely flying way over my head.

[paxxton]

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

I suppose BioWare is utilizing social networks to increase player's immersion in the game. Making up SCI-Fi "news" and spreading them in RL is a bit OTT though.

[balance5050]

Vox Draco wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

I consider them a rather pointless part of the PR-machinery of today's gaming industry. And if not for the whole ending controversy I wouldn't even know something like that existed...

And that Emily Wong was killed in one of those news...and what to say about this? A rather sympathetic recurring character killed in such a unworthy way, it's sad somehow...

These "news" would only be cool if in the next days/weeks a newsflash would pop up indicating the battle for Earth is still ongoing...and that unconfirmed news from the surface have told about something big happening down there...or something along that line..paving the way for a massive Shepard comeback...Yeah, at least my fantasy still works, so much better than playing ME3 by now..

The one thing that killing off a character on ANN does is show that what happens in that feed is cannon, so I think it's worth it to just keep an eye on it (especially since it hasn't gotten to the ending yet in their timeline)

Modifié par balance5050, 21 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[MaximizedAction]

Vox Draco wrote...
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These "news" would only be cool if in the next days/weeks a newsflash would pop up indicating the battle for Earth is still ongoing...and that unconfirmed news from the surface have told about something big happening down there...or something along that line..paving the way for a massive Shepard comeback...Yeah, at least my fantasy still works, so much better than playing ME3 by now..

That's what I'm hoping for...for two reasons:
1) Still hoping that their April announcement wasn't the EC or Resurgence...
2) Gamble's comment about BSN growing and that we should expect news in the next days..nothing yet.

[alcatan]

SS2Dante wrote...

"worse than the indcotrination ending"? Most of us view the IT ending as an incredibly cool thing, preciscely because it doesn't do a Dallas and invalidate everything. In fact, the dream itself is important in IT. May I ask why you don't like the IT ending?

I'm not a fan, but I find it an interesting idea that they may have made the game nothing but a dream, but then again, I don't like it, I want a proper ending like I got with Gears 3.

Modifié par alcatan, 21 avril 2012 - 06:17 .

[Hawk227]

alcatan wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

"worse than the indcotrination ending"? Most of us view the IT ending as an incredibly cool thing, preciscely because it doesn't do a Dallas and invalidate everything. In fact, the dream itself is important in IT. May I ask why you don't like the IT ending?

I'm not a fan, but I find it an interesting idea that they may have made the game nothing but a dream

Not the game. Just the last 20 minutes or so.

[Skillz1986]

@alcatan

uh..you do know, that this is exactly what IT hopes for...and even implies? Aryan dynas wrote some good stuff on how the game would continue after you woke up (either breakimg free or actually being indoctrinated). So IT implies that you wake up..and continue. however we do not know whether there will be actual gameplay or simply cut scenes. but aryan's suggestion seemed to work on cut scenes alone.

[Rifneno]

balance5050 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Completely OT: Does anybody understand the purpose behind the Alliance News Network stories on Bioware's blog? Are they just for fun, or is there some other point to them?

I hope the tweets sync up with the release of the end DLC.

http://blog.bioware....e-news-network/

That was pretty funny though!

"Definitely, though, provided I’ve got enough medigel, and that the mission won’t be compromised by me trying to give first aid during a firefight, I’ll be sure to use that medigel on our new friends from Khar’shan. Just as soon as I’m done helping any injured salarians, turians, drell, asari, krogan, quarians, or geth.”

That entire article is HILARIOUS.

“Many of our new allies in this great struggle seem to think that batarians view warnings about incoming banshees as an insult — nothing could be further from the truth, and it would be great if people could let us know when one of those was standing right behind us. There’s also a rumor that our kinetic barriers are thermally charged, and thus we actually benefit from being hit by a geth pyro’s flamethrower. We’re honestly not sure where that one came from.”

Epic. Simply epic.

paxxton wrote...

I suppose BioWare is utilizing social networks to increase player's immersion in the game. Making up SCI-Fi "news" and spreading them in RL is a bit OTT though.

They did the same thing with ME2 and the Cerberus Daily News. Why are you so bad? Stop being so bad.

[Skillz1986]

Oh..you have edited your post it seems...forget what i just said.

[Rifneno]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Oh..you have edited your post it seems...forget what i just said.

No, it's still pretty apt.  "Makes the game just a dream"?  They definitely don't understand IT.

[alcatan]

@Skillz1986

I hope for gameplay, but at this point, I ain't paying for it, it should have been included in the game, they shoud have had the indoctrination as a test, and if you fail, you play a squad member and try to destroy the reapers, and if you succeed, Shep gets the chance to ultimately destroy the reapers, as part of the game, not ended it as did. There should Not be a need for a conclusion as a DLC, not as cut scene's.

[EpyonX3]

Anyone else want bioware to make an N7 Leather Jacket? I'd buy one the minute they're available.

[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I suppose BioWare is utilizing social networks to increase player's immersion in the game. Making up SCI-Fi "news" and spreading them in RL is a bit OTT though.

They did the same thing with ME2 and the Cerberus Daily News. Why are you so bad? Stop being so bad.

LOL. I'm not bad. Just tried to explain that there is a distinction between Sci-Fi and RL, however some people may be unhappy about that. I don't mind ANN and Allers.

Btw, have you figured out starkid's logic yet?

[RADIUMEYEZ]

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I suppose BioWare is utilizing social networks to increase player's immersion in the game. Making up SCI-Fi "news" and spreading them in RL is a bit OTT though.

They did the same thing with ME2 and the Cerberus Daily News. Why are you so bad? Stop being so bad.

LOL. I'm not bad. Just tried to explain that there is a distinction between Sci-Fi and RL, however some people may be unhappy about that. I don't mind ANN and Allers.

Btw, have you figured out starkid's logic yet?

[DirtyPhoenix]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone else want bioware to make an N7 Leather Jacket? I'd buy one the minute they're available.

As for me I'm done with anything Bioware/EA/ME-related, until they fix the ending, since my pityful brain isn't capable of understanding their artistic directions.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

pirate1802 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone else want bioware to make an N7 Leather Jacket? I'd buy one the minute they're available.

As for me I'm done with anything Bioware/EA/ME-related, until they fix the ending, since my pityful brain isn't capable of understanding their artistic directions.

It is not a thing you can comprehend.

[Skillz1986]

Never been the leather jacket wearing type. but just think about it. they are alredy charging a small fortune for the goddamn hoody. i don't even want to know, how much they would charge for a leather jacket.

[BatmanTurian]

Saltank wrote...

I think the whole indoctrination theory is overkill and it's easier to accept that the ending was a failure and we should try to look at the events in a more literal sense.

http://tvtropes.org/...ain/OccamsRazor

"Another very common mistake is to summon up the Razor in a debate over a point that is entirely moot in order to add weight to a particular argument. This usage is entirely fallacious as the Razor does nothing more than recommend the hypothesis that makes the fewest new assumptions. It is not a magical tool that points to the right answer. In a lab it will be used hundreds or thousands of times, with each and every one of the chosen hypothesis being rigorously tested, before a correct answer is found. In a debate the Razor will be used once and will, invariably, choose the user's answer as the 'right' one. Funny, that."

You're not coming out and saying Occam's Razor, but your language implies you are trying to use it on a work of fiction, which is illogical. A work of fiction CAN have complicated reasons to come to a conclusion because it might be designed that way.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 21 avril 2012 - 07:06 .

[Arian Dynas]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Saltank wrote...

I think the whole indoctrination theory is overkill and it's easier to accept that the ending was a failure and we should try to look at the events in a more literal sense.

http://tvtropes.org/...ain/OccamsRazor

"Another very common mistake is to summon up the Razor in a debate over a point that is entirely moot in order to add weight to a particular argument. This usage is entirely fallacious as the Razor does nothing more than recommend the hypothesis that makes the fewest new assumptions. It is not a magical tool that points to the right answer. In a lab it will be used hundreds or thousands of times, with each and every one of the chosen hypothesis being rigorously tested, before a correct answer is found. In a debate the Razor will be used once and will, invariably, choose the user's answer as the 'right' one. Funny, that."

You're not coming out and saying Occam's Razor, but your language implies you are trying to use it on a work of fiction, which is illogical. A work of fiction CAN have complicated reasons to come to a conclusion because it might be designed that way.

Not only that, which is simpler? A bevy of different explanations for each thing that's wrong? Or one explanation, being that it's hallucinatory and symbolic? Otherwise why would the symbols we find have any meaning or relation at all?

pirate1802 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Did anyone ever inspect the building with the vent closely? I mean the one starchild is in. Does the vent actually go anywhere?

The vent bends right side behind starchild.

 

First time I saw him, it was the fact he disappeared without a trace in the next scene that made me leery.

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone else want bioware to make an N7 Leather Jacket? I'd buy one the minute they're available.

 

Seconded. I'm not the hoodie type, but I would wear the **** out of that jacket.

dreamgazer wrote...

Out of curiosity: will the indoctrination theorists be content if it proves to be correct, yet they're not actually able to control Shepard after the "wake-up" point? Meaning will you guys be alright having the theory confirmed purely through exposition-heavy cutscenes, instead of the opportunity to get up and walk after the indoc attempt?

I'd be alright with it, I think, though there'd be something very satisfying about getting up, "dusting yourself off" and pressing forward after fending off the mental attack.

 

*cough*

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1313#11127624

Legion12Centurion wrote...
*snip*

This was basically the original Dark Energy storyline that got scrapped.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

The dark energy story sucks quad if you ask me. I'm beyond fed up with this "everything, everything, EVERYTHING EVERYTHING!!! has to be a gray moral area" fad. Apparently every western RPG nowadays is dead set on making it so whether to light a kitten on fire is a moral dilemma. It was a nice change of pace at first, but that change of pace has become the very driven-into-the-ground cliche it was meant to combat. Frankly, I want some black and white. The world isn't all black and white, but it's not all gray either. The Reapers are monsters, pure and simple. I don't want to see them portrayed as the good guys for murdering quintillions of people. I want to kill them, ****** on their graves, and feel good about it.

I can only agree on this, but on a every different level. I write stories, fan fictions mostly especially towards Legend of Spyro. As such I also read alot of fan fictions made by others and one of my major turn offs from any fan fiction universe is when people start making a "excuse" as to why Malafor (the main villian) was evil (or even worse try to paint him as grey moral).

Everything in the games paint him as the ultimate evil, no good, no reedeming qualities and that is how I write him in my own stories. 

Sometimes a villian really dosent have any bigger motivations than rulling the world and is willing to do anything to get there. The Reapers probably have a some kind of justification in their eyes, but I am quite fine with keeping it "beyond our comprehension" and simply knowing they are evil. For all I know there motivations could simply be reproduction using organics of a certain technological levl solely for making more of themselves, aka Reaping us. 

I disagree. Do I think the Reapers are evil? Oh hells yes. Do I think THEY beleive they are evil? Absolutely not. Ultimate Evil can still be gray, because life is Grey, it's also Black and White, it just depends on what perspective you have. To us they're evil, to them... well it's something a bit more alien. (NOTE: Hells yes am I playing Devil's advocate here, I don't beleive the Reapers should live or get away with what they are doing, or that what they think is right, I just think this is how they think. After all, even the Devil himself had a reason to be Evil.)
For my veiw on them see here;

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1623#11577243

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 21 avril 2012 - 07:50 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

pirate1802 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone else want bioware to make an N7 Leather Jacket? I'd buy one the minute they're available.

As for me I'm done with anything Bioware/EA/ME-related, until they fix the ending, since my pityful brain isn't capable of understanding their artistic directions.

You should really put that in your sig it'll save you some typing. Not trying to be rude! It seriously will.

N7 leather jacket like Shepard's would be pretty sweet, probably cost over $100 USD though. I've already got a N7 hoodie (non-elite) and track jacket so I'm iffy on shelling out for that.

[BatmanTurian]

Having an argument/debate with SubAstris and CavScout here about why using Occam's Razor on fiction is illogical. It's going as well as you'd imagine. I don't know why I'm bothering. Maybe I should just stay in here. The logical people obviously reside within the confines of this thread.