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[hismastersvoice]

Rifneno wrote...

Liara is building time capsules with a bunch of information in them.  Diagrams on the Crucible, information on all the known species, translators for known languages, ect.  She comes up to Shepard's cabin at one point and asks for input on one thing: Shepard's own entry.  She apparently wanted quite an entry on him/her.  She was going to send these things out to various worlds.  "Just in case" I guess.
It seemed like it was probably an early romance scene.  I was nice to all my crew but kept Shepard single because I was expecting a DAO type ending.  So if you were involved with someone else that's probably why you didn't get the scene.

Would be a good theory, if not for the fact Liara could not have known what happened after she deployed the capsules, which would have to be well before the Earth sequence(because she's strande on some random planet after that). Not only that, but Sheprad is the only person who actually gets to know of the existance of the moron god.

In other words, how the hell did that old creep know all that?

[Dilandau3000]

byne wrote...

variobunz wrote...

How do I save anderson?

You have to do all the persuade options when talking to TIM.

Anderson still dies either way.

Ah okay, I did that then. I thought you could prevent him from dying.

[Giskler]

I find that Chris Priestly exchange on twitter a bit odd. Why would he say that they havent revealed yet if the two squad mates are dead or not when you can clearly see them get out of the Normandy after the ridiculous crash landing. If the endings were what they intended then its quite obvious that they survived.

So if they havent revealed if they lived or died yet doesnt that lend credence to the indoctrination theory?

[Dilandau3000]

hismastersvoice wrote...

In other words, how the hell did that old creep know all that?

New theory: everything that happens after the time capsule scene was just stuff made up by the stargazer to fill the gaps in the story.

[Dilandau3000]

Giskler wrote...

I find that Chris Priestly exchange on twitter a bit odd. Why would he say that they havent revealed yet if the two squad mates are dead or not when you can clearly see them get out of the Normandy after the ridiculous crash landing. If the endings were what they intended then its quite obvious that they survived.

So if they havent revealed if they lived or died yet doesnt that lend credence to the indoctrination theory?

Or Priestly was simply wrong, after all he said "I think we haven't revealed that yet".

[Corephyfish]

Giskler wrote...

I find that Chris Priestly exchange on twitter a bit odd. Why would he say that they havent revealed yet if the two squad mates are dead or not when you can clearly see them get out of the Normandy after the ridiculous crash landing. If the endings were what they intended then its quite obvious that they survived.

So if they havent revealed if they lived or died yet doesnt that lend credence to the indoctrination theory?

Well there is definitely 'something' going on there, the two people to get out of the Normandy with Joker at the end are ALWAYS the people you took with you, I had Kaidan and Garrus, and then in another playthrough Liara and Tali so there has to be something to it.

I admit, I thught they had crashed on earth at first, until I saw the two moons. Damn you Bioware, way to wreck my illusion.

[thePredator50]

Ok so, I've been asleep for the past 50 pages... anything interesting happened? Any BW Twitter update or something?

[Icinix]

Giskler wrote...

I find that Chris Priestly exchange on twitter a bit odd. Why would he say that they havent revealed yet if the two squad mates are dead or not when you can clearly see them get out of the Normandy after the ridiculous crash landing. If the endings were what they intended then its quite obvious that they survived.

So if they havent revealed if they lived or died yet doesnt that lend credence to the indoctrination theory?

Over the last few years I've seen him tell everything from blatant lies to distorted truths.

50% of what he says is incorrect, the other 50% isn't 100% accurate.

[Leonia]

I'm going to laugh when it's revealed that there's a bug with the Normandy ending showing the wrong companions.

[wryterra]

slydfoxxy wrote...

Giskler wrote...

I find that Chris Priestly exchange on twitter a bit odd. Why would he say that they havent revealed yet if the two squad mates are dead or not when you can clearly see them get out of the Normandy after the ridiculous crash landing. If the endings were what they intended then its quite obvious that they survived.

So if they havent revealed if they lived or died yet doesnt that lend credence to the indoctrination theory?

Well there is definitely 'something' going on there, the two people to get out of the Normandy with Joker at the end are ALWAYS the people you took with you, I had Kaidan and Garrus, and then in another playthrough Liara and Tali so there has to be something to it.

I admit, I thught they had crashed on earth at first, until I saw the two moons. Damn you Bioware, way to wreck my illusion.

No the two people who get out of the Normandy are NOT always the people you took with you.

I took James and Javik, the two people who got out were Liara and EDI. 

[Little Lummo]

slydfoxxy wrote...

Giskler wrote...

I find that Chris Priestly exchange on twitter a bit odd. Why would he say that they havent revealed yet if the two squad mates are dead or not when you can clearly see them get out of the Normandy after the ridiculous crash landing. If the endings were what they intended then its quite obvious that they survived.

So if they havent revealed if they lived or died yet doesnt that lend credence to the indoctrination theory?

Well there is definitely 'something' going on there, the two people to get out of the Normandy with Joker at the end are ALWAYS the people you took with you, I had Kaidan and Garrus, and then in another playthrough Liara and Tali so there has to be something to it.

I admit, I thught they had crashed on earth at first, until I saw the two moons. Damn you Bioware, way to wreck my illusion.

If you choose Synthesis doesn't Edi come out with Joker? 

[DangerSandler]

I have a question that no one has touched on yet: What are the keepers' roll in all of this? The first thing I noticed when coming out of the Citadel Beam (conduit) was that Keeper on the side of the walkway, next to all the human bodies, working on something. Maybe it has no connection whatsoever, but I still find the whole situation of the keepers to be really overlooked.

[kyrieee]

Jackalope wrote...

By the way, did anyone turn around after Harbinger knocks you out?

That is not London.

I mean, there are bodies, and tanks, and rubble, but that tree right behind you is straight out of the dream scenes. I actually spent so long staring at it that Shepard fell over and died. Whoops.

it's only like 1 tree, and there are trees around when you're storming the beam as well

[Rifneno]

hismastersvoice wrote...

Would be a good theory, if not for the fact Liara could not have known what happened after she deployed the capsules, which would have to be well before the Earth sequence(because she's strande on some random planet after that). Not only that, but Sheprad is the only person who actually gets to know of the existance of the moron god.

In other words, how the hell did that old creep know all that?

I wouldn't call it a good theory.  I'm even happier with this ridiculous star child nonsense than I am with a Reaper victory.  An inevitable Reaper victory is the only end to this series I simply will not accept.
Anyway, I didn't mean it with the interpretation that the entire series was a framed narrative.  I certainly hope after the nuclear winter of failure known as Dragon Age 2 that they know better than to ever, ever use framed narrative again.  What I took it as was that the series was how things actually played out and afterwards we see that Shepard has become a classic story.  The first assumption is that he became that way because he ended the Reaper threat, but upon closer examination he may only have ended up that way because of Liara's time capsules.

[Spectre-61]

Well I persuaded TIM to shoot himself and I destroyed the reapers. My EMS was like 6900. But I still don't got the scene

Did I make something wrong?

[Dilandau3000]

slydfoxxy wrote...

Well there is definitely 'something' going on there, the two people to get out of the Normandy with Joker at the end are ALWAYS the people you took with you

Untrue. I had Ashley and Liara with me on the mission, and Tali was the one to get out with Joker (making me believe Ash and Liara had perished on earth, but now I find that may not be true based on other people's experiences with that scene).

[Stalker]

DangerSandler wrote...

I have a question that no one has touched on yet: What are the keepers' roll in all of this? The first thing I noticed when coming out of the Citadel Beam (conduit) was that Keeper on the side of the walkway, next to all the human bodies, working on something. Maybe it has no connection whatsoever, but I still find the whole situation of the keepers to be really overlooked.

Keepers are already confirmed in ME1 to work for the Reapers and keep the Citadel running. Nothing interesting to find out here. It was clear why the Keepers are in that abandoned part of the Citadel.

[Beanreaper]

variobunz wrote...

Well I persuaded TIM to shoot himself and I destroyed the reapers. My EMS was like 6900. But I still don't got the scene

How did you get TIM to shoot himself? I had full repuation and about 5.5k EMS :S

[MRedfield]

DangerSandler wrote...

I have a question that no one has touched on yet: What are the keepers' roll in all of this? The first thing I noticed when coming out of the Citadel Beam (conduit) was that Keeper on the side of the walkway, next to all the human bodies, working on something. Maybe it has no connection whatsoever, but I still find the whole situation of the keepers to be really overlooked.

I bet the keepers are the very first race that chose the synthesize option and are now mindless slaves forced to clean up a space station for new arrivals.

[MRedfield]

Beanreaper wrote...

variobunz wrote...

Well I persuaded TIM to shoot himself and I destroyed the reapers. My EMS was like 6900. But I still don't got the scene

How did you get TIM to shoot himself? I had full repuation and about 5.5k EMS :S

Just choose all paragon options in the scene when prompted? 

[DangerSandler]

Mr Massakka wrote...

DangerSandler wrote...

I have a question that no one has touched on yet: What are the keepers' roll in all of this? The first thing I noticed when coming out of the Citadel Beam (conduit) was that Keeper on the side of the walkway, next to all the human bodies, working on something. Maybe it has no connection whatsoever, but I still find the whole situation of the keepers to be really overlooked.

Keepers are already confirmed in ME1 to work for the Reapers and keep the Citadel running. Nothing interesting to find out here. It was clear why the Keepers are in that abandoned part of the Citadel.

I get that, I just think that there has to be more to it than that. 

[Lugaidster]

variobunz wrote...

Well I persuaded TIM to shoot himself and I destroyed the reapers. My EMS was like 6900. But I still don't got the scene

Did I make something wrong?

I believe it has to be a New Game+. Do make sure you have what it takes though (with that I mean EMS).

Cheers

[Spectre-61]

Beanreaper wrote...

variobunz wrote...

Well I persuaded TIM to shoot himself and I destroyed the reapers. My EMS was like 6900. But I still don't got the scene

How did you get TIM to shoot himself? I had full repuation and about 5.5k EMS :S

Every  paragon or Renegade option there was available.

[Dilandau3000]

DangerSandler wrote...

I have a question that no one has touched on yet: What are the keepers' roll in all of this? The first thing I noticed when coming out of the Citadel Beam (conduit) was that Keeper on the side of the walkway, next to all the human bodies, working on something. Maybe it has no connection whatsoever, but I still find the whole situation of the keepers to be really overlooked.

I thought the implication was simply that this was part of the core of the Citadel where the keepers do their crucial work in controlling the Citadel, that was said to exist in ME1 but no one had ever seen.

In fact, didn't some background conversation in ME1 say that if C-Sec wasn't fast enough the keepers would remove corpses in their effort to keep the Citadel clean? Maybe that's why all those bodies are there, they are people who died elsewhere and were dumped there by the keepers for later processing.

[thePredator50]

Guys, have there been any additional Bioware updates about this subject in the past 10 hours?