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Skillz1986

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@uncle jo...
Just read the previous pages...you'll understand his reaction

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Ravereth

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 Hello guys, I found THAT really interesting, but maybe I'm just seeing conections to IT where I shouldn't? =]

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I can't do it vahilor. you know i tried, i tried but it hurts! It hurts me right here in my chest, that man fails to see the mako.

Scrubs reference (jd went to disneyland withoit turk)

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Vahilor wrote...

@skillz:

ignore him... if you would tell him the eart is round and give him evidence.. he would find millons against it only to rubb into your face it is flat in his little world.


When there is nothing there, there is nothing there. You can't just make crap excuses because it doesn't fit your pre-existing conclusions, that's not intellectually honest, is it?

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I just wanted to post these links as they may help with evidence of Shepard being in London during the breath scene.

I played with the levels on the breath scene pic to lighten up the scene as it was very dark. The concrete here in the scene is identical to the london concrete in a previous scene, even down to the markings, lines, etc. Just wanted to show the comparison.

http://imageshack.us...donconcrete.jpg

http://imageshack.us...eneconcrete.jpg

Modifié par Amelyn, 22 avril 2012 - 01:32 .


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IT theorists, like a religious nut: points out face of Jesus on toast, says it is a sign from God

/facepalm

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Skillz1986

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It's..the sam picture. maybe you linked them wrong?

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Ravereth wrote...

 Hello guys, I found THAT really interesting, but maybe I'm just seeing conections to IT where I shouldn't? =]


Well, I'd say, it is at least another piece supporting the idea that there's "more than meets the eye" and that the dream sequences were carefully crafted to hint at something yet to be uncovered. Indoc being, of course, not too unlikely (given all the coincidental evidence we found in the game).

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Skillz1986

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Anti IT: ignor hundreds of jesus faces on toast, still callimg it coincidence

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Skillz1986 wrote...

It's..the sam picture. maybe you linked them wrong?


Yep sorry, fixed now hopefully.

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If we'll not look at IT, can somebody explain me the reason I should choose Red Ending?

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@delmor

it's been your goal eversince me1

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Skillz1986

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And because synthesis makes no goddamn since whatsoever

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SubAstris wrote...

IT theorists, like a religious nut: points out face of Jesus on toast, says it is a sign from God

/facepalm


I'd say both IDTers and non-IDTers can have the tendencies of religious nuts, sometimes you don't want to hear what the other is saying.

Truthfully I think all of you must be related to the Turian council member because your just dismissing each others claims.

- I am the Legion of 109 and I'm the disturber of the disturbed -

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Plus: Anderson symbolises that choice, Illusive Man does that for control. Whom would you rather follow, given the rest of the games?

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@Skillz1986
Ok, it was our goal through all the ME. And aren't the consequences too sad? Destruction of relays, fleets of entire civilizations are locked in the Solar System... Control is looking better here - relays are not destroyed, Reapers gone. What can be better?

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Amelyn wrote...

I just wanted to post these links as they may help with evidence of Shepard being in London during the breath scene.

I played with the levels on the breath scene pic to lighten up the scene as it was very dark. The concrete here in the scene is identical to the london concrete in a previous scene, even down to the markings, lines, etc. Just wanted to show the comparison.

http://imageshack.us...donconcrete.jpg

http://imageshack.us...eneconcrete.jpg






So... I was looking for those cables/rebars during my MP session and I ... I found them... http://images42.foto...89f48143f4f.jpg or maybe I'm just seeing things? :o

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@amelyn..looks similar. but the sole fact, that there's rubble in that scene is odd enough.

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Control.contradicts everything the series tried to establish. self determination..just to name one aspect. and by using your argument..why not choose synthesis. everybody stays alive.

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SubAstris wrote...

IT theorists, like a religious nut: points out face of Jesus on toast, says it is a sign from God

/facepalm


If you don't like it, you can hit your face with any nearest wall, ****.

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Delmor wrote...

If we'll not look at IT, can somebody explain me the reason I should choose Red Ending?


Because the alternatives are:
a) Overwrite the whole galaxy with Reaper code,
B) Take a stupid risk to find out what exactly "You will die and lose everything you have" means.

My Paragon just argued TIM to death using arguments like "We're not ready for such power." - it's kinda self-defeating to choose Control after that.

My Renegade might consider Control for a moment, but ultimately his goal is to "kick the Reapers back to hell", not allow their continued existence in whatever form.

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Ravereth wrote...

Amelyn wrote...

I just wanted to post these links as they may help with evidence of Shepard being in London during the breath scene.

I played with the levels on the breath scene pic to lighten up the scene as it was very dark. The concrete here in the scene is identical to the london concrete in a previous scene, even down to the markings, lines, etc. Just wanted to show the comparison.

http://imageshack.us...donconcrete.jpg

http://imageshack.us...eneconcrete.jpg






So... I was looking for those cables/rebars during my MP session and I ... I found them... http://images42.foto...89f48143f4f.jpg or maybe I'm just seeing things? :o


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Delmor wrote...

Emm, for example, Citadel just fell down on the Earth near the beam (there were some makos around)


Sure, Shepard survived being at ground zero of this:

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For an explosion to be that large, it would have to be several times the magnitiude of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Did I mention Shepard was at the epicenter?

No, Shepard did not survive that nuclear-level explosion. No, Shepard did not survive re-entry into Earth's murdertastic atmosphere, the same atmosphere that's responsible for only only 10-40% of the average satellite still existing after it falls to Earth. No, Shepard did not survive a 300,000 foot fall after that. And no, Shepard didn't even survive the unforgiving vaccuum of open space without a protective suit and helmet.

And yes, Mass Effect has traditionally been as accurate scientifically as possible. Quantum entanglers? Those are a thing. That ridiculous sounding description of the javelin rifle? Scientifically solid (and utterly terrifying). Dark energy, ripping everything apart? Also a thing. They make up new stuff when necessary for the sake of being able to tell a sci-fi story (like eezo), but they try to keep things as believable as possible. IIRC, they even had astronomy experts consult to make sure their space science was as solid as the sci-fi nature of the story allowed. So they wouldn't have Shepard survive 4 different absolute certain deaths, two of which that would have utterly vaporized a human body.

Uncle Jo wrote...

No need to be aggressive. I'm just giving my opinion and didn't say the IT sucks. Or you just don't like people who think differently ?


I show people the same respect they show us. You tell us we're "discrediting ourselves" with evidence you don't like, such as Shepard's eyes turning exactly like TIM's (which the comics established happened after contact with a Reaper artifact that was huskifying people). If you want to discuss the evidence and provide some counterpoints, that's great. We welcome a civil debate of evidence. But that post seriously came off as more "my opinion = fact, what's wrong with you guys?" that most of the IT opponents posting lately have. If I'm mistaken, I apologize for getting off on the wrong foot, but that was certainly the vibe I got from "discrediting ourselves".

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In synthesis relays are also destroyed (I really don't know why - Catalyst said there would be a union of synthetics and organics not destruction like in red ending)

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Delmor wrote...

In synthesis relays are also destroyed (I really don't know why - Catalyst said there would be a union of synthetics and organics not destruction like in red ending)

even in control, they get destroyed