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EpyonX3 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Since some of you are talking about the last dream with the clone Shepard... I get the serious creeps everytime I see Shepard's evil smile. To be honest, first time I saw it I expected to go Shepard full Saren afterwards, probably giving in to his dark site or something like that. What if that clone Shepard is kind of a symbol for Harbinger/the Reapers - and the evil smile is to indicate that now Shepard is fully indoctrinated, that it finally worked?


Heeey, you can see it too? When I first watched that scene it was obvious my Shep was smirking at me but I can't see it in the vids online, but I wasn't sure if that's just cos I'm not used to maleSheps face.


Hai guys.

Posted Image


Eyes.....


Yeah, what's goin on there? Is that renegade eyes or indoc eyes? (and have we established a difference, or come up with a reason why Shep would get renegade eyes in the blue and green endings?)

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Must be modded.

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lex0r11 wrote...

Must be modded.


Was gonna say, thought renegade eyes turned red? (do't play renegade, don't know)

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SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...





Out of topic: How went your exam ?


Well thank you for remembering :D

Uuuum alright. Start was easier than I thought but end was harder, so... :P

If I scraped 50% I'm happy :P


What are you studying?


Computer Science, with a mind to use it for...video games, big surprise :P  I actually think that my interest in thisstuff is why I view IT as so likely (from a development perspective, I mean.)

Lol, next few weeks on this forum will just be me moaning that it's distracting me from my studies ;) :P


Funny gonna study the same thing, though i am taking a year of from studies at the moment and seeing this thread I am happy it did not hit during studies.

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SS2Dante wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Must be modded.


Was gonna say, thought renegade eyes turned red? (do't play renegade, don't know)



Look into my eyes..

*hypnotoad mode*

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And yeah, i'll leave for now, going out for dinner.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...





Out of topic: How went your exam ?


Well thank you for remembering :D

Uuuum alright. Start was easier than I thought but end was harder, so... :P

If I scraped 50% I'm happy :P


What are you studying?


Computer Science, with a mind to use it for...video games, big surprise :P  I actually think that my interest in thisstuff is why I view IT as so likely (from a development perspective, I mean.)

Lol, next few weeks on this forum will just be me moaning that it's distracting me from my studies ;) :P


Funny gonna study the same thing, though i am taking a year of from studies at the moment and seeing this thread I am happy it did not hit during studies.


Cool, hope you enjoy it. Uni's way more fun than school :)

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SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Since some of you are talking about the last dream with the clone Shepard... I get the serious creeps everytime I see Shepard's evil smile. To be honest, first time I saw it I expected to go Shepard full Saren afterwards, probably giving in to his dark site or something like that. What if that clone Shepard is kind of a symbol for Harbinger/the Reapers - and the evil smile is to indicate that now Shepard is fully indoctrinated, that it finally worked?


Heeey, you can see it too? When I first watched that scene it was obvious my Shep was smirking at me but I can't see it in the vids online, but I wasn't sure if that's just cos I'm not used to maleSheps face.


Hai guys.

Posted Image


Eyes.....


Yeah, what's goin on there? Is that renegade eyes or indoc eyes? (and have we established a difference, or come up with a reason why Shep would get renegade eyes in the blue and green endings?)


Weirdly close to this

http://femshep.ning....d-rannoch-smile 

EDIT - seems to be a fairly standard pic for femshep (for some reason). Every other renegade I've seen has red eyes, so I'm inclined to believe it's a mod)

Modifié par SS2Dante, 23 avril 2012 - 04:50 .


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SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...





Out of topic: How went your exam ?


Well thank you for remembering :D

Uuuum alright. Start was easier than I thought but end was harder, so... :P

If I scraped 50% I'm happy :P


What are you studying?


Computer Science, with a mind to use it for...video games, big surprise :P  I actually think that my interest in thisstuff is why I view IT as so likely (from a development perspective, I mean.)

Lol, next few weeks on this forum will just be me moaning that it's distracting me from my studies ;) :P


Ah I figured. I'm also studying CS. I'm on my last semesters. I'm also studying for my .Net 4.0 certification.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...





Out of topic: How went your exam ?


Well thank you for remembering :D

Uuuum alright. Start was easier than I thought but end was harder, so... :P

If I scraped 50% I'm happy :P


What are you studying?


Computer Science, with a mind to use it for...video games, big surprise :P  I actually think that my interest in thisstuff is why I view IT as so likely (from a development perspective, I mean.)

Lol, next few weeks on this forum will just be me moaning that it's distracting me from my studies ;) :P


Ah I figured. I'm also studying CS. I'm on my last semesters. I'm also studying for my .Net 4.0 certification.


Ah nice, I'm just finishing second year.

Man, you're gonna be busy then :P

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Rifneno wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

I think even Bioware wouldn't try to explain how Shepard could survive the two explosions (Crucible tank + Citadel) cause there is nothing to explain. It's simply impossible to get alive from this. Even for Shep. Even in a video game. IMO, this is the strongest argument for the IT.

Let's not speak about Marauder Shields and the 3 husks as last defence-line and the strangely empty Citadel... Or the Normandy leaving the battle...


The argument of the dreams can be used from both sides (nightmares getting worse because the whole Situation is getting worse or Indoctrination Effect getting stronger. Both are plausible), as well as the VI on Thessia (since it's nowhere explicitly told what kind of Stage of Indoctrination it could detect. We only know for sure that it detects fully indoctrinated people).


I know, right? It's hilarious to see people try and explain away surviving that explosion. Remember the end of Independence Day, where that alien is on the mothership watching the timer on the hydrogen bomb click over to 0:00 and obliterate the mothership? That alien had as much chance of surviving as Shepard.

Oh yeah, the nightmares. Opponents of IT always point to the fact it's a symptom of PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder). And it is. Just like fever is a symptom of ebola. What they don't point out is that every symptom of PTSD that Shepard experiences (and most of those who point to PTSD are shocked to learn that there's symptoms OTHER than nightmares) are also symptoms of indoctrination.

Shepard experiences almost every symptom of indoctrination. He experiences a couple of symptoms of PTSD. The few PTSD symptoms he experiences are symptoms common to both maladies. If this was an episode of House and someone said it was PTSD, they'd get beaten with a cane.

And some of the important symptoms of PTSD are waking flashbacks, which Shepard never experiences. And pretty much universally as I understand it, an extremely strong aversion to being in the situation or surroundings that traumatized them. That's why the asari in counciling doesn't want to be around humans and refuses to bathe. That's why Kelly Chambers won't come back to the Normandy. If Shepard has PTSD from the Reaper attack on Earth, then he would be pretty desperate to avoid Reapers. That is the exact opposite of what Shepard does.




I absolutely agree with you on the PTSD. But remember that most of the people don't have such a good knowledge about it like you do. Besides they maybe don't think that far. They probably assume that he's just having nightmares, like we all do sometimes, when something is "bothering" us in real life (Sheps are a little bit worse though)...
Anyways like I said, it could be an argument for both of IT and anti-IT (I don't like too much this word, I may not believe in it but I still respect it and find it very coherent in itself)...

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 23 avril 2012 - 04:57 .


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Uncle Jo wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

I think even Bioware wouldn't try to explain how Shepard could survive the two explosions (Crucible tank + Citadel) cause there is nothing to explain. It's simply impossible to get alive from this. Even for Shep. Even in a video game. IMO, this is the strongest argument for the IT.

Let's not speak about Marauder Shields and the 3 husks as last defence-line and the strangely empty Citadel... Or the Normandy leaving the battle...


The argument of the dreams can be used from both sides (nightmares getting worse because the whole Situation is getting worse or Indoctrination Effect getting stronger. Both are plausible), as well as the VI on Thessia (since it's nowhere explicitly told what kind of Stage of Indoctrination it could detect. We only know for sure that it detects fully indoctrinated people).


I know, right? It's hilarious to see people try and explain away surviving that explosion. Remember the end of Independence Day, where that alien is on the mothership watching the timer on the hydrogen bomb click over to 0:00 and obliterate the mothership? That alien had as much chance of surviving as Shepard.

Oh yeah, the nightmares. Opponents of IT always point to the fact it's a symptom of PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder). And it is. Just like fever is a symptom of ebola. What they don't point out is that every symptom of PTSD that Shepard experiences (and most of those who point to PTSD are shocked to learn that there's symptoms OTHER than nightmares) are also symptoms of indoctrination.

Shepard experiences almost every symptom of indoctrination. He experiences a couple of symptoms of PTSD. The few PTSD symptoms he experiences are symptoms common to both maladies. If this was an episode of House and someone said it was PTSD, they'd get beaten with a cane.

And some of the important symptoms of PTSD are waking flashbacks, which Shepard never experiences. And pretty much universally as I understand it, an extremely strong aversion to being in the situation or surroundings that traumatized them. That's why the asari in counciling doesn't want to be around humans and refuses to bathe. That's why Kelly Chambers won't come back to the Normandy. If Shepard has PTSD from the Reaper attack on Earth, then he would be pretty desperate to avoid Reapers. That is the exact opposite of what Shepard does.




I absolutely agree with you on the PTSD. But remember that most of the people don't have such a good knowledge about it like you do. Besides they maybe don't think that far. They probably assume that he's just having nightmares, like we all do sometimes, when something is "bothering" us in real life (Sheps are a little bit worse though)...
Anyways like I said, it could be an argument for both of IT and anti-IT (I don't like too much this word, I may not believe in it but I still respect it and find it very coherent in itself)...







Perhaps we can have the It-ers, the Sceptics, and the anti-It-ers :P

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SS2Dante wrote...


Perhaps we can have the It-ers, the Sceptics, and the anti-It-ers :P

Yeah :D Count me in the second one... Although it sucks a little... It sounds to me like, the green/synthesis/all-will-be-happy husks ending...

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Rifneno wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

I think even Bioware wouldn't try to explain how Shepard could survive the two explosions (Crucible tank + Citadel) cause there is nothing to explain. It's simply impossible to get alive from this. Even for Shep. Even in a video game. IMO, this is the strongest argument for the IT.

Let's not speak about Marauder Shields and the 3 husks as last defence-line and the strangely empty Citadel... Or the Normandy leaving the battle...


The argument of the dreams can be used from both sides (nightmares getting worse because the whole Situation is getting worse or Indoctrination Effect getting stronger. Both are plausible), as well as the VI on Thessia (since it's nowhere explicitly told what kind of Stage of Indoctrination it could detect. We only know for sure that it detects fully indoctrinated people).


I know, right? It's hilarious to see people try and explain away surviving that explosion. Remember the end of Independence Day, where that alien is on the mothership watching the timer on the hydrogen bomb click over to 0:00 and obliterate the mothership? That alien had as much chance of surviving as Shepard.

Oh yeah, the nightmares. Opponents of IT always point to the fact it's a symptom of PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder). And it is. Just like fever is a symptom of ebola. What they don't point out is that every symptom of PTSD that Shepard experiences (and most of those who point to PTSD are shocked to learn that there's symptoms OTHER than nightmares) are also symptoms of indoctrination.

Shepard experiences almost every symptom of indoctrination. He experiences a couple of symptoms of PTSD. The few PTSD symptoms he experiences are symptoms common to both maladies. If this was an episode of House and someone said it was PTSD, they'd get beaten with a cane.

And some of the important symptoms of PTSD are waking flashbacks, which Shepard never experiences. And pretty much universally as I understand it, an extremely strong aversion to being in the situation or surroundings that traumatized them. That's why the asari in counciling doesn't want to be around humans and refuses to bathe. That's why Kelly Chambers won't come back to the Normandy. If Shepard has PTSD from the Reaper attack on Earth, then he would be pretty desperate to avoid Reapers. That is the exact opposite of what Shepard does.


On further refelection it seems the PTSD suffering soldier is there, in order to explicitly state that Shep isn't experiencing PTSD, but indoctrination.

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SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...





Out of topic: How went your exam ?


Well thank you for remembering :D

Uuuum alright. Start was easier than I thought but end was harder, so... :P

If I scraped 50% I'm happy :P


What are you studying?


Computer Science, with a mind to use it for...video games, big surprise :P  I actually think that my interest in thisstuff is why I view IT as so likely (from a development perspective, I mean.)

Lol, next few weeks on this forum will just be me moaning that it's distracting me from my studies ;) :P


Ah I figured. I'm also studying CS. I'm on my last semesters. I'm also studying for my .Net 4.0 certification.


Ah nice, I'm just finishing second year.

Man, you're gonna be busy then :P


oh yeah. it's not too difficult, just a lot of material. I think just about all of Microsoft exam training kits are at least 500 pages.

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Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


Perhaps we can have the It-ers, the Sceptics, and the anti-It-ers :P

Yeah :D Count me in the second one... Although it sucks a little... It sounds to me like, the green/synthesis/all-will-be-happy husks ending...


thats what they want you to think.....


edit: did I misread your post? lol....  

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SS2Dante wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Since some of you are talking about the last dream with the clone Shepard... I get the serious creeps everytime I see Shepard's evil smile. To be honest, first time I saw it I expected to go Shepard full Saren afterwards, probably giving in to his dark site or something like that. What if that clone Shepard is kind of a symbol for Harbinger/the Reapers - and the evil smile is to indicate that now Shepard is fully indoctrinated, that it finally worked?


Heeey, you can see it too? When I first watched that scene it was obvious my Shep was smirking at me but I can't see it in the vids online, but I wasn't sure if that's just cos I'm not used to maleSheps face.


Hai guys.

Posted Image


Eyes.....


Yeah, what's goin on there? Is that renegade eyes or indoc eyes? (and have we established a difference, or come up with a reason why Shep would get renegade eyes in the blue and green endings?)


Weirdly close to this

http://femshep.ning....d-rannoch-smile 

EDIT - seems to be a fairly standard pic for femshep (for some reason). Every other renegade I've seen has red eyes, so I'm inclined to believe it's a mod)


They used Gibs save game editor to give their shep TIM's eyes.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

@bigg13

8've got it, used it..didn't like it. recoils crazy. but i am a bit biased towards the mattock since me2 so it's probably not a good idea to take my word for it


I do love that Mattock.


Amen brothers. Mattock and falcon are the only AR's that even exist on MP as far as I'm concerned. Revenant isn't bad if you're the exact right build for it (turian soldier) but otherwise meh.

Back to MP after this post I guess... let's see how many games I can go in a row with some douchebag quitting halfway through and leaving us crippled on the later waves! I'm upto 4 at the moment I think. ... Okay, I'll stop (female mabari)ing now.

Ravel1992 wrote...

Anyone remember S.T.A.L.K.E.R.? At the end you also had some choices and not all of them was "happy ending". To be honest only if you chose "destroy"(sounds similar?) you had more gameplay and chance to completed your mission. I found this interesting how it is similar to (if IT correct) ME3 ending.


ME3's ending (if not IT) reminds me a lot of Xenosaga's. All of a sudden we went from sci-fi to religion and the ending features the destruction of basic means of long distance travel. Though it was even worse in Xeno, since they completely lost FTL. At least ME left civilization with standard FTL, even if you can't make a quick hop across the Milky Way. Also, both the explanation for the gnosis and the reapers was incredibly, incredibly retarded.

Uncle Jo wrote...

I absolutely agree with you on the PTSD. But remember that most of the people don't have such a good knowledge about it like you do. Besides they maybe don't think that far. They probably assume that he's just having nightmares, like we all do sometimes, when something is "bothering" us in real life (Sheps are a little bit worse though)...
Anyways like I said, it could be an argument for both of IT and anti-IT (I don't like too much this word, I may not believe in it but I still respect it and find it very coherent in itself)...


I don't have much knowledge of it. I just googled it and spent 5 minutes reading before I commented on it, which is what those guys should have done too. :)

MarkasLin wrote...

On further refelection it seems the PTSD suffering soldier is there, in order to explicitly state that Shep isn't experiencing PTSD, but indoctrination.


Also to let us know the fate of Joker's family.

... I'd have rather not known. :(

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 [quote]estebanus wrote...

[quote]SS2Dante wrote...

[quote]Rifneno wrote...

[quote]Gorkan86 wrote...

How do you know for sure? 
Prothean checked VI in peoples indoctrinated in varying degrees. They were advanced civilization, so should consider such things.
[/quote]

OH JESUS, NOT THIS CRAP AGAIN! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]
[/quote]

THE CYCLE REPEATS FOREVER.

[/quote] 

THE CYCLE CAN'T BE BROKEN.

[/quote]

Yeah, well I'm breaking it! Because I have a manly, sexy deep voice and and am good with firearms. Therefore going by Shepard, I have all the qualifications. 

[quote]Skillz1986 wrote...

@gorkan86

Thinking of it, you're the real life conrad verner.[/quote]

Ooh, no need to be that harsh.

[quote]UrgentArchengel wrote...
If I learned anything from Monty Python, it would be to be weary of rabbits.
[/quote] 

Yes, I've learned to be tired of rabbits too.

[quote]Macgummi wrote...

"When you make an important decision in mass effect (anything that the game needs to know about from your saves) it adjusts the value of a "flag" in the save game file. (either 0 or 1). However, looking at the deconstructed code from the saves, only END001, the destroy ending, actually sets any flags. However, if the game was really intended to end after the end credits, why would they bother setting a save game flag when there's no more gameplay?" 

Just saw that comment on youtube... Has that been discussed yet?[/quote]  

To death and back.

[quote]Legion109 wrote...

Does anyone else find it hilarious how Vega is following Shep and Anderson at the beginning, the way he crosses his arms when the stop to talk makes him look like he's trying to hide the fact he is following them (yeah I know he was supposed to walk with them but he still looks so out of place the way he walks and stops that I can't stop laughing).[/quote] 


Well he is kind of intentionally the odd man out, and all in all Vega is just a LT. So really he wouldn't be brought in on the high level stuff.

[quote]Skillz1986 wrote...

What's the damn robo dog for? [/quote] 


It's a pet in the vein of the spess hamstah.

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

[quote]SS2Dante wrote...

Hey guys, just had a thought. You know the "other Shepard" in your last dream? (you know, the dream right after Shepard is staring at the N7 helmet and says that "they thought they heard it crack"during that last fight?) The Shepard that embraces the child?

...think that was the birth of the TIM part of Sheps mind?

EDIT - actually, this is just after Thessia, right? If so this is clearly the traumatic event that unhinges this part of Shepards psyche.


[/quote]Good observation... I also noticed it and found it weird. I thought Shep is really going nuts...
I'm still  not the IT-believer, but this will make me think about it a little more...

Glad to hear the exam didn't suffer too much from the time passed on this thread :D... and hope you'll succeed.

[/quote] 


I like this, and in the event you aren't a beleiver, check out this post;

http://social.biowar...3/1678#11619834 

I think you'll be converted.

[quote]Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote... 
Actually there is that one kid on the Citadel talking to a Turian C-Sec officer about how she is waiting for her parents. While not as young as the Starbrat kid, she is definetly not adult either...also regarding that it is one of my favorite of those small plotlines running throughout the Citadel and the Normandy. 

The way the kid becomes more and more worried about her parents not showing up and the Turian keeping an eye on her and talking to her is just another of those small parts that really stuck. 

[/quote] 

I love this one, it was just heartwrenching. I kept expecting to hear the Turian offer to adopt her.

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[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

-wall of text-[/quote]

*stares blankly*

...

I should go.

(But no, really, it's pretty good. I'm only up to the 3rd chapter, but it's good so far.) [/quote]

What do you expect from a novelist? 

[quote]SS2Dante wrote...

[quote]DJBare wrote...

You know what's occurred to me, even discounting IT this game is unfinished, if you chose the destroy ending with high EMS you get a single breath from?, we only see an N7 dog tag, the armor is not exactly unique, there are absolutely no answers just a boatload of questions.[/quote]

Initially some wondered if the N7 agent was even Shepard, but we quickly realised the most obvious clue that it was indeed Shep. The fact that it doesn't show the face.

[/quote] 

Considering the file is entitled "ShepAlive" in the game files, yeah, there is no debate, it's Shepard.

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[quote]bigstig wrote...

[quote]n00bsauce2010 wrote...

[quote]Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Also, about the child. Is there any kind of logic in the beginning of the game?

So, he's in that vent. Okay. Shep comes up and wants to help him. Now, aside from the fact that every normal kid would JUMP at an offer like that, he goes deeper into the vent. Okay. Then later, we see him at the shuttles, at which point I have to say: what? I mean.. did he sit in that vent for a while, wait until Shepard had left, then decided "ok this sucks f*ck it", crawl out of the vent, take a different path than Shepard (because you don't see him on the way) and SURVIVE this as an UNARMED KID?[/quote]

The kid is simply not real.

Indoctrination or not... the kid does not exist. Possibly in the first scene when hes playing on that highrise.. but even that is a stretch for me.

Why? Because no one besides shepard interacts with him.

The vent noise that leads shepard to the vent where the boy is.. but when the child suddenly disappears we don't hear the same movement sound. And the growl.. which is heard through all sound channels.. different from the reaper in the background which can only be heard through a few sound channels. (surround sound)

If you notice when the child is near the shuttles at the end - no one acknowledges or interacts with the child.. but the soldiers sure as hell don't mind helping up injured civillians into the shuttle. There is also another lone soldier standing inside the shuttle doing nothing.

[/quote]

Also the childs design is unique, no other person is dressed in a similar fashion(including the civilians) even the artbook acknowledges this, - paraphrasing this from memory:

We designed the boy to look like something that wouldn't be out of place today..

- Again just paraphrasing from memory so don't quote me, the important thing to note is that the boy is wearing slightly updated current clothing as they wanted to use him to connect with the player as well as with Shepard in game. 
[/quote]

And I think it is also very siginificant, that he is the only child in the whole game series. So if they only wanted to show us the suffer of people, why not also add Asari children and other children in gemeral on the citadel.. you allways the families that fled on the citadel, but never you see any children.

[/quote] 

I love this little detail.

[quote]Domanese wrote...
Off Topic - Yeah I would have actually liked the Exalted March DLC. It sounded awesome![/quote] 

No worries, they're folding parts of it into DA3, so we need only wait. I kind of hope they bring back origins ( you know, just have us choose; ok, we like this voice set, we like this race... ect,)

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


Perhaps we can have the It-ers, the Sceptics, and the anti-It-ers :P

Yeah :D Count me in the second one... Although it sucks a little... It sounds to me like, the green/synthesis/all-will-be-happy husks ending...


thats what they want you to think.....


edit: did I misread your post? lol....  

Sorry I didn't understand your point. I was just saying green ending sucks (the other 2 ones too, proven the IT is not true).

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Arian Dynas wrote...

 No worries, they're folding parts of it into DA3, so we need only wait. I kind of hope they bring back origins ( you know, just have us choose; ok, we like this voice set, we like this race... ect,)


After my disappointment with DA2 I didnt really pay much attention to any DA related news. Do we know if DA3 is going to be following Hawke again, going back to the Warden-Commander, or an entirely new character?

I kinda wanna play as my Warden again. I miss my crazy casteless dwarf with Jack's voice. She was the best.

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byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

 No worries, they're folding parts of it into DA3, so we need only wait. I kind of hope they bring back origins ( you know, just have us choose; ok, we like this voice set, we like this race... ect,)


After my disappointment with DA2 I didnt really pay much attention to any DA related news. Do we know if DA3 is going to be following Hawke again, going back to the Warden-Commander, or an entirely new character?

I kinda wanna play as my Warden again. I miss my crazy casteless dwarf with Jack's voice. She was the best.


Entirely new character.
I'd love a game set in Tevinter. They could even have origins again, like, are you the elven warrior who just escaped slavery or the human noble mage who owned him?

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Uncle Jo wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...


Perhaps we can have the It-ers, the Sceptics, and the anti-It-ers :P

Yeah :D Count me in the second one... Although it sucks a little... It sounds to me like, the green/synthesis/all-will-be-happy husks ending...


thats what they want you to think.....


edit: did I misread your post? lol....  

Sorry I didn't understand your point. I was just saying green ending sucks (the other 2 ones too, proven the IT is not true).



thats odd.... I didnt get 2 other endings... just the same one with different colors.

....old joke but still fun.  

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

 No worries, they're folding parts of it into DA3, so we need only wait. I kind of hope they bring back origins ( you know, just have us choose; ok, we like this voice set, we like this race... ect,)


After my disappointment with DA2 I didnt really pay much attention to any DA related news. Do we know if DA3 is going to be following Hawke again, going back to the Warden-Commander, or an entirely new character?

I kinda wanna play as my Warden again. I miss my crazy casteless dwarf with Jack's voice. She was the best.


Entirely new character.
I'd love a game set in Tevinter. They could even have origins again, like, are you the elven warrior who just escaped slavery or the human noble mage who owned him?


Bah, yet another new character? That was like the worst out of those three options I listed. :unsure:

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You want to know what happens if you choose Synthesis? Go to 3:00



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Hmm this is annoying me am I the only one who thinks the whole take back London priority reminds them of Half Life 2?

Edit: About the DA3 thing I love my Hawke but I can live with a new character as long they have Fenris and Varric in it OH and make Varric romancable like he was originally going to be.

Modifié par Rosewind, 23 avril 2012 - 05:37 .