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[Uncle Jo]

FreedMason wrote...

I hate to beat a dead horse if it has already been done, however, does anyone have a brief summary on how a cinematic-only ending shall work with the theory? Or a link to it?

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1313#11127624   it's from Arian Dynas

[Macross]

waldstr18 wrote...

ive been asked to drop it, so i guess you have to live without a response.

waldstr, whether intentional or not you are being an instigator. If you've dropped it then leave it be. If you aren't going to try to have a proper articult discussion with us then leave the thread and don't come back until you do have something to discuss.

Don't post empty posts, it doesn't help anyone, lease of all you. IF you have nothing to say or add then don't say anything.

Modifié par Macross, 24 avril 2012 - 02:29 .

[waldstr18]

waldstr18 wrote...

without waking the troll hunters; are you still believing in the theory?

i just read http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/ which is about 2 weeks old. there are statements like:

the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard’s journey.

BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences.

if there is no new gameplay, just cutscenes, doesnt that proof that the ending is the ending and no hallucination or are you now saying that mass effect gets no ending just the indoctrination?

sorry, seems i just cant leave it be.

now tell me, what was wrong with that post? thats the one i came in here with today.

[Arian Dynas]

FreedMason wrote...

I hate to beat a dead horse if it has already been done, however, does anyone have a brief summary on how a cinematic-only ending shall work with the theory? Or a link to it?

*coughs and points at his signature*

Uncle Jo wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I've just read your cutscenes about how can the DLC can confirm the IT without any new gameplay. Well... Hell of a work. Very well written. It makes the green ending also looks good
I just have one simple question (maybe you were already asked, I didn't find your answer though): who opened the arms of the citadel (considering you had enough EMS to protect the Crucible) ? We already know it's not Shep. 

If anybody else already knows the answer, please feel free to give it.

 

Thank you for the compliment. I appreciate them. To be honest, I had written that before I had REACHED the ending (I had already seen it by this point. it sucked enough at the time, I thought that I wasn't losing anything by spoiling it) but you may notice, in my script, the Crucible never even docked. More than likely, I'd have to go back and edit this, but as it stands, the Reapers just see the thing, see it completed and hightail it. More than likely, it needs re-writing.

[Simon_Says]

All of you. Drop it.

I hereby declare that anyone, ANYONE who tries to get the last word in now is officially going to be a dingus.

[Uncle Jo]

Arian Dynas wrote...


Thank you for the compliment. I appreciate them. To be honest, I had written that before I had REACHED the ending (I had already seen it by this point. it sucked enough at the time, I thought that I wasn't losing anything by spoiling it) but you may notice, in my script, the Crucible never even docked. More than likely, I'd have to go back and edit this, but as it stands, the Reapers just see the thing, see it completed and hightail it. More than likely, it needs re-writing.

All right! Now I understand. Thanks for the answer!

[FreedMason]

Uncle Jo wrote...

FreedMason wrote...

I hate to beat a dead horse if it has already been done, however, does anyone have a brief summary on how a cinematic-only ending shall work with the theory? Or a link to it?

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1313#11127624   it's from Arian Dynas

Thank you both, this helps out alot!

[Auralius Carolus]

[Arian Dynas]

Simon_Says wrote...

All of you. Drop it.

I hereby declare that anyone, ANYONE who tries to get the last word in now is officially going to be a dingus.

Here, have a Dingus staff, and a Dingus Egg.

Uncle Jo wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


Thank you for the compliment. I appreciate them. To be honest, I had written that before I had REACHED the ending (I had already seen it by this point. it sucked enough at the time, I thought that I wasn't losing anything by spoiling it) but you may notice, in my script, the Crucible never even docked. More than likely, I'd have to go back and edit this, but as it stands, the Reapers just see the thing, see it completed and hightail it. More than likely, it needs re-writing.

All right! Now I understand. Thanks for the answer!

 

Though it DID just occur to me, that when I do a re-write, well.. they DID imply that the people inside the Citadel are still alive and fighting... time for Armando Bailey to step up.

[Simon_Says]

Auralius Carolus wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...
Sorry. Definately does not sound even similar to my ears.

But the dream noises definately do suggest indoc.

The pure clip is at full magnification. When you run the tracks together are rhythmatic and pitch parallels.

The audio spikes aren't as profound, but they're still synchronized.

Yeah. Now I can see what you're talking about, but I'm still sceptical. If ever there was a place where Bioware could simply reuse assets, it's when Shepard gets knocked by an explosion and loses hearing for a moment.

I say it's a very short straw, but since we're hoarding them wholesale anyway...

[Macross]

waldstr18 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

without waking the troll hunters; are you still believing in the theory?

i just read http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/ which is about 2 weeks old. there are statements like:

the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard’s journey.

BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences.

if there is no new gameplay, just cutscenes, doesnt that proof that the ending is the ending and no hallucination or are you now saying that mass effect gets no ending just the indoctrination?

sorry, seems i just cant leave it be.

now tell me, what was wrong with that post? thats the one i came in here with today.

But something like that has been brought up countlessly and we've always had the same reaction. Until Bioware come out an explictily say that indoc is bull**** then we ain't going to believe it (for all we know EC may just be a way to subtily ad indoctriantion thoery based content, until it's out or a developer comes out and shows us what it is in detail, many of us won't let Indoc go).

This isn't something you can convince us against. Instead use ingame evidence to convince us or discuss with us, it's more fun than simply restating previouse arguements many of us already consider irrelevant.

Hatefilld arguements are only fun when one side is a moron, you nor we are morons.

[Simon_Says]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Simon_Says wrote...

All of you. Drop it.

I hereby declare that anyone, ANYONE who tries to get the last word in now is officially going to be a dingus.

Here, have a Dingus staff, and a Dingus Egg.

Fair enough. Where's the dingus corner for me to sit?

[waldstr18]

where is the hate? show me, please.

[OhDihBot]

 All I will say is that if Bioware doesn't go with the Indoctrination Theory (or something equally as compelling and explicative of the current horrible ending) and give us a "real ending" -- which, at the moment, I am expecting it to do -- I will not play another Bioware game until they officially announce KotOR III.

DA2 was strike one, TOR was (a HUGE) strike two, and if they leave ME3 -- the conclusion to one of the greatest Sci-Fi stories ever told in any medium -- with the current ending, that will be strike three.  

Modifié par OhDihBot, 24 avril 2012 - 02:38 .

[lex0r11]

I'm sorry Simon, but i will not stop asking him questions because it might be the courteous thing to do.

And as i said Waldstr, you have build your reputation here and you play at it even in that one sentence you started with. Trollhunters? That's okay. Following it with a rethorical question you asked before? Yeah. You STILL believe in it? Hur. You really need to check up on people in here if they all packed up and left so you can plant four flag in here or something?

I'm sorry if i see more than others in these words but i've been known to read people really well. Especially when i get to hear/read more of them.

Modifié par lex0r11, 24 avril 2012 - 02:40 .

[waldstr18]

OhDihBot wrote...

 All I will say is that if Bioware doesn't go with the Indoctrination Theory and give us a "real ending" -- which, at the moment, I am expecting it to do -- I will not play another Bioware game until they officially announce KotOR III.

DA2 was strike one, TOR was (a HUGE) strike two, and if they leave ME3 -- the conclusion to one of the greatest Sci-Fi stories ever told in any medium -- with the current ending, that will be strike three.  

thats your decission of course. i havent played da2 or tor, but what i can say for the mass effect games, i enjoyed all 3 of them. the 3rd even more than the second. they gonna extend the ending cutscenes in summer, thats all i wanted in the first place. if the ending was that terrible for you, think about how awesome it was getting there.

[Uncle Jo]

Arian Dynas wrote...



Though it DID just occur to me, that when I do a re-write, well.. they DID imply that the people inside the Citadel are still alive and fighting... time for Armando Bailey to step up.

Do they know anyhing about the activation panel ? An infiltration mission in the Citadel could have been cool IMO

[Macross]

waldstr18 wrote...

where is the hate? show me, please.

Well, you and Arian aren't exactily married are you? But no, you're right hate was the wrong word. Rather you're and some others in this threads arguement for the sake of argueing is getting old.

The simple fact that you are asking me to prove non-Indoc releated stuff in this thread is proof of that.

There is an old saying in my family. If you have nothing to add to the silence, then don't add anything.

If you aren't going to discuss indoc with us and just antognise everyone, then there is little point to you being in this thread. There are other threads you can do it in.

[byne]

waldstr18 wrote...

OhDihBot wrote...

 All I will say is that if Bioware doesn't go with the Indoctrination Theory and give us a "real ending" -- which, at the moment, I am expecting it to do -- I will not play another Bioware game until they officially announce KotOR III.

DA2 was strike one, TOR was (a HUGE) strike two, and if they leave ME3 -- the conclusion to one of the greatest Sci-Fi stories ever told in any medium -- with the current ending, that will be strike three.  

thats your decission of course. i havent played da2 or tor, but what i can say for the mass effect games, i enjoyed all 3 of them. the 3rd even more than the second. they gonna extend the ending cutscenes in summer, thats all i wanted in the first place. if the ending was that terrible for you, think about how awesome it was getting there.

Dear god. Thats the one thing that annoys me the most by far.

"The journey was so great, lets just forget how horrible the destination was!"

No. Thats ridiculous.

Its like if I was travelling to Disneyland, and had fun along the way, but when I got to my destination, not only was it not Disneyland, it was a North Korean prison.

If Kim Jong Un came in and was like "BUT DIDNT YOU HAVE TONS OF FUN GETTING HERE? WHY FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOW A PRISONER?" you'd call him a jackass.

[waldstr18]

lex0r11 wrote...

I'm sorry Simon, but i will not stop asking him questions because it might be the courteous thing to do.

And as i said Waldstr, you have build your reputation here and you play at it even in that one sentence you started with. Trollhunters? That's okay. Following it with a rethorical question you asked before? Yeah. You STILL believe in it? Hur. You really need to check up on people in here if they all packed up and left so you can plant four flag in here or something?

I'm sorry if i see more than others in these words but i've been known to read people really well. Especially when i get to hear/read more of them.

no flag planting. i actually want you to believe. who am i going to tell "in your face" if none of you are left in summer? and the reason why i ask: it could be that the whole thing has been disproven, you dont accept that, and go on making the indoctrination theory fan fiction or something like that.

as for your reading skills. im not impressed. i know my intentions pretty well and usually they are "get information, get out". especially in here. i hate forum thread communication. im more of a real time chatter. is there an indoctrination irc channel by the way?

[waldstr18]

byne wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

OhDihBot wrote...

 All I will say is that if Bioware doesn't go with the Indoctrination Theory and give us a "real ending" -- which, at the moment, I am expecting it to do -- I will not play another Bioware game until they officially announce KotOR III.

DA2 was strike one, TOR was (a HUGE) strike two, and if they leave ME3 -- the conclusion to one of the greatest Sci-Fi stories ever told in any medium -- with the current ending, that will be strike three.  

thats your decission of course. i havent played da2 or tor, but what i can say for the mass effect games, i enjoyed all 3 of them. the 3rd even more than the second. they gonna extend the ending cutscenes in summer, thats all i wanted in the first place. if the ending was that terrible for you, think about how awesome it was getting there.

Dear god. Thats the one thing that annoys me the most by far.

"The journey was so great, lets just forget how horrible the destination was!"

No. Thats ridiculous.

Its like if I was travelling to Disneyland, and had fun along the way, but when I got to my destination, not only was it not Disneyland, it was a North Korean prison.

If Kim Jong Un came in and was like "BUT DIDNT YOU HAVE TONS OF FUN GETTING HERE? WHY FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOW A PRISONER?" you'd call him a jackass.

no reason to bite my head off.

[UrgedDuke]

yo guys droppin in. I have a short discussion I wanted to start

[Arian Dynas]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...



Though it DID just occur to me, that when I do a re-write, well.. they DID imply that the people inside the Citadel are still alive and fighting... time for Armando Bailey to step up.

Do they know anyhing about the activation panel ? An infiltration mission in the Citadel could have been cool IMO

Well, the ACTUAL activation panel, you know the one that actually exists that we have seen in a previous game happens to be in the council chambers. So yeah, getting to it would be hell.

[byne]

waldstr18 wrote...

byne wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

OhDihBot wrote...

 All I will say is that if Bioware doesn't go with the Indoctrination Theory and give us a "real ending" -- which, at the moment, I am expecting it to do -- I will not play another Bioware game until they officially announce KotOR III.

DA2 was strike one, TOR was (a HUGE) strike two, and if they leave ME3 -- the conclusion to one of the greatest Sci-Fi stories ever told in any medium -- with the current ending, that will be strike three.  

thats your decission of course. i havent played da2 or tor, but what i can say for the mass effect games, i enjoyed all 3 of them. the 3rd even more than the second. they gonna extend the ending cutscenes in summer, thats all i wanted in the first place. if the ending was that terrible for you, think about how awesome it was getting there.

Dear god. Thats the one thing that annoys me the most by far.

"The journey was so great, lets just forget how horrible the destination was!"

No. Thats ridiculous.

Its like if I was travelling to Disneyland, and had fun along the way, but when I got to my destination, not only was it not Disneyland, it was a North Korean prison.

If Kim Jong Un came in and was like "BUT DIDNT YOU HAVE TONS OF FUN GETTING HERE? WHY FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOW A PRISONER?" you'd call him a jackass.

no reason to bite my head off.

Well, I wasnt specifically biting your head off, you just had the misfortune to be the person to say it. I've seen so many people claim the journey excuses the destination that I just really hate seeing that argument pop up.

[Simon_Says]

byne wrote...
Dear god. Thats the one thing that annoys me the most by far.

"The journey was so great, lets just forget how horrible the destination was!"

No. Thats ridiculous.

Its like if I was travelling to Disneyland, and had fun along the way, but when I got to my destination, not only was it not Disneyland, it was a North Korean prison.

If Kim Jong Un came in and was like "BUT DIDNT YOU HAVE TONS OF FUN GETTING HERE? WHY FOCUS ON THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOW A PRISONER?" you'd call him a jackass.

Actually if he said that you'd likely have been forced to agree and even smile.

Here in the free world* we're allowed to **** about things we don't like.

*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...